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Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?

Started by YR15yrs+ at 2009/10/25 12:05PM
Latest post: 2009/10/26 10:01AM, Views: 2130, Replies: 111
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#41   2009/10/25 03:37PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Memory24
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Quote sheagirl:
Quote Memory24: I don't know it depends.

I hated Phyllis when she first came on cause she messed up Danny and Cricket.

Phyllis was out there and I always felt bad for POOR JOANIE she had to deal with the brunt of everything.

But Phyllis was exciting to watch because I didn't know what she was going to do next.

I was always hating her. Then she came back and her relationship with Jack started. I hated when she helped Brittany ruin Mac and Billy. So that was strike two against her for messing up another one of my favorite couples.

But I still watched her. I loved her Jack together.

Then she got with Nick and well I think everyone knows how I feel about that.

I just think Phyllis needs a juicier s/l.


A reporter from SID asked Maria Bell about Phyllis' past misdeeds. Ms. Bell's said Phyllis, Kevin and Michael are all compelling characters so we overlook their misdeeds. Or words to that affect. In other words, they are great characters and we don't care what they did in the past. So um there it is.


Just b/c Maria Bell looks past Phyllis' CRIMES. Does not mean I will or others for that matter. Don't even like what she is doing with Y&R. I could care less.

I don't like Kevin and I don't think he is a compelling character at all. That is just my opinion.

I like Michael but he is barely on and I have not forgotten what he has done in the past. But the big difference between him and his best bud Phyllis is that he paid for his crimes.

#42   2009/10/25 03:40PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
ILuvNY
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Quote Memory24:
Quote sheagirl:
Quote Memory24: I don't know it depends.

I hated Phyllis when she first came on cause she messed up Danny and Cricket.

Phyllis was out there and I always felt bad for POOR JOANIE she had to deal with the brunt of everything.

But Phyllis was exciting to watch because I didn't know what she was going to do next.

I was always hating her. Then she came back and her relationship with Jack started. I hated when she helped Brittany ruin Mac and Billy. So that was strike two against her for messing up another one of my favorite couples.

But I still watched her. I loved her Jack together.

Then she got with Nick and well I think everyone knows how I feel about that.

I just think Phyllis needs a juicier s/l.


A reporter from SID asked Maria Bell about Phyllis' past misdeeds. Ms. Bell's said Phyllis, Kevin and Michael are all compelling characters so we overlook their misdeeds. Or words to that affect. In other words, they are great characters and we don't care what they did in the past. So um there it is.


Just b/c Maria Bell looks past Phyllis' CRIMES. Does not mean I will or others for that matter. Don't even like what she is doing with Y&R. I could care less.

I don't like Kevin and I don't think he is a compelling character at all. That is just my opinion.

I like Michael but he is barely on and I have not forgotten what he has done in the past. But the big difference between him and his best bud Phyllis is that he paid for his crimes.


COMPELLING???? PHYLLIS, MICHEAL AND KEVIN? Maria Bell may think so, but many fans have overwhelming disagreed with her. Does she ever read these boards? Seems that their sins haven't been "overlooked" by many viewers/past viewers.

#43   2009/10/25 03:41PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Debrajo
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Quote Memory24:
Quote sheagirl:
Quote Memory24: I don't know it depends.

I hated Phyllis when she first came on cause she messed up Danny and Cricket.

Phyllis was out there and I always felt bad for POOR JOANIE she had to deal with the brunt of everything.

But Phyllis was exciting to watch because I didn't know what she was going to do next.

I was always hating her. Then she came back and her relationship with Jack started. I hated when she helped Brittany ruin Mac and Billy. So that was strike two against her for messing up another one of my favorite couples.

But I still watched her. I loved her Jack together.

Then she got with Nick and well I think everyone knows how I feel about that.

I just think Phyllis needs a juicier s/l.


A reporter from SID asked Maria Bell about Phyllis' past misdeeds. Ms. Bell's said Phyllis, Kevin and Michael are all compelling characters so we overlook their misdeeds. Or words to that affect. In other words, they are great characters and we don't care what they did in the past. So um there it is.


