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Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!

Started by suzy22 at 2008/08/20 11:52AM
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#91   2008/08/20 07:02PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
xx_Jenn_xx
xx_Jenn_xx

Quote DudeBoyz: If Adam gets hammered by Victor, then I think that will be completely unfair.

Adam has known is father for 6 months, and that is all he has seen of him. What he saw was a very hardcore businessman who was more dedicated to his company and profits than his own family, aside from Sabrina.

Adam got nailed on one deal before and Victor let him have it.

So what was Adam supposed to do? He tried to step up and do what he thinks his father would want him to do as far as the business end of things. He remembers Victor saying to him that he would always be Victor Newman Junior to him. So he even reclaimed his full name, probably because he wanted to step up and make Victor proud.

Having Heather at the house is probably not a good thing, but maybe Adam felt it would be OK because of the Press Conference she gave indicating that it was David Chow who killed him and tried to frame both Jack AND Victor, and he also killed Skye.

Maybe he figured that Victor would not be as angry given that Heather was duped by the frame-up.

Regardless, What Victoria has been doing is in my way of thinking, unforgiveable. Conspiring to take control of the company, going against Victors own wishes to rename the product line, and going against Victors decision that he wanted Adam to live at the ranch with him.

She sabotages the work that Adam has been trying to do - work that he probably thought Victor would expect of him - and she kicks him out of the ranch.

What sort of makes me angry is that Neil is backing Victoria on the name change back to Beauty of Nature. He KNOWS that Victor gave that line to Adam to run and approved of the name change, yet he lets his frustration with Adam build to the point where he violates Victor Sr's trust? Man, not only did Neil pansy-out and not step up and take control as Victor may have wanted, but now he's undoing things that Victor Sr specifically put in motion.

Man, I don't get it. If Victor really does come back and put the smack down on Adam (Victor Jr) and treat Victoria and Neil like royalty, I'm going to stop watching the show for at least a few months, maybe longer.

I was very, very geeked about the new storyline with Victor and Adam and when Hope came back. I throught it was going to be a fantastic find for Victor. Hope makes them promise to get to know each other, and it turns out that Adam really is a chip off the old block. He has a prestigeous degree, is very focused on business and has a good track-record behind him in terms of employment.

Adam could have / should have become the son that Victor always wanted, the son that Nick could never and would never be, and I just cannot phathom why Victor would come back and treat Victoria, Neil and Nick with warmth and affection and leave Adam out in the cold.

All that would do is prove to me how lame these writers can get. Even when Nick was found to be alive, Victor still blamed him for contacting the feds and reporting malfeasance on Victors part. Victor FIRED the boy. Victor blamed Victoria heavily for shunning Sabrina the way she did. He said this was all unforgiveable.

So if he comes back and is all nice to Nikki, Victoria, Nick and makes Adam hit the bricks, to me, that means the show is NOT being true to its roots. All that anger and hatred Victor had for his other children and his Ex Wife suddenly goes away? The one child who has been loyal to him and tried to step up, who also lost someone very special to him by the same Mob tie-ins, who tried to make Victor proud by taking his full name and run the company in a way he thought his father would want him to, and the writers decide he is the one to be pushed aside?

Man, that would just totally suck and be very unfair, imo.



Very well said Dude...thatz pretty much everything ive said & than some..except i broke it down in a buncha smaller posts LOLOLOL...i so agree tho, if the writers go in that direction it will be a shame..and i may have to stop watching...i just have a hard time believing that Vic would even accept what those 3 (Neil, Nick & Victoria) have done....not just with kicking Adam off the Ranch..but the things they changed that they know dam well Vic would never approve of.......

#92   2008/08/20 07:06PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
aden85
aden85

Quote xx_Jenn_xx:
Quote DudeBoyz: If Adam gets hammered by Victor, then I think that will be completely unfair.

Adam has known is father for 6 months, and that is all he has seen of him. What he saw was a very hardcore businessman who was more dedicated to his company and profits than his own family, aside from Sabrina.

Adam got nailed on one deal before and Victor let him have it.

So what was Adam supposed to do? He tried to step up and do what he thinks his father would want him to do as far as the business end of things. He remembers Victor saying to him that he would always be Victor Newman Junior to him. So he even reclaimed his full name, probably because he wanted to step up and make Victor proud.

Having Heather at the house is probably not a good thing, but maybe Adam felt it would be OK because of the Press Conference she gave indicating that it was David Chow who killed him and tried to frame both Jack AND Victor, and he also killed Skye.

Maybe he figured that Victor would not be as angry given that Heather was duped by the frame-up.

Regardless, What Victoria has been doing is in my way of thinking, unforgiveable. Conspiring to take control of the company, going against Victors own wishes to rename the product line, and going against Victors decision that he wanted Adam to live at the ranch with him.

She sabotages the work that Adam has been trying to do - work that he probably thought Victor would expect of him - and she kicks him out of the ranch.

