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I thought Catherine had switched Jill's baby with another,hence Cane, so now that Phillip is back what was that all about? |
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Quote Xlodi: I thought Catherine had switched Jill's baby with another,hence Cane, so now that Phillip is back what was that all about? I'm with you. It's all so confusing. I too thought this storyline was about Jill's child that was switched at birth and Cane coming to town and declaring that HE was Jill's son. If Cane is suppose to be the missing Phillip III and Nina was Phillip III's wife couldn't it be easily proven that Cane is NOT Phillip III by a simple photo? What's with all this DNA testing. I can understand the DNA testing to prove whether he was Jill's son but it seems to me that any further testing was unnecessary. I never understood what Nina is in such a huff about. Wasn't she under the impression like everyone else that Phillip III was dead? I can understand her concerns that this would be just one more person that her son (Phillip IV) would have to share his inheritance with but this is the only concern that I could see her having. Hopefully someone will be able to clear things up. I'll be waiting with you! |
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Quote MadelynB: Quote Xlodi: I thought Catherine had switched Jill's baby with another,hence Cane, so now that Phillip is back what was that all about? I'm with you. It's all so confusing. I too thought this storyline was about Jill's child that was switched at birth and Cane coming to town and declaring that HE was Jill's son. If Cane is suppose to be the missing Phillip III and Nina was Phillip III's wife couldn't it be easily proven that Cane is NOT Phillip III by a simple photo? What's with all this DNA testing. I can understand the DNA testing to prove whether he was Jill's son but it seems to me that any further testing was unnecessary. I never understood what Nina is in such a huff about. Wasn't she under the impression like everyone else that Phillip III was dead? I can understand her concerns that this would be just one more person that her son (Phillip IV) would have to share his inheritance with but this is the only concern that I could see her having. Hopefully someone will be able to clear things up. I'll be waiting with you! A photo? You're kidding, right? |
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I was thinking the same thing...what was the baby-switch story line all about then? It was totally pointless if Philip really is a Chancellor! |
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Quote lovinKorbel: I was thinking the same thing...what was the baby-switch story line all about then? It was totally pointless if Philip really is a Chancellor! I have ALWAYS thought that she switched them back because she immediately felt REMORSE. One of Katherine's dreams or recollections was of RUNNING w/a baby across a field. I think she was RUNNING w/PC3 back to the estate(a field). Katherine was an ALCOHOLIC and often so out of it she didn't know which end of up of course she'd be confused about circumstances that happened 38 years ago. |
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Quote clicquot1: Quote lovinKorbel: I was thinking the same thing...what was the baby-switch story line all about then? It was totally pointless if Philip really is a Chancellor! I have ALWAYS thought that she switched them back because she immediately felt REMORSE. One of Katherine's dreams or recollections was of RUNNING w/a baby across a field. I think she was RUNNING w/PC3 back to the estate(a field). Katherine was an ALCOHOLIC and often so out of it she didn't know which end of up of course she'd be confused about circumstances that happened 38 years ago. That's very possible. With the numerous DNA tests done on Cane with Philip's blood, Philip is definitely a Chancellor. So it'll be interesting to see if the writer's return to the baby-switch storyline, and rectify what was done already. Just have to wait and see I suppose! |
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Quote clicquot1: Quote MadelynB: Quote Xlodi: I thought Catherine had switched Jill's baby with another,hence Cane, so now that Phillip is back what was that all about? I'm with you. It's all so confusing. I too thought this storyline was about Jill's child that was switched at birth and Cane coming to town and declaring that HE was Jill's son. If Cane is suppose to be the missing Phillip III and Nina was Phillip III's wife couldn't it be easily proven that Cane is NOT Phillip III by a simple photo? What's with all this DNA testing. I can understand the DNA testing to prove whether he was Jill's son but it seems to me that any further testing was unnecessary. I never understood what Nina is in such a huff about. Wasn't she under the impression like everyone else that Phillip III was dead? I can understand her concerns that this would be just one more person that her son (Phillip IV) would have to share