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Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?

Started by ski lady at 2009/11/06 08:04PM
Latest post: 2009/11/10 05:59PM, Views: 2787, Replies: 142
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#11   2009/11/07 08:28AM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
Moniker1979
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Hmmm...I honestly don't think she does. Yes, life (the WRITERS) has been much more cruel to Sharon with her losing her babies and her husband. But Sharon has been through hell and come out of it a stronger person (except for the whole Adam thing ), and now accepts what has happened to her and is moving on. I think she's been able to move on because she's found some sort of inner peace and acceptance.

BUT, Phyllis seems to be the type of person who even when she has what she wants can't be fully satisfied, because she doesn't believe she will keep it. She puts up a tough front, but underneath, she is extremely insecure. So there is never any peace or acceptance for Phyllis because she always thinks it's going to disappear (which she's admitted to Jack).

All the stunts she's pulled over the years, the manipulation, attempted murders, etc, etc, happened because of her insecurities. And I mean she's still manipulative, and she said just in the past year that she will do "anything" to keep what she has. A person secure in themselves would never say that.

#12   2009/11/07 11:03AM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
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That right Sue. Red ain't nothing but a bully and coward, she's always stealing what doesn't belong to her. Problem is she had to lie, manipulate and shame herself to continue to hold on to them (Nick). As a few others pointed out, the men in her life have never really wanted her for her, or for the long haul. It's just until something better comes along or until what they REALLY want returns the feelings. Then she's dropped on her kiester w/out a second look.

She's really quite a sad character. If she weren't so annoying and hateful though, I might feel sorry for her but I can't.

#13   2009/11/07 11:26AM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
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[quote]Quote ski lady: It would be nice to see Sharon come out on top, but it seems that the writers are using her character as a punching bag. Hasn't Sharon suffered enough already.[/quote]

I agree, Chatterbox. I just don't get what they've done with Sharon. And now, after her baby "loss" and therapy, she's supposed to be this newer, stronger person. So why hook her up with Awful Adam? It's terrible![/quote]

I agree with both Chatter box and Ski Lady: i also don't get what they are doing to Sharon?? After this therapy was suppose to be a new start for Sharon not to depend on anybody or be fooled so easy yet again by another man. SHe hardly knows Adam,but yet she has just completely let this young man come into her life. I don't understand, how one minute you can be sooo happy about having a new start, and yet be soo completely blind to not see somebody else for what they really are?? I did not get why Sharon would even want to be friends with Adam,and let alone be falling for his Nonsene.. This storyline to me is just plain RIDICULOUS,and that is just my thought on it..
I can not really stand to see Sharon & Adam together. I really wished that the writers would have just let Sharon stand on her own,and let her be the strong woman that some of her fans wanted to see.

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#14   2009/11/07 01:04PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
Gencor
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Phyllis has always been a smart woman! While she may know a little more about Adam than perhaps Sharon does, Sharon does know enough to be at least be smart enough to be suspicious of Adam. The answer to this question is really easy. Sharon is a "victim". That is her mentality, her focus. Phyllis is a survior. That is always her focus, her mentality.

#15   2009/11/07 01:13PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
countryMomof4
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Sharon is written as a" victim". Phyllis is written as a "victimizer".

#16   2009/11/07 01:22PM
Phylis is smarter than Sharon
lovelyinlave...
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For some reason the writers have decided to portray Phylis as very smart (sly as a fox) and they have portrayed Sharon as a victim-woman with weak judgement.
I sure would like to see Sharon making mature decisions and creating a healthier life for herself and Noah.

#17   2009/11/07 02:18PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
Gencor
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Quote Delilah127: That right Sue. Red ain't nothing but a bully and coward, she's always stealing what doesn't belong to her. Problem is she had to lie, manipulate and shame herself to continue to hold on to them (Nick). As a few others pointed out, the men in her life have never really wanted her for her, or for the long haul. It's just until something better comes along or until what they REALLY want returns the feelings. Then she's dropped on her kiester w/out a second look.

She's really quite a sad character. If she weren't so annoying and hateful though, I might feel sorry for her but I can't.


I have to disagree. Phyllis has many men who have loved her and like her. Danny apologized to her for taking her son from her. Paul saved her life and Michael is a lifelong friend. All of those men have had dealings with Phyllis, but they now call her friend. Jack is not the kind of man who is really anyone's friend but his own, but he is there for Phyllis and they understand each other. Lauren is her friend. Phyllis has men who are interested in her and love her. She has Nick and he will always love her. She has had her share of heartbreak and her share of bad times, but she is a survivor. She moves on. When the going gets tough for Phyllis, she knows how to toughen up. Phyllis is an independent woman. She loves Nick but she doesn't need Nick. She can survive without him. Phyllis has many dimensions to her personality. She is not plain vanilla. That is what makes her so fascinating. The one thing that I find so interesting, however, is how much she is talked about. She is the topic of every conversation on these boards. She is a fabulous character.

