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Quote suegerry: She is/will be Summer Jackelyn Abbott mark my words.......its not only a sybil I believe this will be the end result sometime in the future. |
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Quote SudWatcher: Quote clicquot1: Quote Oreo123: Quote Mrs. Sharon Newman: im on the fence with this topic. on one hand, nick was the only one to see the results and could have possibly lied . on the other hand , if nick did lie it would make him no better then Adam and it would cause a lot of damage to his character. i think the writers left it open and had only nick see the results so that they could flip it either way if they wanted to . **********Very logical and intelligent explanation******* I personally think that NICK is the baby daddy! That being said NICK read the results and left for the weekend and when he came back he thought he was going to have his cake and eat it too, that is stay with his family(SHARON & NOAH) and be able to see the baby whenever he wanted. Now, he could very well have lied since he thought he could have it all. but I really do NOT think so. PHYLLIS said NO to this and said she would raise the baby all by herself and SHARON found out the baby was NICK's and threw him out. Now there are ALSO other possibilities in that NICK could have read the results and it said HE is/was the father but it was CHANGED. The results could have been changed by TGVN or one of his henchmen to deny ole smilin JACK a child that he very much wanted. Why would TGVN do this you say? Hello, can you say the ABBOTT/NEWMAN FEUD! Why would ole VIC involve an innocent baby, you say? HELLO, ole VIC & JACK bargained over NIKKI like she was the last slice of PIZZA one time. Anyone remember that JACK was married to NIKKI and ole VIC had control of JABOT and JACK wanted it back and TGVN wanted NIKKI so JACK got JABOT and TGVN got NIKKI back after JACK divorced her. TGVN is NOT above or should I say below using an innocent little baby. The only other possibility is that PHYLLIS herself was the one who changed the DNA results(she has done this before)and we "all" know how easy it is to fix a DNA TEST in GC don't we? just ask PHYLLIS, or CANE or,Even "if" this is true that she is NOT his daughter it won't matter to NICK because he loves her and Y&R has always had men who have raised other men's children and loved them as their own. Look how much NICK loved and adored his beloved CASSIE and NEIL LILY and RYAN McNEIL loved PC4 just a few examples...................... Love, love, love your last point clicquot1. Phyllis very well could have messed with the DNA. She wanted Nick in the worst way and did not care about his feelings for Sharon or the fact that they just lost a child. She cared about Sharon about as much as she cared about Christine and Danny's marriage when she trashed that. Your are right, the men of GC love their babies even when they turn out not to be their bio babies! I was NOT accusing anyone of changing the test just merely laying out all the possibilities of which there are several but I am glad you are pleased with "one" of the possible scenarios. |
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Quote The Naked Truth: Quote Gencor: Quote niptuck: Quote Gencor: I don't think that there is really any doubt that Summer is Nick's daughter, but I believe that it is just a wish that isn't ever going to come true by those who don't like this fact. However, on the other hand, I am not convinced that Faith is going to end up being his child. There are too many circumstances that could change that on a dime. I am not sure that in the end she will not end up being Jack's child or perhaps even Billy's daughter. Things are looking like they are moving in that direction. Is'nt that like calling the Kattle Black, those that wish Summers is Jacks, is'nt ever coming true, BUT on the other hand Sharons baby is not Nicks its someone elses, Ummm excuse me please see the thing that is different is she brought the results to show Nick she was very HAPPY when she saw the results and wanted to share the information with Nick, HELLO she had the RESULTS in her Hand, anyone rememner, unlike Nick He saw the Results looked like he just drunk some Prum Juice and had to make a EXIT, and EXIT he did out of town in a Hurry, why because he was excluded from being the Father. I disagree. The fact is that Nick found out he was Summer's father and he went away to decide what he wanted to do about it. Sharon saw the paper, much the same way Nick saw the paper saying he was Summer's dad, the only problem with Sharon's paper is that it could have been tampered with. There was was Pattie lurking out there and we all know that she could have very easily tampered with that piece of paper. It is up to the writers how they will write this, but I am thinking that to make this much more intersting, Faith could very well turn out to be Billy's or Jack's. It is really all in the hands of the writers. when sharon said jack was the dad patti was upset if she had tampered with it she would of wondered why it did not say nick or billy was the dad.patti would of been more adamant about jack not being the father after sharon claimed he was if she tampered with it. Great observation.......personally I doubt Patti would have the know how of DNA tampering.....Phyllis ole gal....yes indeed she would....done that, been there... |
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The only tampering done in this storyline was done by ADAM. |
