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Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
Started by SudWatcher at 2009/10/26 11:19AMLatest post: 2009/11/07 03:32PM, Views: 3320, Replies: 113
#11
2009/10/26 12:15PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
emesse |
Quote SudWatcher: Quote emesse: My opinion is that idea has been beaten to death. I think Nick's Summer bio dad, why would he have lied? I know some people would like Jack to be the father, but I don't see it happening. He would have lied because lying was easier than facing the truth about his life with Sharon and accepting and grieving the loss of Cassie with Sharon. We all know what a pillar of strength and support he was in helping Sharon grieve. He has since apologized to Sharon for not being there with her and for her during their loss. He also admitted that it was easier not to deal with their loss together. Nick is way not above lying. Being with Phyllis and having a baby with Phyllis was a lot easier for him to deal with then staying with Sharon. Maybe, but I do believe he's Summer's father |
#12
2009/10/26 12:16PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
Oreo123 |
Quote Mrs. Sharon Newman: im on the fence with this topic. on one hand, nick was the only one to see the results and could have possibly lied . on the other hand , if nick did lie it would make him no better then Adam and it would cause a lot of damage to his character. i think the writers left it open and had only nick see the results so that they could flip it either way if they wanted to . **********Very logical and intelligent explanation******* |
#13
2009/10/26 12:18PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
CARMEN JONES |
Yes!! I do believe Summer is Nick's bio. child. Now Baby Faith is another story. I think she is really an Abbott. I'm not sure Jack's or Billy's but I;m hoping Billy's. So Ashley can just go from mom to aunt!! |
#14
2009/10/26 12:31PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
clicquot1 |
Quote Oreo123: Quote Mrs. Sharon Newman: im on the fence with this topic. on one hand, nick was the only one to see the results and could have possibly lied . on the other hand , if nick did lie it would make him no better then Adam and it would cause a lot of damage to his character. i think the writers left it open and had only nick see the results so that they could flip it either way if they wanted to . **********Very logical and intelligent explanation******* I personally think that NICK is the baby daddy! That being said NICK read the results and left for the weekend and when he came back he thought he was going to have his cake and eat it too, that is stay with his family(SHARON & NOAH) and be able to see the baby whenever he wanted. Now, he could very well have lied since he thought he could have it all. but I really do NOT think so. PHYLLIS said NO to this and said she would raise the baby all by herself and SHARON found out the baby was NICK's and threw him out. Now there are ALSO other possibilities in that NICK could have read the results and it said HE is/was the father but it was CHANGED. The results could have been changed by TGVN or one of his henchmen to deny ole smilin JACK a child that he very much wanted. Why would TGVN do this you say? Hello, can you say the ABBOTT/NEWMAN FEUD! Why would ole VIC involve an innocent baby, you say? HELLO, ole VIC & JACK bargained over NIKKI like she was the last slice of PIZZA one time. Anyone remember that JACK was married to NIKKI and ole VIC had control of JABOT and JACK wanted it back and TGVN wanted NIKKI so JACK got JABOT and TGVN got NIKKI back after JACK divorced her. TGVN is NOT above or should I say below using an innocent little baby. The only other possibility is that PHYLLIS herself was the one who changed the DNA results(she has done this before)and we "all" know how easy it is to fix a DNA TEST in GC don't we? just ask PHYLLIS, or CANE or,Even "if" this is true that she is NOT his daughter it won't matter to NICK because he loves her and Y&R has always had men who have raised other men's children and loved them as their own. Look how much NICK loved and adored his beloved CASSIE and NEIL LILY and RYAN McNEIL loved PC4 just a few examples...................... |
#15
2009/10/26 12:31PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
suegerry |
I wasn't going to comment on this but there I go....when this s/l was active it was said that Summer would end up being Jackk's then the writers turned it around. Nick was the only one that saw a DNA test. Was this one altered. |
...could very well be. 
I doubt Nick would lie, I can't see the reasoning. He wanted to stay with Sharon and their son. Phyllis never asked to see this test, strange for a mother, 
if I remember she told Jack that he didn't have to see it.....again could this be that Jack would have been the wiser and recognized an altered DNA test result.....knowing what Phyllis was capable of doing in the past with Daniel's and Lily's... 