What sort of makes me angry is that Neil is backing Victoria on the name change back to Beauty of Nature. He KNOWS that Victor gave that line to Adam to run and approved of the name change, yet he lets his frustration with Adam build to the point where he violates Victor Sr's trust? Man, not only did Neil pansy-out and not step up and take control as Victor may have wanted, but now he's undoing things that Victor Sr specifically put in motion.

Man, I don't get it. If Victor really does come back and put the smack down on Adam (Victor Jr) and treat Victoria and Neil like royalty, I'm going to stop watching the show for at least a few months, maybe longer.

I was very, very geeked about the new storyline with Victor and Adam and when Hope came back. I throught it was going to be a fantastic find for Victor. Hope makes them promise to get to know each other, and it turns out that Adam really is a chip off the old block. He has a prestigeous degree, is very focused on business and has a good track-record behind him in terms of employment.

Adam could have / should have become the son that Victor always wanted, the son that Nick could never and would never be, and I just cannot phathom why Victor would come back and treat Victoria, Neil and Nick with warmth and affection and leave Adam out in the cold.

All that would do is prove to me how lame these writers can get. Even when Nick was found to be alive, Victor still blamed him for contacting the feds and reporting malfeasance on Victors part. Victor FIRED the boy. Victor blamed Victoria heavily for shunning Sabrina the way she did. He said this was all unforgiveable.

So if he comes back and is all nice to Nikki, Victoria, Nick and makes Adam hit the bricks, to me, that means the show is NOT being true to its roots. All that anger and hatred Victor had for his other children and his Ex Wife suddenly goes away? The one child who has been loyal to him and tried to step up, who also lost someone very special to him by the same Mob tie-ins, who tried to make Victor proud by taking his full name and run the company in a way he thought his father would want him to, and the writers decide he is the one to be pushed aside?

Man, that would just totally suck and be very unfair, imo.



Very well said Dude...thatz pretty much everything ive said & than some..except i broke it down in a buncha smaller posts LOLOLOL...i so agree tho, if the writers go in that direction it will be a shame..and i may have to stop watching...i just have a hard time believing that Vic would even accept what those 3 (Neil, Nick & Victoria) have done....not just with kicking Adam off the Ranch..but the things they changed that they know dam well Vic would never approve of.......


wow, nice....I second that to the fullest!

#93   2008/08/20 07:25PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
gommie
gommie

Quote bestlurker:
Quote gommie: Adam will be hurt, shocked and disappointed when Victor returns.

The implication being that it will have something to do with Newman-when the reality is - if he is experiencing those emotions-they could be caused by any number of reasons-that have nothing to do with Newman or Victors homecoming..........


We will know soon enough, I'm just speculating like everybody else. The way I read this one, Adam will be hurt, shocked and disappointed when Victor returns because he finally gained control of NE over Vicki. An ambitious guy like him would have to adjust knowing he will have to relinquish the reign back to Victor after tasting all that power.



Yeah that's what I am doing too..just speculating-but in a different direction..

#94   2008/08/20 07:28PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
gommie
gommie

Quote Lilamoor:
Quote bestlurker:
Quote gommie: Adam will be hurt, shocked and disappointed when Victor returns.

The implication being that it will have something to do with Newman-when the reality is - if he is experiencing those emotions-they could be caused by any number of reasons-that have nothing to do with Newman or Victors homecoming..........


We will know soon enough, I'm just speculating like everybody else. The way I read this one, Adam will be hurt, shocked and disappointed when Victor returns because he finally gained control of NE over Vicki. An ambitious guy like him would have to adjust knowing he will have to relinquish the reign back to Victor after tasting all that power.

Well if he is hurt, shocked and disappointed about having to relinquish control of Newman back to the great Newman himself, wouldn't that be pretty prsumptuous on his part. I can't quite imagine it... Adam... "but dad, I just wrested control from that grasping sister of mine, you know, your ungrateful daughter... I am shocked, hurt and disapointed that you would expect for me to just reliquish control of your own company like that. I thought you would just let me have control... for good ... while you go mourn Sabrina some more... like forever" I don't quite see even the arrogant Adam expecting that sceniro.




Yeah I think so -totally- that theory to me makes no sense..
not to me anyway........

#95   2008/08/20 08:11PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
SndrElkins
SndrElkins
moderator

Quote Kristi07: I'm not much of a fan of any of the Newman herd right now including Adam!! who is he to say what Victor will think or do when he returns! Victor changes his mind like he changes his underwear! That boy ain't the least bit concerned about anyone but himself!!


Yep,Adam only cares about Adam.He should have known better then to try to take on Victor.I'm sure his mommie told him just how Victor can be.Imma thinkin thats the main reason she never wanted Victor around !!!

#96   2008/08/20 08:13PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
gommie
gommie

Quote SndrElkins:
Quote Kristi07: I'm not much of a fan of any of the Newman herd right now including Adam!! who is he to say what Victor will think or do when he returns! Victor changes his mind like he changes his underwear! That boy ain't the least bit concerned about anyone but himself!!


Yep,Adam only cares about Adam.He should have known better then to try to take on Victor.I'm sure his mommie told him just how Victor can be.Imma thinkin thats the main reason she never wanted Victor around !!!