Just b/c Maria Bell looks past Phyllis' CRIMES. Does not mean I will or others for that matter. Don't even like what she is doing with Y&R. I could care less.

I don't like Kevin and I don't think he is a compelling character at all. That is just my opinion.

I like Michael but he is barely on and I have not forgotten what he has done in the past. But the big difference between him and his best bud Phyllis is that he paid for his crimes.


Amen Mem.There are a lot of people that don't agree with MB.At all.

#44   2009/10/25 03:45PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Oreo123
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Agree or not... characters evole...don't be too surprised if Sharon (for the time being) evolves without Nick even if Faith is retored to her...it is not a given.

#45   2009/10/25 03:48PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Soulsistah
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Quote sheagirl:
Quote Memory24: I don't know it depends.

I hated Phyllis when she first came on cause she messed up Danny and Cricket.

Phyllis was out there and I always felt bad for POOR JOANIE she had to deal with the brunt of everything.

But Phyllis was exciting to watch because I didn't know what she was going to do next.

I was always hating her. Then she came back and her relationship with Jack started. I hated when she helped Brittany ruin Mac and Billy. So that was strike two against her for messing up another one of my favorite couples.

But I still watched her. I loved her Jack together.

Then she got with Nick and well I think everyone knows how I feel about that.

I just think Phyllis needs a juicier s/l.


A reporter from SID asked Maria Bell about Phyllis' past misdeeds. Ms. Bell's said Phyllis, Kevin and Michael are all compelling characters so we overlook their misdeeds. Or words to that affect. In other words, they are great characters and we don't care what they did in the past. So um there it is.


That would explain how MAB is getting so much accolades on the boards for her great writing and "getting" what viewers want...NOT! It's too bad MAB's don't speak for the many fans who are expressing how much they dislike Phyllis because, unlike Michael and Kevin, she's NEVER paid for her crimes - things people like Lauren never committed. Sorry, Phyllis is a criminal and long time fans know she's never paid for many of her heinous crimes, so she'll never get a pass. That's just the truth. There it is.

Phyllis hasn't evolved one bit, unlike some of the other pyschos on the show. She's still the weak, man-obsessed, whiney, insecure, jealous sociopath she was before. She hasn't changed at all. She's sad.

#46   2009/10/25 03:50PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
The Naked Truth
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Quote ILuvNY:
Quote Memory24:
Quote sheagirl:
Quote Memory24: I don't know it depends.

I hated Phyllis when she first came on cause she messed up Danny and Cricket.

Phyllis was out there and I always felt bad for POOR JOANIE she had to deal with the brunt of everything.

But Phyllis was exciting to watch because I didn't know what she was going to do next.

I was always hating her. Then she came back and her relationship with Jack started. I hated when she helped Brittany ruin Mac and Billy. So that was strike two against her for messing up another one of my favorite couples.

But I still watched her. I loved her Jack together.

Then she got with Nick and well I think everyone knows how I feel about that.

I just think Phyllis needs a juicier s/l.


A reporter from SID asked Maria Bell about Phyllis' past misdeeds. Ms. Bell's said Phyllis, Kevin and Michael are all compelling characters so we overlook their misdeeds. Or words to that affect. In other words, they are great characters and we don't care what they did in the past. So um there it is.


Just b/c Maria Bell looks past Phyllis' CRIMES. Does not mean I will or others for that matter. Don't even like what she is doing with Y&R. I could care less.

I don't like Kevin and I don't think he is a compelling character at all. That is just my opinion.

I like Michael but he is barely on and I have not forgotten what he has done in the past. But the big difference between him and his best bud Phyllis is that he paid for his crimes.


COMPELLING???? PHYLLIS, MICHEAL AND KEVIN? Maria Bell may think so, but many fans have overwhelming disagreed with her. Does she ever read these boards? Seems that their sins haven't been "overlooked" by many viewers/past viewers.

So true head writers change all the time.Cause MAB chooses not to doesn't mean the next wont hold her accountable for her many crimes.

#47   2009/10/25 03:50PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Memory24
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Quote Oreo123: Agree or not... characters evole...don't be too surprised if Sharon (for the time being) evolves without Nick even if Faith is retored to her...it is not a given.