#16
2009/10/26 12:31PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
The Naked Truth |
Nick has the capacity to lie when it benefits him.When Cassie told him who reall'y was driving that night he held that secret cause he felt so much anger.I believe he has held that secret of not being Summers dad too.WE did not see his reaction of happiness when he read the results.Only after leaving and coming back did he reveal he was the "father".Plus he knew Jack could not even stand to look at Phyliss and that Jack probably would of taken Summer away we all know Phyliss' track record of raising her own children was not good since she did not raise Daniel.I think Nick pitied her and claimed the girl.Then add in his memory loss the paternity can be flipped because of these factors at any time. |
#17
2009/10/26 12:34PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
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emesse |
Quote CARMEN JONES: Yes!! I do believe Summer is Nick's bio. child. Now Baby Faith is another story. I think she is really an Abbott. I'm not sure Jack's or Billy's but I;m hoping Billy's. So Ashley can just go from mom to aunt!! That's what I'm thinking too, but it's another story... |
#18
2009/10/26 12:36PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
Gencor |
Quote niptuck: Quote Gencor: I don't think that there is really any doubt that Summer is Nick's daughter, but I believe that it is just a wish that isn't ever going to come true by those who don't like this fact. However, on the other hand, I am not convinced that Faith is going to end up being his child. There are too many circumstances that could change that on a dime. I am not sure that in the end she will not end up being Jack's child or perhaps even Billy's daughter. Things are looking like they are moving in that direction. Is'nt that like calling the Kattle Black, those that wish Summers is Jacks, is'nt ever coming true, BUT on the other hand Sharons baby is not Nicks its someone elses, Ummm excuse me please see the thing that is different is she brought the results to show Nick she was very HAPPY when she saw the results and wanted to share the information with Nick, HELLO she had the RESULTS in her Hand, anyone rememner, unlike Nick He saw the Results looked like he just drunk some Prum Juice and had to make a EXIT, and EXIT he did out of town in a Hurry, why because he was excluded from being the Father.  I disagree. The fact is that Nick found out he was Summer's father and he went away to decide what he wanted to do about it. Sharon saw the paper, much the same way Nick saw the paper saying he was Summer's dad, the only problem with Sharon's paper is that it could have been tampered with. There was was Pattie lurking out there and we all know that she could have very easily tampered with that piece of paper. It is up to the writers how they will write this, but I am thinking that to make this much more intersting, Faith could very well turn out to be Billy's or Jack's. It is really all in the hands of the writers. |
#19
2009/10/26 12:37PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
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suegerry |
She is/will be Summer Jackelyn Abbott mark my words.......its not only a sybil |
#20
2009/10/26 12:37PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
SudWatcher |
Quote Gencor: I don't think that there is really any doubt that Summer is Nick's daughter, but I believe that it is just a wish that isn't ever going to come true by those who don't like this fact. However, on the other hand, I am not convinced that Faith is going to end up being his child. There are too many circumstances that could change that on a dime. I am not sure that in the end she will not end up being Jack's child or perhaps even Billy's daughter. Things are looking like they are moving in that direction. I don't think Sharon had a reason to lie and say that Nick was the father if he wasn't. She already had Nick regardless of the paternity of the child. Nick had already told her that. I think that Nick is the father of Faith. If you remember correctly, she did lie and say that Nick was not the father (to Nick) so that he could be with Summer and Phyllis when Summer was in the hospital. She did that because she really loves Nick and wanted Summer and Phyllis to have Nick's full attention during their crisis. Sharon had everything she wanted. Nick back, and his baby, why lie? If she was plotting, she would have told Nick that he was the father (even if he wasn't) and maintained her position beside Nick regardless of the situation with Summer. |
#21
2009/10/26 12:39PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
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suegerry |
Quote SudWatcher: Quote Gencor: I don't think that there is really any doubt that Summer is Nick's daughter, but I believe that it is just a wish that isn't ever going to come true by those who don't like this fact. However, on the other hand, I am not convinced that Faith is going to end up being his child. There are too many circumstances that could change that on a dime. I am not sure that in the end she will not end up being Jack's child or perhaps even Billy's daughter. Things are looking like they are moving in that direction. I don't think Sharon had a reason to lie and say that Nick was the father if he wasn't. She already had Nick regardless of the paternity of the child. Nick had already told her that. I think that Nick is the father of Faith. If you remember correctly, she did lie and say that Nick was not the father (to Nick) so that he could be with Summer and Phyllis when Summer was in the hospital. She did that because she really loves Nick and wanted Summer and Phyllis to have Nick's full attention during their crisis. Sharon had everything she wanted. Nick back, and his baby, why lie? If she was plotting, she would have told Nick that he was the father (even if he wasn't) and maintained her position beside Nick regardless of the situation with Summer. Right on that's what Sharon is made of.....good stuff. The woman has never had to revert to crimes to be recognize....the beauty of this character... 