Uh explain to me please when he tried to take on Victor?
I missed that part-

#97   2008/08/20 08:15PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
SndrElkins
SndrElkins
moderator

Quote gommie:
Quote SndrElkins:
Quote Kristi07: I'm not much of a fan of any of the Newman herd right now including Adam!! who is he to say what Victor will think or do when he returns! Victor changes his mind like he changes his underwear! That boy ain't the least bit concerned about anyone but himself!!


Yep,Adam only cares about Adam.He should have known better then to try to take on Victor.I'm sure his mommie told him just how Victor can be.Imma thinkin thats the main reason she never wanted Victor around !!!



Uh explain to me please when he tried to take on Victor?
I missed that part-


Thats what he has been tryin to do alone.Adam just thinks he can come on in and take over.Victor will never let that happen.They don't call him ruthless for nothin.

#98   2008/08/20 08:16PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
Soulsistah
Soulsistah

Honestly, I don't think Adam has much of a leg to stand on. Forget for a second what Victoria and Nick are doing. Did Victor not specifically tell Adam he does not want Heather at the ranch? And yet, not only does VicAdam bring Heather there while Vic is MIA, but he tells Heather once the legalities are worked out, "you and I will move back to the ranch.". WTH?!!! Now he's telling her she can move in?!!

I'd call that trying to take Victor on by blatantly defying him.

#99   2008/08/20 10:43PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
gommie
gommie

Quote SndrElkins:
Quote gommie:
Quote SndrElkins:
Quote Kristi07: I'm not much of a fan of any of the Newman herd right now including Adam!! who is he to say what Victor will think or do when he returns! Victor changes his mind like he changes his underwear! That boy ain't the least bit concerned about anyone but himself!!


Yep,Adam only cares about Adam.He should have known better then to try to take on Victor.I'm sure his mommie told him just how Victor can be.Imma thinkin thats the main reason she never wanted Victor around !!!



Uh explain to me please when he tried to take on Victor?
I missed that part-


Thats what he has been tryin to do alone.Adam just thinks he can come on in and take over.Victor will never let that happen.They don't call him ruthless for nothin.



I don't think that at all- you mean it is just your opinion that he was coming in to kick Victor out and take over?
I think he was trying to keep Newman running smoothly in Victors absence...........

#100   2008/08/20 11:25PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
Jenjerale
Jenjerale

Victoria slapping Adam across the face was so disgusting, I can't stand Victoria and Nick. Both characters are boring and ungrateful. Adam and Sabrina were such refreshing charcters for Victor/Eric Braeden to work with. I am sure the rotten writers will ruin Adam's character and scrap him off of the canvas so we can have more Nikki time. I wish Victoria would have remained in the coma and Nick stayed lost in the woods, they add nothing to the show.

#101   2008/08/20 11:26PM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
florlopez
florlopez

If the Newman family would welcome Adam to the family they may be surprise, Adam maybe like one of them ungrateful and spoiler.....Adam has lost a lot too. His mother, His best friend and now this father. give Adam a break!!!

#102   2008/08/21 05:15AM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
sunbear07
sunbear07

Quote florlopez: If the Newman family would welcome Adam to the family they may be surprise, Adam maybe like one of them ungrateful and spoiler.....Adam has lost a lot too. His mother, His best friend and now this father. give Adam a break!!!


i agree with you .Adam has lost alot and he did'nt ask to come there. I dont under stand where they are coming from .he was lost when he came there and they did not like him and little miss vikk she hates that he is daddys boy to.

#103   2008/08/21 05:20AM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
Lilamoor
Lilamoor

I suppose Nick and Vikki should have just stepped out when Adam came into the picture. When big Daddy Victor introduced his son... bragging about the intelligence, the Harvard education, and Adam stood preening, and making the moves on Phylis, Nick and Adam should have said..."oh goody, daddy finally has the son/child he wanted all along.. yay for Daddy."

#104   2008/08/21 05:26AM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
cats meow
cats meow

excellent post lil, ITA

#105   2008/08/21 05:28AM
Re: Spoilers. Adam and Victor. I knew it!
Snizzle
Snizzle

Quote SndrElkins:
Quote gommie:
Quote SndrElkins:
Quote Kristi07: I'm not much of a fan of any of the Newman herd right now including Adam!! who is he to say what Victor will think or do when he returns! Victor changes his mind like he changes his underwear! That boy ain't the least bit concerned about anyone but himself!!


Yep,Adam only cares about Adam.He should have known better then to try to take on Victor.I'm sure his mommie told him just how Victor can be.Imma thinkin thats the main reason she never wanted Victor around !!!



Uh explain to me please when he tried to take on Victor?
I missed that part-


Thats what he has been tryin to do alone.Adam just thinks he can come on in and take over.Victor will never let that happen.They don't call him ruthless for nothin.


Exactly...and that's why Victor shot him down a couple of times and told him to slow his Row in that victor sort of way....hell it's all our opinions what we think of adam anyways....we all will see once it plays out, but I agree with ya....I still believe Victor will have a power struggle with Adam....and Adam will try to dethrone Victor.

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