But that is the great thing about it I don't have to agree. I don't considered it evolving I consider it a rewrite.

But I do understand the other side and get how people see the evolution of certain characters.

#48   2009/10/25 03:54PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Soulsistah
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Quote ILuvNY:
Quote Memory24:
Quote sheagirl:
Quote Memory24: I don't know it depends.

I hated Phyllis when she first came on cause she messed up Danny and Cricket.

Phyllis was out there and I always felt bad for POOR JOANIE she had to deal with the brunt of everything.

But Phyllis was exciting to watch because I didn't know what she was going to do next.

I was always hating her. Then she came back and her relationship with Jack started. I hated when she helped Brittany ruin Mac and Billy. So that was strike two against her for messing up another one of my favorite couples.

But I still watched her. I loved her Jack together.

Then she got with Nick and well I think everyone knows how I feel about that.

I just think Phyllis needs a juicier s/l.


A reporter from SID asked Maria Bell about Phyllis' past misdeeds. Ms. Bell's said Phyllis, Kevin and Michael are all compelling characters so we overlook their misdeeds. Or words to that affect. In other words, they are great characters and we don't care what they did in the past. So um there it is.


Just b/c Maria Bell looks past Phyllis' CRIMES. Does not mean I will or others for that matter. Don't even like what she is doing with Y&R. I could care less.

I don't like Kevin and I don't think he is a compelling character at all. That is just my opinion.

I like Michael but he is barely on and I have not forgotten what he has done in the past. But the big difference between him and his best bud Phyllis is that he paid for his crimes.


COMPELLING???? PHYLLIS, MICHEAL AND KEVIN? Maria Bell may think so, but many fans have overwhelming disagreed with her. Does she ever read these boards? Seems that their sins haven't been "overlooked" by many viewers/past viewers.


Consider the source here. MAB has to make excuses for how she's allowing characters to be written now. Obviously this writing regime is a big fan of sociopaths and monsters and allow them to get away with the vile and heinous things, so I find it laughable that example. ITA - all three characters I find so far from compelling - wacked-out criminals, yes. Compelling? Ted Bundy and Charles Manson were/are compelling as well - but PYSCHOS. Phyllis' ship is so far out to sea, you can't even see it as a dot on the horizon!

#49   2009/10/25 03:55PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
suegerry
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Quote ILuvNY:
Quote sheagirl:
Quote The Naked Truth:
Quote suegerry:
Quote ILuvNY: She's about as boring as they come...it has sailed and is drifting out to sea.


I agree with you. There is nothing exciting about this character unless you like people who commits crimes and gets away with it......


So true Phyliss is a shell of her old self begging for a man who docked his boat elsewhere over and over again.I agree her ship has sailed and she does not have a lifejacket on to jump ship and swim back to shore.Any woman who bites her tongue to please a guy is a sellout remember her telling Michael she could not be herself and react to her husbands cheating cause then she would lose him.Well by putting a muzzle on her mouth she lost her pride along with him for a period of time what a sellout.


Well since Nick and Sharon have been divorced for years and he is in love with and married to another woman, I guess Sharon's way of dealing with Nick's cheating didnt' work to well did it?


Phyllis ship has sailed, but her marriage is in the dingy.
Nick is still totally IN love with Sharon. Phyllis still has him because of Summer...even she knows that.


Yea well said....it is so easy to see this. Without this child there would not be a Phick.....

#50   2009/10/25 03:58PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Oreo123
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In a nutshell...fans of Sharon and Nick will only be happy when Faith is returned to Sharon and Nick is reconciled with Sharon. Maybe. Fans want TGVN with Nikki.

Nikki with TGVN..or Paul...the MIND says Paul..the heart says TGVN

Chloe with Chance or Billy...the MIND says Chance the heart BILLY

Sharon with Nick..the mind says..someone NEW..the heart NICK

Phyllis with Nick...the mind says..someone NEW...the heart says NICK

In the end the heart goes where it wants................

#51   2009/10/25 04:01PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
puddycat
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I would personally like to apologize to anyone I may have offended on this thread, as just about all of my posts have been "bad posted."