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Quote clicquot1: Quote SudWatcher: Quote clicquot1: Quote Oreo123: Quote Mrs. Sharon Newman: im on the fence with this topic. on one hand, nick was the only one to see the results and could have possibly lied . on the other hand , if nick did lie it would make him no better then Adam and it would cause a lot of damage to his character. i think the writers left it open and had only nick see the results so that they could flip it either way if they wanted to . **********Very logical and intelligent explanation******* I personally think that NICK is the baby daddy! That being said NICK read the results and left for the weekend and when he came back he thought he was going to have his cake and eat it too, that is stay with his family(SHARON & NOAH) and be able to see the baby whenever he wanted. Now, he could very well have lied since he thought he could have it all. but I really do NOT think so. PHYLLIS said NO to this and said she would raise the baby all by herself and SHARON found out the baby was NICK's and threw him out. Now there are ALSO other possibilities in that NICK could have read the results and it said HE is/was the father but it was CHANGED. The results could have been changed by TGVN or one of his henchmen to deny ole smilin JACK a child that he very much wanted. Why would TGVN do this you say? Hello, can you say the ABBOTT/NEWMAN FEUD! Why would ole VIC involve an innocent baby, you say? HELLO, ole VIC & JACK bargained over NIKKI like she was the last slice of PIZZA one time. Anyone remember that JACK was married to NIKKI and ole VIC had control of JABOT and JACK wanted it back and TGVN wanted NIKKI so JACK got JABOT and TGVN got NIKKI back after JACK divorced her. TGVN is NOT above or should I say below using an innocent little baby. The only other possibility is that PHYLLIS herself was the one who changed the DNA results(she has done this before)and we "all" know how easy it is to fix a DNA TEST in GC don't we? just ask PHYLLIS, or CANE or,Even "if" this is true that she is NOT his daughter it won't matter to NICK because he loves her and Y&R has always had men who have raised other men's children and loved them as their own. Look how much NICK loved and adored his beloved CASSIE and NEIL LILY and RYAN McNEIL loved PC4 just a few examples...................... Love, love, love your last point clicquot1. Phyllis very well could have messed with the DNA. She wanted Nick in the worst way and did not care about his feelings for Sharon or the fact that they just lost a child. She cared about Sharon about as much as she cared about Christine and Danny's marriage when she trashed that. Your are right, the men of GC love their babies even when they turn out not to be their bio babies! I was NOT accusing anyone of changing the test just merely laying out all the possibilities of which there are several but I am glad you are pleased with "one" of the possible scenarios. Of course this is La la land clicquot1, I personally loved all your possibilities. |
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Quote SudWatcher: Quote Gencor: I don't think that there is really any doubt that Summer is Nick's daughter, but I believe that it is just a wish that isn't ever going to come true by those who don't like this fact. However, on the other hand, I am not convinced that Faith is going to end up being his child. There are too many circumstances that could change that on a dime. I am not sure that in the end she will not end up being Jack's child or perhaps even Billy's daughter. Things are looking like they are moving in that direction. I don't think Sharon had a reason to lie and say that Nick was the father if he wasn't. She already had Nick regardless of the paternity of the child. Nick had already told her that. I think that Nick is the father of Faith. If you remember correctly, she did lie and say that Nick was not the father (to Nick) so that he could be with Summer and Phyllis when Summer was in the hospital. She did that because she really loves Nick and wanted Summer and Phyllis to have Nick's full attention during their crisis. Sharon had everything she wanted. Nick back, and his baby, why lie? If she was plotting, she would have told Nick that he was the father (even if he wasn't) and maintained her position beside Nick regardless of the situation with Summer. This is so true, why would she Lie and say the Baby was Jacks, when Nick had already told her it makes NO difference if he was'nt the Daddy he would stay with her, and the only wayhe found out was he over-heard her talking to her Mom, she still was going to stick to a LIE, so Nick would be with Summers and her Mother, PLAN and Simply, |
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Quote SudWatcher: Quote The Naked Truth: Nick has the capacity to lie when it benefits him.When Cassie told him who reall'y was driving that night he held that secret cause he felt so much anger.I believe he has held that secret of not being Summers dad too.WE did not see his reaction of happiness when he read the results.Only after leaving and coming back did he reveal he was the "father".Plus he knew Jack could not even stand to look at Phyliss and that Jack probably would of taken Summer away we all know Phyliss' track record of raising her own children was not good since she did not raise Daniel.I think Nick pitied her and claimed the girl.Then add in his memory loss the paternity can be flipped because of these factors at any time. I don't think that Jack would have taken the baby away from Phyllis. Even though he had issues with Phyllis he loved her and he knew had badly things were when she lost Daniel. To this day, I think that he still wishes that Phyllis and Summer were his. I disagree do you remember his face when they were at the dna test site.When Jack let go of her hand and gave her the jack abbott death stare he hated her at that moment he did not want her cause he realized she was sleeping with his former stepson.Plus she cost him Kyle.Diane used Phyliss issues as leverage against Jack yes he had a right to be mad he only came around when he helped summer come in the world in a elevator.Those abott men are always there to bring there children in the world Jack with summer in the elevator and Billy in the cabin with Chloe see a pattern do we? |