#18   2009/11/07 02:20PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
Gencor
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Quote countryMomof4: Sharon is written as a" victim". Phyllis is written as a "victimizer".


I thought about that, but Phyllis doesn't fit that character anymore. She is a survivor and after her marriage to Jack, she became a survivor. That is how she has been written since.

#19   2009/11/07 02:22PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
Memory24
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Quote Gencor:
Quote countryMomof4: Sharon is written as a" victim". Phyllis is written as a "victimizer".


I thought about that, but Phyllis doesn't fit that character anymore. She is a survivor and after her marriage to Jack, she became a survivor. That is how she has been written since.


How is she a survivor?

#20   2009/11/07 02:24PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
Gencor
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Quote Memory24:
Quote Gencor:
Quote countryMomof4: Sharon is written as a" victim". Phyllis is written as a "victimizer".


I thought about that, but Phyllis doesn't fit that character anymore. She is a survivor and after her marriage to Jack, she became a survivor. That is how she has been written since.


How is she a survivor?


How is she not?

#21   2009/11/07 02:27PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
suegerry
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Quote Memory24:
Quote Gencor:
Quote countryMomof4: Sharon is written as a" victim". Phyllis is written as a "victimizer".


I thought about that, but Phyllis doesn't fit that character anymore. She is a survivor and after her marriage to Jack, she became a survivor. That is how she has been written since.


How is she a survivor?


Could it be that she survives committing heinous crimes and don't get caught.....who knows....

#22   2009/11/07 02:29PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
adele
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Quote CHATTERBOX22:
Quote ski lady: The latest thing is Phyllis cutting Adam no slack and Sharon getting all sucked in by the creep. It seems like Phyllis always comes out "winning" or at least ahead of Sharon. Sharon is such a nice person and for once, I'd like to see her come out ahead of Phyllis. Especially in this case, when Adam is so awful.


It would be nice to see Sharon come out on top, but it seems that the writers are using her character as a punching bag. Hasn't Sharon suffered enough already.

writers are trying to sell phylis as saintly lately and it is not going to happen they are trying to show her in wedded bliss to make up for the outrageous pairing of phynck so they dump on sharon and phyli salways is on top because the writers favor her why else but no matter how the try to force this image of phylis on us it is not going to work sh ewill never be the beautiful person that sharon is phylis is out for phylis and be damned to every one else

#23   2009/11/07 02:30PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
countryMomof4
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How is she not you ask?

When Nick admitted that he slept with Sharon, Phyllis did NOT pick up her child and her pride and tell him to get lost. Phyllis begged him to stay and kept asking "What about ME? ( oh yeah and Summer ). She took him back after he came home with his tail between his legs. All it took for her to start giggling and hair twirling again, was a piece of jewellery.

#24   2009/11/07 02:33PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
adele
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Quote Memory24: Don't really think she has come out ahead of Sharon. I mean her husband the love of her life is in love with Sharon

She has to deal with a crazy Patty her son is always messing up.

Phyllis life really isn't that great and is definitely not better than Sharon's.

Nobody goes gaga over Phyllis or sniffs around her. She is the one following people around.

But I do get what you are saying. If Phyllis can see Adam is up to no good why can't Sharon? Well Phyllis has had a lot more practice. She can spot crazy because she knows it so well.

Another thing she is definitely not lucky in love. The one man who excepted her for who she really is. She cheats on him and leaves him high and dry. Danny didn't want her. She had to chase down Tim Reid and that other guy. Damon Porter went back to his wife. Shoot Michael didn't even want her he was too busy sniffing around Grace and Diane.


no one goes ga ga ove phylis because frankly we have watched her get away with every thing she has done and sharon who doesnn't intentionaly set out to hurt ends up getting trashed and dumped on time and again i guess red would be tolerable if she was with anyone but nick it just is too forced and boring to be real. he os with her because of his guilt over summer being sick and the sex is just a fringe benefit he is truly in love with sharon his soul mate for ever.

#25   2009/11/07 02:35PM
Re: Why does Phyllis always come out ahead of Sharon?
Gencor
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Quote countryMomof4: How is she not you ask?

When Nick admitted that he slept with Sharon, Phyllis did NOT pick up her child and her pride and tell him to get lost. Phyllis begged him to stay and kept asking "What about ME? ( oh yeah and Summer ). She took him back after he came home with his tail between his legs. All it took for her to start giggling and hair twirling again, was a piece of jewellery.


That is not about survival. Phyllis is a survivor. This isn't the example. This example is about a woman who has a very sick child and her husband who has asked her to wipe the slate clean and accept him back to her as her husband.

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