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Hope Nick Comes Back a Stronger Person..may contain spoilers!

Started by ILuvNY at 2007/05/12 05:17AM
Latest post: 2007/05/19 03:39PM, Views: 3798, Replies: 86
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#51   2007/05/19 09:53AM
Re: Hope Nick Comes Back a Stronger Person..may contain spoilers!
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Quote tennislover: iluvny,

Agreed Phyllis wasn't Nick's first affair. Sharon said it perfectly that day in the NE breakroom when Nikki was ripping into Sharon about all the affairs she had. Sharon told Nikki no matter what she did it was never enough for Nick. In other words, Sharon couldn't make Nick happy. She did NOT "GET HIM". Which explains the affairs. When a man OR woman is not getting what they need at home, they stray. It's human nature. The smartest decision Nick and Sharon ever made together was to get a divorce, even if it was 8 years to late.


Well said!

#52   2007/05/19 09:56AM
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Quote CandyLane5:
Quote ILuvNY:
Quote tennislover: That's Victor, NOT Nick. Nick said he didn't want to be Victor Newman 2.0. He wants to be his own man, NOT just ride on his daddy's coattails.

Sharon was cheating on Nick long before Brad. Let's not forget Diego and Cameron. It would have been Victor too but Victor said NO!!


And Phyllis wasn't Nick's first affair...let's not forget Grace,Sharon's "friend", whom Nick cheated with on the night of his college graduation. And there were others, too.
I truly doubt that she would have slept with Victor! If you remember the scene, there was absolutely no indication that she was looking for sex!
In my opinion, Nick isn't his own man..he follows Phyllis around in a stupor and doesn't seem to have a thought of his own.



After Nick and Sharon get reunited... after this big mess he has made... guess what Grace is suppossed to come to town...


OH, NO! Will Nick be back at that time?

#53   2007/05/19 09:57AM
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Quote starrsctt: Grace returns with Nick's baby?(my opinion) it is getting ridiculous. Take Phyllis out, shoves Grace in? What is the point? Unless Grace is in with Nick's baby? Or Grace is in to team up with Phyllis to take Newman's down?


Wow, do you think that's the twist this whole thing will take? I'm expecting a whopper on this one!

#54   2007/05/19 09:58AM
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Quote jackspaniel:
Quote ILuvNY: In my opinion, this is a perfect opportunity for the writers to bring the old Nick back. Here's a man who saw the error of his father's ways and turned him into the authorities, but didn't even bat an eye over the fact that his wife blackmailed people, caused his mom to lose a seat at NE, started an arguement which caused Dru's demise and let Sharon take the fall for it when the pictures were revealed. I don't understand why the writers took a character who was strong enough morally to bring down his own father, but just looks the other way when his present wife has done so many people wrong...bring back the old, strong, moral Nick Newman!



Nick did not want his mother to have the seat on the board because he knew she would vote against the Clear Springs project. Phyllis did not let Sharon take the fall for the accident - she and Nick watched the video and Phyllis stated that it was an accident. He was not acceptant of the blackmail - but he loves Phyllis enough to forgive her for her wrong doings. Nick is more of a man now than he has ever been. I love his character now - he is much more happy and alive than he was in that disasterous marriage he was trapped in for 10 years - 5 infidelities between the two of them in 10 years tells the story!


Short and to the point! Agreed!

#55   2007/05/19 10:00AM
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Quote NotSoYButStillR: The important thing is he comes back. There's less dialogue between all the characters because the writing team likes action more than words, but just think in the old days you could miss the show for days and you wouldn't miss anything - not that way anymore. I like Nick just fine the way he is, especially in the last few days. I like his conversations with his sister, his parents, his wife and his ex-wife. I think Nick Newman has his head on his shoulders and is a good soul, how this happened with his parents is almost a miracle.


YOU ARE A GENIUS! Exactly how I feel.... I hope we get what we want and it's not some twisted plot out of the "Twilight Zone" that they throw our way... YIKES..

#56   2007/05/19 10:02AM
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Quote anadea:
Quote CandyLane5:
Quote ILuvNY: In my opinion, this is a perfect opportunity for the writers to bring the old Nick back. Here's a man who saw the error of his father's ways and turned him into the authorities, but didn't even bat an eye over the fact that his wife blackmailed people, caused his mom to lose a seat at NE, started an arguement which caused Dru's demise and let Sharon take the fall for it when the pictures were revealed. I don't understand why the writers took a character who was strong enough morally to bring down his own father, but just looks the other way when his present wife has done so many people wrong...bring back the old, strong, moral Nick Newman!



Phyllis even has Nick betraying his own mother


One should not conveniently overlook what his mother did to his wife on his wedding day. Talk about grounds for betrayal.....in spades. Nikki has turned into a reprehensible character - with none of the charm that her mentor, Victor, exerts. She has become ruthless - with no redeeming virtue, but self-interest. She deserves being betrayed - as you phrased it.


Nikki's cynical behavior is beginning to bore me and it doesn't complement in any way... if you know what I mean!

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#57   2007/05/19 10:04AM
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Quote anadea:
Quote CandyLane5:
Quote ILuvNY:
Quote tennislover: That's Victor, NOT Nick. Nick said he didn't want to be Victor Newman 2.0. He wants to be his own man, NOT just ride on his daddy's coattails.