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Quote SudWatcher: I have been wondering for awhile now if Nick is really Summer's bio dad. He was the only one to read the paternity results and everyone else involved in the storyline just took his word for it. When he opened the paternity results and read them that day he didn't look overjoyed. He just put the envelope back in his suit pocket and that was that. I think this may be a storyline that very well may not be finished. What does everyone else think?? I don't know.... Does the moon have water??? This s/l was left open to that possibility and the writers have basis and means to change Summer's paternity in the future if necessary. For now, she's Nick's cuz he said so |
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Quote Gencor: Quote suegerry: She is/will be Summer Jackelyn Abbott mark my words.......its not only a sybil I disagree. I think that Summer will remain a Newman and Sharon's baby will be an Abbott, bank on it. Well, consider yourself broke and that goes to anyone else who takes this advice IMO...Summer's paternity is up in the air. They could write that either way. As for Faith, she's Nick's baby because: 1) Sharon had the paternity test that said it was (and was going to show Nick until the peanut butter debacle) 2) Nikki made a couple of comments on how Faith looks "so much like Nicholas" when he was born 4) Because Cassie said so to Nick back in the day But the writers could keep Summer as Nick's because it would make for a good rivalry when the two sisters are older |
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Quote emesse: My opinion is that idea has been beaten to death. I think Nick's Summer bio dad, why would he have lied? I know some people would like Jack to be the father, but I don't see it happening. agree |
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As of right now he is Summer's dad but hey P3 was dead and Jill was Kay's daughter and I am sure there are more things that were and then weren't . Only time will tell. |
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I think this could go either way. |
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Quote SudWatcher: I have been wondering for awhile now if Nick is really Summer's bio dad. He was the only one to read the paternity results and everyone else involved in the storyline just took his word for it. When he opened the paternity results and read them that day he didn't look overjoyed. He just put the envelope back in his suit pocket and that was that. I think this may be a storyline that very well may not be finished. What does everyone else think?? I think you have perfectly summed up the situation. The storylines are written in a way that characters can be resurrected, fathers/mothers can be interchanged, children can be disowned, DNA switched, buried alive people returning, bodies in caskets coming back, etc. You name it, it can happen. |
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Quote niptuck: Sharon always thinks shes doing the right thing she has done this twice (enough Sharon-Stop) but yes i beleive Summers is Jacks (did Jack even take a DNA) but any way when Nick got the results, Mind you No body saw the result But Nick, and that look was not a welcome look he even said he had to go away never heard what the results were-ever,period,Blank,out of sight out of mind,puuuuf, only Nick No for sure, but then did'nt he have a Memory Lost? Well if i remember right that is when his plane crashed and they thought he was dead but he wasnt and he had amnesia. seems like he never fully got his memory back of when he was with phyllis but remembered his relationship with sharon so he got filled in on that. strong possibility that at the time he got the results he wanted a little girl so bad and she was a fill in for cassie so he let it be him. i just dont think he remembers and that summer is jack's. JMO |
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Quote The Naked Truth: Quote SudWatcher: Quote The Naked Truth: Nick has the capacity to lie when it benefits him.When Cassie told him who reall'y was driving that night he held that secret cause he felt so much anger.I believe he has held that secret of not being Summers dad too.WE did not see his reaction of happiness when he read the results.Only after leaving and coming back did he reveal he was the "father".Plus he knew Jack could not even stand to look at Phyliss and that Jack probably would of taken Summer away we all know Phyliss' track record of raising her own children was not good since she did not raise Daniel.I think Nick pitied her and claimed the girl.Then add in his memory loss the paternity can be flipped because of these factors at any time. I don't think that Jack would have taken the baby away from Phyllis. Even though he had issues with Phyllis he loved her and he knew had badly things were when she lost Daniel. To this day, I think that he still wishes that Phyllis and Summer were his. I disagree do you remember his face when they were at the dna test site.When Jack let go of her hand and gave her the jack abbott death stare he hated her at that moment he did not want her cause he realized she was sleeping with his former stepson.Plus she cost him Kyle.Diane used Phyliss issues as leverage against Jack yes he had a right to be mad he only came around when he helped summer come in the world in a elevator.Those abott men are always there to bring there children in the world Jack with summer in the elevator and Billy in the cabin with Chloe see a pattern do we? Even though I am not a fan of PHYLLIS I will defend her here. She did NOT cost JACK KYLE because the judge awarded custody of KYLE to JACK & PHYLLIS(they were married at the time) and they decided together that KYLE would be better off with DIANE. So you see she didn't cost him his son, KYLE. |
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