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#22
2009/10/26 12:46PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
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SudWatcher |
Quote clicquot1: Quote Oreo123: Quote Mrs. Sharon Newman: im on the fence with this topic. on one hand, nick was the only one to see the results and could have possibly lied . on the other hand , if nick did lie it would make him no better then Adam and it would cause a lot of damage to his character. i think the writers left it open and had only nick see the results so that they could flip it either way if they wanted to . **********Very logical and intelligent explanation******* I personally think that NICK is the baby daddy! That being said NICK read the results and left for the weekend and when he came back he thought he was going to have his cake and eat it too, that is stay with his family(SHARON & NOAH) and be able to see the baby whenever he wanted. Now, he could very well have lied since he thought he could have it all. but I really do NOT think so. PHYLLIS said NO to this and said she would raise the baby all by herself and SHARON found out the baby was NICK's and threw him out. Now there are ALSO other possibilities in that NICK could have read the results and it said HE is/was the father but it was CHANGED. The results could have been changed by TGVN or one of his henchmen to deny ole smilin JACK a child that he very much wanted. Why would TGVN do this you say? Hello, can you say the ABBOTT/NEWMAN FEUD! Why would ole VIC involve an innocent baby, you say? HELLO, ole VIC & JACK bargained over NIKKI like she was the last slice of PIZZA one time. Anyone remember that JACK was married to NIKKI and ole VIC had control of JABOT and JACK wanted it back and TGVN wanted NIKKI so JACK got JABOT and TGVN got NIKKI back after JACK divorced her. TGVN is NOT above or should I say below using an innocent little baby. The only other possibility is that PHYLLIS herself was the one who changed the DNA results(she has done this before)and we "all" know how easy it is to fix a DNA TEST in GC don't we? just ask PHYLLIS, or CANE or,Even "if" this is true that she is NOT his daughter it won't matter to NICK because he loves her and Y&R has always had men who have raised other men's children and loved them as their own. Look how much NICK loved and adored his beloved CASSIE and NEIL LILY and RYAN McNEIL loved PC4 just a few examples...................... Love, love, love your last point clicquot1. Phyllis very well could have messed with the DNA. She wanted Nick in the worst way and did not care about his feelings for Sharon or the fact that they just lost a child. She cared about Sharon about as much as she cared about Christine and Danny's marriage when she trashed that. Your are right, the men of GC love their babies even when they turn out not to be their bio babies! |
#23
2009/10/26 12:47PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
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Gencor |
Quote suegerry: She is/will be Summer Jackelyn Abbott mark my words.......its not only a sybil I disagree. I think that Summer will remain a Newman and Sharon's baby will be an Abbott, bank on it. |
#24
2009/10/26 12:48PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
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SudWatcher |
Quote The Naked Truth: Nick has the capacity to lie when it benefits him.When Cassie told him who reall'y was driving that night he held that secret cause he felt so much anger.I believe he has held that secret of not being Summers dad too.WE did not see his reaction of happiness when he read the results.Only after leaving and coming back did he reveal he was the "father".Plus he knew Jack could not even stand to look at Phyliss and that Jack probably would of taken Summer away we all know Phyliss' track record of raising her own children was not good since she did not raise Daniel.I think Nick pitied her and claimed the girl.Then add in his memory loss the paternity can be flipped because of these factors at any time. I don't think that Jack would have taken the baby away from Phyllis. Even though he had issues with Phyllis he loved her and he knew had badly things were when she lost Daniel. To this day, I think that he still wishes that Phyllis and Summer were his. |
#25
2009/10/26 12:49PM
Re: Is Nick really Summer's Bio Dad???
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The Naked Truth |
Quote Gencor: Quote niptuck: Quote Gencor: I don't think that there is really any doubt that Summer is Nick's daughter, but I believe that it is just a wish that isn't ever going to come true by those who don't like this fact. However, on the other hand, I am not convinced that Faith is going to end up being his child. There are too many circumstances that could change that on a dime. I am not sure that in the end she will not end up being Jack's child or perhaps even Billy's daughter. Things are looking like they are moving in that direction. Is'nt that like calling the Kattle Black, those that wish Summers is Jacks, is'nt ever coming true, BUT on the other hand Sharons baby is not Nicks its someone elses, Ummm excuse me please see the thing that is different is she brought the results to show Nick she was very HAPPY when she saw the results and wanted to share the information with Nick, HELLO she had the RESULTS in her Hand, anyone rememner, unlike Nick He saw the Results looked like he just drunk some Prum Juice and had to make a EXIT, and EXIT he did out of town in a Hurry, why because he was excluded from being the Father. I disagree. The fact is that Nick found out he was Summer's father and he went away to decide what he wanted to do about it. Sharon saw the paper, much the same way Nick saw the paper saying he was Summer's dad, the only problem with Sharon's paper is that it could have been tampered with. There was was Pattie lurking out there and we all know that she could have very easily tampered with that piece of paper. It is up to the writers how they will write this, but I am thinking that to make this much more intersting, Faith could very well turn out to be Billy's or Jack's. It is really all in the hands of the writers. when sharon said jack was the dad patti was upset if she had tampered with it she would of wondered why it did not say nick or billy was the dad.patti would of been more adamant about jack not being the father after sharon claimed he was if she tampered with it. |
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