Sharon was cheating on Nick long before Brad. Let's not forget Diego and Cameron. It would have been Victor too but Victor said NO!!


Ahem, excuse me, she said "when Nick and Sharon" reunite, which is definitely NOT going to happen, unless he comes back with amnesia, which is definitely possible in Y&R and their wild plots, even though I've been a sucker for their plots since 1974. Barb

And Phyllis wasn't Nick's first affair...let's not forget Grace,Sharon's "friend", whom Nick cheated with on the night of his college graduation. And there were others, too.
I truly doubt that she would have slept with Victor! If you remember the scene, there was absolutely no indication that she was looking for sex!
In my opinion, Nick isn't his own man..he follows Phyllis around in a stupor and doesn't seem to have a thought of his own.



After Nick and Sharon get reunited... after this big mess he has made... guess what Grace is suppossed to come to town...


I reject your premise.
You state as a fact something not in evidence....just wishful thinking..."when Nick and Phyllis reunite." That's like saying "when my ship comes in, I will do such and such." And, in my opinion, it has as much validity.

#58   2007/05/19 10:09AM
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Quote wowbabyits2007:
Quote jackspaniel:
Quote ILuvNY:
Quote jackspaniel:
Quote ILuvNY:
Quote tennislover: iluvny,

Agreed Phyllis wasn't Nick's first affair. Sharon said it perfectly that day in the NE breakroom when Nikki was ripping into Sharon about all the affairs she had. Sharon told Nikki no matter what she did it was never enough for Nick. In other words, Sharon couldn't make Nick happy. She did NOT "GET HIM". Which explains the affairs. When a man OR woman is not getting what they need at home, they stray. It's human nature. The smartest decision Nick and Sharon ever made together was to get a divorce, even if it was 8 years to late.


I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of whatever Sharon did not being "enough". He was in total despair and full of guilt for allowing Cassie to go out that night after she had been grounded. Phyllis seized upon the opportunity.Anyone who has lost someone tragically knows that sorrow can overtake you and skew your sense of judgement. I don't think it's "human nature" to "stray"...if that were true, the divorce rate would be much higher than it is!



The first four infidelities between this married couple did not involve the death of a child.........


I know that you've posted REPEATEDLY that there were5 infidelities in 10 years, but that has nothing to do with my post. I am writing about what happened as a result of Cassie's death.


I have posted "Repeatedly" that they have had 5 infidelities in 10 years because others have posted "repeatedly" what a fabulous couple Nick and Sharon were and how wonderful their marriage was and how they should be reunited. I am simply pointing out that the first four times they comitted adultery had nothing to do with the death of a child - it had to do with the loveless marriage they were trapped in and the fact that they were totally bored with each other. I think that to blame the end of their marriage on Cassie's death is unrealistic - this marriage was over long before Cassie died. The trust in this marriage died long before Cassie.




I've been watching for years and of course Soap writers will always write in lies, infidelities, blackmail, and even death. With that being said, who cares about what they've done to each other in the past...they still are in love!!! This indeed happens in life, and needs to continue happening in Soapland. People often think they are "not in love" anymore and soon realize the grass isn't greener on the other side! I think Nick and Sharon have more chemistry and even though she may not be as "exciting" as Phyllis, he loves her because she is a wonderful, caring mother and not to mention drop dead gorgeous. Just my opinion. Please writers, LET THEM FALL BACK IN LOVE...and make Nick have to CHASE her!!!


I think their [Sharon & Nick's} chemistry is dead... unless, like I said, he comes back with insomnia due to some traumatic head injury in the plane crash (just speculating, that's all I can do at this point). Who knows, we'll see. But I love Nick and Phyllis together.. They are much more exciting together, I believe.

#59   2007/05/19 10:13AM
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Quote mckenziejo:
Quote tennislover: One of the reasons Nick forgave Phyllis for the blackmail is because HE knows she did it for him so does Victor and Victor said so. Clear Springs was going to be co-headed by Nick and Phyllis. In addition, Nick told his mother Clear Springs was a chance to secure a future for his kids and win respect from his father. Phyllis tried to make that happen for her husband. That'a heck of a lot better than a wife who cheats on him and abandons him and her kids. Forgive Phyllis, you bet he did! After all Phyllis is NOT the one who slept with his sister's husband.


NO she slept with another woman's husband!!!


Sorry, but you have that backwards... the other woman's husband [Nicholas, THE MARRIED MAN] slept with her! His choice! I didn't see anyone put a gun to his head! He loved every minute of it and he proved it by marrying her. Nick loves Phyllis; if he comes back loving Sharon, it's because he suffered some type of trauma to his head and acquired amnesia... that would be the only reason. Barb.

#60   2007/05/19 10:15AM
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Quote BabygirlAH: I haven't been able to post much for the past couple of days. Does anyone know when Nick is coming back?


I hope it's very soon cuz I can't wait much longer! I wonder what kind of plot surrounds his return?

#61   2007/05/19 12:27PM
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We Shick fans dont want 'hot' 'spicey' etc.. we want a mature, adult relationship...

#62   2007/05/19 03:39PM
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Quote CandyLane5: We Shick fans dont want 'hot' 'spicey' etc.. we want a mature, adult relationship...


And I think we're going to get it

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