The Young and the Restless - MESSAGE BOARDS

Quote laurie6:

he insulted her dignity the way her father insulted colleens and victoria was all for it,she got what she deserved. go billy.

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PLENTY of women "real" and "reel" get drunk and make fools of themselves but DON'T FLASH their "girls" GONE WILD! COLLEEN INSULTED her own DIGNITY with her own actions. I always liked COLLEEN but she CAN'T blame someone else for showing her girls just like those stupid WOMEN/GIRLS who get drunk and end up on theose GIRLS GONE WILD VIDEOS! She was an adult and actions have consequecnces and YES I think what happened to her was HORRIBLE especially when DUMB & DUMBER took advantage and it went viral on the net! And yes, I felt so sorry for COLLEEN when she didn't get the job at the colege in the art department it would have been a PERFECT job for her with the qualifications that she had! VICTORIA insulted her family when she had the affair and she HITS BILLY? NOPE, not defending BILLY because all he did was contnue the ABBOTT/NEWMAN feud but ole VICK she just acted like she usually does, a SPOILED, ROTTEN CHILD! CHILDREN HIT when they don't get their way or don't like what someone says or does but an adult does not act this way! It was wrong for PHYLLIS and again it was wrong when VICTORIA slapped DANIEL and it still applies! I know I am in the minority here, but that is how I was raised and what I BELIEVE! Ole VICKIE is a smart girl she should use that floor/department of legal experts she has instead of hitting or slapping a man who won't hit her because he was taught never to hit a woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JMO!

Quote laurie6:

he insulted her dignity the way her father insulted colleens and victoria was all for it,she got what she deserved. go billy.

Quote laurie6:

I never said it was victoria's fault thet colleen did what she did but she was very willing to throw colleen to the dogs when she heard and considering everything victoria has done she should have shown more compassion,now billy is giving her a dose of her own medicine.

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The way I recall it was, TGVN is the one that made his employee (Victoria) get rid of Colleen. Victoria did show a little concern but as the employee did as she was instructed. As someone else posted--Nobody forced Colleen to show her Ta Tas. No one forced Victoria with Deacon--it is what it is. I am glad she punched the little annoying gnat.

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Then maybe that should have been left up to Colleen to settle the score with Victoria. Billy Abbot is a blow hard with nothing to back him up but smoke and mirrors. After today he won't even have a place to publish his new rag. It wasn't up to Billy Abbot to show his vengence and when you do what he has done, it would be too foolish not to know that someone is going to give a huge backlash. Billy Abbott has bitten off much more than he can chew, that is obvious, if they wipe their shoes on him, he should know going in what that is going to do to him. I don't blame Victoria one bit. I hope she decks him to the floor!

Quote flygirl1969:

But there would be no Patti in GC if not for Victor. She would not have gone pyscho in GC she would have been in Minneapolis minding her own crazy business. I know that there is plenty of blame for Victor and Jack as far as Ptti goes. Jack did say out loud how badly he treated Patti and that he was wrong and regretted it. That is what I like about Jack he owns his dirt. Victor never owns anything he even tried to put blame on Dr. Emily!

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Then maybe that should have been left up to Colleen to settle the score with Victoria. Billy Abbot is a blow hard with nothing to back him up but smoke and mirrors. After today he won't even have a place to publish his new rag. It wasn't up to Billy Abbot to show his vengence and when you do what he has done, it would be too foolish not to know that someone is going to give a huge backlash. Billy Abbott has bitten off much more than he can chew, that is obvious, if they wipe their shoes on him, he should know going in what that is going to do to him. I don't blame Victoria one bit. I hope she decks him to the floor!

Quote laurie6:

Colleen can't do anything she is dead and billy is taking on everyone who did her wrong.good for him.

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Well, if you want to consider the fact that Colleen took out after Victor to take her father's board seat when he died, we can start there. Colleen was being coached by her dear uncle Jack. She was, in fact, taking orders from her uncle Jack on how to screw Victor! It was uncle Jack that left Colleen to hang! Victor Newman knew what was going on and he wanted to be rid of her, I can't blame him for that! He wasn't going to let Jack use her to ruin him. Colleen got herself caught up in a world that she didn't belong in. Now, for stupid Billy to try and "avenge" Colleen is just stupid on its face because it was the man that helped him write this article that helped Colleen right into trouble with Victor Newman! Billy Abbott is a fool! What he has done is stupid and certainly Victoria has every right to knock his lights out, if she sees fit to do so! GOOOOO VICTORIA! And I don't even like Victoria Newman, but I am behind her on this one every step of the way!

Quote pdames4:

You tell em Flygirl!

I love both Victor and Jack and I believe Victor was right to want to extract revenge for the diary fiasco! However, I maintain that his tool of extraction(Patty) was wrong and unethical as well as inhumane. Jack may have used Patty over twenty years ago, but Victor brought all this misery down on his family and Colleen in the present..we're talking what took place in 2009, not 1985! Why can't people get that! It doesn't matter what his intent was, he was wrong to try to use an unstable woman whose family he knew. Victor is more at fault than anyone else. It completely boggles my mind that Jack is consistently hung out to dry while Victor gets free reign. As I said, I love Victor, but when he's wrong, he's dead wrong and I will admit it about him or any other character I like when they act treacherous.

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Let me say first of all I am NOT taking up for ole VIC just laying some things out. Second of all ole VIC & JACK BOTH need to share responsibility the most and for the most important reason and that is because REVENGE never works and it USUALLY backfires and INNOCENT PEOPLE GET HURT! That being said TGVN did NOT know that PATTYCAKES was as mentally unstable as she was when he concocted this scheme, he did however know that PATTYCAKES had once shot her husband 3 times! If you will remember it came up in conversation that ole VIC hired PATTYCAKES to keep an eye on ole smilin JACK at JABOT and report back to ole VIC> at the same time(after the diary fiasco)ole smilin JACK had placed COLLEEN on the board of directors at NE to cause VIC problems. Ole VIC wanted to continue the feud using business tit for tat. He went to the trouble of concocting a cover for her resume which fooled everyone and evidently she was doing a good job because that wasn't a problem until later. Now, ole VIC didn't know she was mentally unstable and neither did ANYONE around her until after she started sleeping with ole smilin JACK & became OBSSESSED again and it went from TGVN's agenda to PATTYCAKES agenda which was all about JACK. No, of course JACK's callous treatment of PATTYCAKES back in 1982 when she was his PREGNANT WIFE saw him cheating, lost the baby, he told her they would have another, and then she "snapped" when she heard him making a DOCTOR'S appointment for a vasectomy. But he CAN be made to be/feel RESPONSIBLE for again callouslly treating her when instead of she being his wife she is now in the place of the woman he CHEATED with on his PREGNANT WIFE. It really doesn't matter that ole smilin JACK didn't know that she was PATTYCAKES(and "why" didn't he know?)because he is once again treating women and especially PATTYCAKES like she means nothing as a person. now to me this whole tale is really about the PAST and BOTH ole VIC & ole smilin JACK's INABILITY to let go of the ABBOTT/NEWMAN FEUD to the exclusion of EVERYTHING and EVERYONE even or especially their family. There were many minor players in this whole GREEK TRAGEDY but VIC & JACK are RESPONSIBLE the most and certainly NOT TGVN by HIMSELF!

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Well Said.