The Young and the Restless - MESSAGE BOARDS

The more that I think about it, the madder I get. Everything just seemed to stop when Victor got shot by Patti. Everyone was just so consumed with his survival and the heart drama that it seems that everyone has just forgotten that this idiot almost got his grandaughter killed and yet he has never apologized for what he has done! He has never apologized to Paul for what he has done to Patti, he has never apologized to Phyllis for lying to her face about his involvment with what happened to little Summer, or Nick, his own son for that matter. How could Nick or Phyllis, Jack or Paul ever forgive Victor for just destroying Patti, Colleen's dying or his entire family for what happened to little Summer and what they all went through while this child layed in a comma for weeks. I don't blame Nick and Phyllis for not forgiving Victor, this arrogant idiot has never told either of them how sorry he is for the part he played in what happened. Is he that proud? That he can't humble himself to apologize for causing his grandaughter to almost die? And Nikki? When is going to ever apologize to her for sweeping the floor with her for months, for talking to her like she was nothing more than one of the wild animals on his ranch? I never wanted to see Victor leave, but I am very angry with him for being such an arrogant idiot to his family members. He should apologize to Ashley as well. Maybe she wouldn't be asking for the ranch if he would have been more understanding of what she has been through. He just threw her over like yesterday's trash and she just had his baby! What kind of low class jerk as Victor become that he cannot humble himself to his family and ask their forgivness! I never heard Victor Newman even than Tracy for giving him Colleen's heart! Does he even act grateful? And they wonder why Billy wants to blast him! I have lost all of my respect for Victor and for years I always just loved him. This fiasco has done it for me. I don't blame Phyllis for not wanting to live near him, how will she know if he gets into another vendetta thing that he won't come after her or even Nick? And Nick? How on earth can he just suck up the fact that his father almost had his daughter killed? I want to hear the words said to both Nick and Phyllis over this and if Nikki is stupid enough to take this jerk back, I want to hear him tell her that he is so sorry for how he swept the floor with her and used her like a doormat! I wanted to hear Victor say to Tracy how grateful he was to her for his very life! The man owes the parents of his grandchild a huge apology and I want to see him give it! It is a travesty the way he throws his weight around his children, like he can just do to them what he pleases because he is "daddy warbucks" and since he supports all of them, he can just treat them in any manner that he deems fit for them! He is disgusting!

I don't think is every gonna say he is sorry cause if he do then he is admitting 2 everything ppl r saying what he did is true. I read on 2morrow episode he is suppose to say that he done alot of things but noneof them he regret so that means almost getting his granddaughter killed indirectly causing colleen death and destroying paul life along with his sister. If I was nick and phyllis victor couldn't tell me nothing father or no father and I bon't blame phyllis 4 not wanting 2 b around victor cause everytime she looks at him it is jus a reminder of what he has done. But Phyllis is in a hard place cause she wants to help her husband but her husband works for the man she dispise the most. And I feel sorry Nick cause that is his father and summer is his daughter soIf he 4give victor it would look like he is sayng that it was ok 4 what he did 2 summer and if he stay mad at victor he would always b at war with his father. I think they should have jus moed off the ranchand mayb in time they can come 2 some kind of understanding, but knowing phyliss that will never happen. And no matter if victor did try 2 aplolgize I don't think phyllis would have cared anyway

I think that if Victor apologized to all of them it would go along way to mending his fences in his family. I could never respect a man who let his father practically kill his child and just suck it up. That would make me furious. I think that it would go along way to helping Phyllis get passed what he has done to her daughter. In fact, he is saying that he doesn't care that Colleen died, even though he has her heart and is living today because she died. I just do not see how he expects his family to stick around him after all of this and he has no remorse. Victor is evil. Instead of getting someone's good heart, he has lost his soul and made a mockery of getting a heart from someone as kind and forgiving as Colleen! What a pig!

Not apologizing gives Victor's character the chance to return like John has to thrill the paranormal market viewers just in case the network comes to its senses.

That way Adam can have a real battle with his father.

I don't think he lied to her face, he said, "I would never do anything to hurt my family..". Regardless, if he apologizes then the following need to offer up an apology:
1. Jack for his behavior years ago.
2. Dr. Peterson for knowing Patty was crazy and not having her locked up.
3. Paul for fighting the authorities on her arrest.
4. Phyllis for leaving her child in the company of someone she knew nothing about.

TGVN (IMO) brought this chick to town to mess with Jack--end of story. Patty is responsible for her actions.

Summer is recovering and I think that Phylis would be able to move on if Victor showed any humility or took any responsibility. Just say the words "I am sorry that I ever brought Patti to Williams to town" Uttering those words would do a lot to start the healing. Victor claims to have no regrets. Really? He does not regret searching out a psycho in a homeless shelter and bringing her to town to use against your arch enemy? He does not regret that Colleen is dead? I know that Patti is responsible for her own actions but she was in Minneapolis minding her own business until Victor came along.

I don't see how Sharon, Nick or Phylis are to blame but Jack has owned his part in the mess and Paul was so guilt ridden he could not bring himself to attends Colleen's memorial service, the man was a blubbering mess around Traci. Victor IMO has not owned the part he played he even tried to blame her psychiatrist the other day. It is all Victor? Of course not but he should own his bit.

How about NEVER?

Victor should have said something right after he found out Patty was the one who kissed summer. But he didn't so I don't expect an apology coming anytime soon.