I happen to like both Phyllis and Sharon, but I have always loved the "darkside" of this character and her clowning, tricks, stunts, mischief, larks, capers, pranks, frolics, escapades, foolishness, silliness, playfulness, skylarking, horseplay, ... etc.

She brings a great deal to the soap, (and it is just a soap) albeit many dislike her character and many have used the word "hate" when it comes to her character.

I tend to defend her because I like that her character enhances the storylines, many, many times. It is similar to Victor - - you love to hate her.

However, it is becoming more and more difficult to discuss this character in a mature and debatable fashion. I, for sure, will never post in another Sharon v. Phyllis thread or a thread that becomes one.

Once again, sorry if I offended anyone to the point they felt it necessary to bad post.

#52   2009/10/25 04:09PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Oreo123
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Quote puddycat: I would personally like to apologize to anyone I may have offended on this thread, as just about all of my posts have been "bad posted."

I happen to like both Phyllis and Sharon, but I have always loved the "darkside" of this character and her clowning, tricks, stunts, mischief, larks, capers, pranks, frolics, escapades, foolishness, silliness, playfulness, skylarking, horseplay, ... etc.

She brings a great deal to the soap, (and it is just a soap) albeit many dislike her character and many have used the word "hate" when it comes to her character.

I tend to defend her because I like that her character enhances the storylines, many, many times. It is similar to Victor - - you love to hate her.

However, it is becoming more and more difficult to discuss this character in a mature and debatable fashion. I, for sure, will never post in another Sharon v. Phyllis thread or a thread that becomes one.

Once again, sorry if I offended anyone to the point they felt it necessary to bad post.


Puddy..no need to apologize....Phyllis has morphed into a viable character..a core character. Many fans have to go to bat for Sharon (the tragic victim in Y&R) and that means attacking Phyllis. OK. But in the end...both women are viable to the central s/l neither one being all good or bad.
It is what it is.

#53   2009/10/25 04:13PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Debrajo
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Quote puddycat: I would personally like to apologize to anyone I may have offended on this thread, as just about all of my posts have been "bad posted."

I happen to like both Phyllis and Sharon, but I have always loved the "darkside" of this character and her clowning, tricks, stunts, mischief, larks, capers, pranks, frolics, escapades, foolishness, silliness, playfulness, skylarking, horseplay, ... etc.

She brings a great deal to the soap, (and it is just a soap) albeit many dislike her character and many have used the word "hate" when it comes to her character.

I tend to defend her because I like that her character enhances the storylines, many, many times. It is similar to Victor - - you love to hate her.

However, it is becoming more and more difficult to discuss this character in a mature and debatable fashion. I, for sure, will never post in another Sharon v. Phyllis thread or a thread that becomes one.

Once again, sorry if I offended anyone to the point they felt it necessary to bad post.


Puddy you have never offended me with any of your posts.I agree that this is just a soap and try not to take it too seriously.I have never bad posted any one on this board and would never do that to any one who is only stating their opinions in a respectful manner.I have been bad posted a lot of times and I am sorry if some people found my posts offensive.While I do not nor never have liked the Phyllis character I know and understand that she has many many fans.I respect that and hope that the Phyllis lovers will respect my love for Sharon.We all tend to get carried away and I know that I am guilty of that because I am a huge Sharon fan.But to bad post some one because you disagree is so very juvenile.I think it is very commendable of you to apologize but in my opinion you have done nothing to apologize for.I hope you will change your mind and continue to express your views about these two women but I completely understand if you don't.Peace

#54   2009/10/25 04:15PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Memory24
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Okay so has Phyllis' ship sailed or is it still docked.

#55   2009/10/25 04:20PM
Re: Phyllis - Has her ship sailed?
Oreo123
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I truly wish both Sharon and Phyllis would move on from Nick. Not likely. Nikki nor Victor have moved on from each other for 30 years. It is what it is.
No matter who either Nikki or Victor were married to...disagreement with their choice of spouses didn't involve bashing them. Bash Nick....as Victor was...please leave Phyllis alone..or at the very least...cease vindicating Sharon's behavior by what Phyllis did in her past.

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