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twocentsworth![]() |
Paul, Jack, Malcolm, Victor... |
Snizzle![]() |
I dont see Jack or Paul being a deadbeat....they just dont have the s/l's with those children yet...but Jack and Paul do mention phone calls every now and then to Ricky and Kyle. |
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Quote Snizzle: I dont see Jack or Paul being a deadbeat....they just dont have the s/l's with those children yet...but Jack and Paul do mention phone calls every now and then to Ricky and Kyle. Lily has a dad..Neil.. Victor..sure he is a cold sob at times but i don't see him as a deadbeat.. I can understand your point, but I just don't feel a phone call every now and then is the same as someone around at times to do special things together or financially help out with education or needs of the child...I know this is a soap and storylines are not always shown, but we probably assume they are keeping in touch...but look at what happened to Adam and to Heather when this was NOT the case...and maybe the DBD term is a harsh one, but there isn't another one that fits when they choose to remain aloof in the upbringing of the children they bring into the world and leave it all up to the mom's in all respects, emotionally, physically, monitarily, spiritually...in all regards the dads are lacking in integrity when this happens, in my opinion. I know there are other opinions out there and that's fine. |
Eppy![]() |
I think as a viewer we must presume that Jack (who loves Kyle), and Paul, who feels Ricky is better off in a loving grandparent household take very good care and are very concerned about their son's welfare. Just because Kyle and Ricky are not current characters on the show, is no reason to think they are gone and forgotten by their fathers. |
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Quote Eppy: I think as a viewer we must presume that Jack (who loves Kyle), and Paul, who feels Ricky is better off in a loving grandparent household take very good care and are very concerned about their son's welfare. Just because Kyle and Ricky are not current characters on the show, is no reason to think they are gone and forgotten by their fathers. Until they (Kyle and Ricky) both show up in Genoa City a few years from now all "soap-aged" with revenge on their minds for their fathers...we'll just have to wait and see those storylines played out in the future... |
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Quote twocentsworth: Time will tell!
Quote Eppy: I think as a viewer we must presume that Jack (who loves Kyle), and Paul, who feels Ricky is better off in a loving grandparent household take very good care and are very concerned about their son's welfare. Just because Kyle and Ricky are not current characters on the show, is no reason to think they are gone and forgotten by their fathers. Until they (Kyle and Ricky) both show up in Genoa City a few years from now all "soap-aged" with revenge on their minds for their fathers...we'll just have to wait and see those storylines played out in the future... |
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Quote twocentsworth: Quote Snizzle: I dont see Jack or Paul being a deadbeat....they just dont have the s/l's with those children yet...but Jack and Paul do mention phone calls every now and then to Ricky and Kyle. Lily has a dad..Neil.. Victor..sure he is a cold sob at times but i don't see him as a deadbeat.. I can understand your point, but I just don't feel a phone call every now and then is the same as someone around at times to do special things together or financially help out with education or needs of the child...I know this is a soap and storylines are not always shown, but we probably assume they are keeping in touch...but look at what happened to Adam and to Heather when this was NOT the case...and maybe the DBD term is a harsh one, but there isn't another one that fits when they choose to remain aloof in the upbringing of the children they bring into the world and leave it all up to the mom's in all respects, emotionally, physically, monitarily, spiritually...in all regards the dads are lacking in integrity when this happens, in my opinion. I know there are other opinions out there and that's fine. Hope wanted it that way..victor was still there money wise..and he popped up at the ranch now and again...and adam was always outside or at camp....and Cliff was there before he died.. Jack gave Diane custody after all the drama with phyllis ..he takes care of kyle money wise and so does Paul...we all know why the gparents have Ricky...I would love to See Kyle back for sure and Diane...but for some reason..other characters keep comming back...but i dont see them as dead beats...it's just My opinion and u have yours..it's all good. |
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Quote twocentsworth: Quote Snizzle: I dont see Jack or Paul being a deadbeat....they just dont have the s/l's with those children yet...but Jack and Paul do mention phone calls every now and then to Ricky and Kyle. Lily has a dad..Neil.. Victor..sure he is a cold sob at times but i don't see him as a deadbeat.. I can understand your point, but I just don't feel a phone call every now and then is the same as someone around at times to do special things together or financially help out with education or needs of the child...I know this is a soap and storylines are not always shown, but we probably assume they are keeping in touch...but look at what happened to Adam and to Heather when this was NOT the case...and maybe the DBD term is a harsh one, but there isn't another one that fits when they choose to remain aloof in the upbringing of the children they bring into the world and leave it all up to the mom's in all respects, emotionally, physically, monitarily, spiritually...in all regards the dads are lacking in integrity when this happens, in my opinion. I know there are other opinions out there and that's fine. Children have obligations also, especially when they become adults. Maybe the writers need to develop s/l's indicating whether the children are in contact with their fathers. As for Adam, blame Hope for victor's absence in his life. |
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Victor was in Adam's life until Hope married Cliff. Cliff wanted to legally adopt Adam and raise him as his own. I don't remember if that came to pass or not. When Cliff died Hope told Victor she didn't want him in Adam's life. Hope should have told Adam when he was younger, he would have had a easier time adjusting to the fact. At 27 years old he has pretty much made up his mind about his father. |
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I'm afraid this will be an unpoplular response. |
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Quote Snizzle: I dont see Jack or Paul being a deadbeat....they just dont have the s/l's with those children yet...but Jack and Paul do mention phone calls every now and then to Ricky and Kyle. Lily has a dad..Neil.. Victor..sure he is a cold sob at times but i don't see him as a deadbeat.. Snizzle, ITA with everything. Victor had a ruff beginning but in his own way he really does try. He never turned his back on his kids for no reason, and certainly not as children. |
Beaubien![]() |
I forgot all about Jack's son Kyle. I remember Keemo and was disappointed when he left the show. I really liked the relationship between Jack and Keemo. |
Lilamoor![]() |
Unless these characters are written as deadbeat dads, they cannot be characterized that way. The writers make the scenes, give the lines etc. |
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Quote Lilamoor: Unless these characters are written as deadbeat dads, they cannot be characterized that way. The writers make the scenes, give the lines etc. Victor is more of a dead beat dad than any of them. Just for the fact they weren't involved in the life of their child/children seems to put them in that category...perhaps a less "harsh" term could be "absentee father"...after all, any man can be a "father", but an involved father is a true "dad"... |
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Quote Lilamoor: Unless these characters are written as deadbeat dads, they cannot be characterized that way. The writers make the scenes, give the lines etc. Victor is more of a dead beat dad than any of them. ita, excellent post. |
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