his inheritance with but this is the only concern that I could see her having. Hopefully someone will be able to clear things up. I'll be waiting with you! A photo? You're kidding, right? No — I'm dead serious!!! Cane came to town claiming to be Jill's son. If all Jill and Katherine wanted to know was whether Cane was actually Jill's son (that she named Phillip III who later married Nina) all they would have to do was look at a photo of Phillip of any kind, however there may have been records from Phillip's marriage to Nina that would have answered this question as well. It was totally unnecessary to go the DNA route. IMO, the DNA testing only covered up a poorly written s/l. I know these characters are suppose to be wealthy but they are also suppose to be business people. A true business person doesn't have to be a genius but I would think they are quite capable of putting two and two together and they do it all the time. I know there are incompetents in every profession, but I truly think that no business person would do something so stupid as ordering a DNA when they could have gotten an answer to their question in a much faster and cheaper way. I remember Nina asking why they didn't question the original DNA test and order another test — but why would they? They got the information they were looking for. The second DNA test put this s/l even more over the top and was totally ridiculous. IMO, it was a way for the writer to continue this ridiculous s/l. Again, I say — why would they do such a stupid thing in the first place? You seem to be pretty good at this — can you tell me if I'm missing something? |
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Quote MadelynB: Quote clicquot1: Quote MadelynB: Quote Xlodi: I thought Catherine had switched Jill's baby with another,hence Cane, so now that Phillip is back what was that all about? I'm with you. It's all so confusing. I too thought this storyline was about Jill's child that was switched at birth and Cane coming to town and declaring that HE was Jill's son. If Cane is suppose to be the missing Phillip III and Nina was Phillip III's wife couldn't it be easily proven that Cane is NOT Phillip III by a simple photo? What's with all this DNA testing. I can understand the DNA testing to prove whether he was Jill's son but it seems to me that any further testing was unnecessary. I never understood what Nina is in such a huff about. Wasn't she under the impression like everyone else that Phillip III was dead? I can understand her concerns that this would be just one more person that her son (Phillip IV) would have to share his inheritance with but this is the only concern that I could see her having. Hopefully someone will be able to clear things up. I'll be waiting with you! A photo? You're kidding, right? No — I'm dead serious!!! Cane came to town claiming to be Jill's son. If all Jill and Katherine wanted to know was whether Cane was actually Jill's son (that she named Phillip III who later married Nina) all they would have to do was look at a photo of Phillip of any kind, however there may have been records from Phillip's marriage to Nina that would have answered this question as well. It was totally unnecessary to go the DNA route. IMO, the DNA testing only covered up a poorly written s/l. I know these characters are suppose to be wealthy but they are also suppose to be business people. A true business person doesn't have to be a genius but I would think they are quite capable of putting two and two together and they do it all the time. I know there are incompetents in every profession, but I truly think that no business person would do something so stupid as ordering a DNA when they could have gotten an answer to their question in a much faster and cheaper way. I remember Nina asking why they didn't question the original DNA test and order another test — but why would they? They got the information they were looking for. The second DNA test put this s/l even more over the top and was totally ridiculous. IMO, it was a way for the writer to continue this ridiculous s/l. Again, I say — why would they do such a stupid thing in the first place? You seem to be pretty good at this — can you tell me if I'm missing something? According to the theory in which CANE would be the real "heir" he was the one who JILL gave birth to. Another baby was brought over(that would be PC3)and switched and that baby(PC3) was the fake "heir" and grew up to be the man that married Nina & father(PC4). A photo would not prove anything because they all know what PHILLIP looks like. I still think the babies were switched but switched back. The real "heir"(PC3) was switched for another baby and then switched BACK but it didn't have anything to do with CANE. Katherine was quite a drunk in those days and she even "lost" periods of time, he!! she could have EVEN seen the switch in a movie and dreamt about it. Are clear or still confused? |
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CIQUOTE IS RIGHT. kATHERINE PROBABLY REMEMBERS 2 BABIES..THE ONE SHE GAVE AWAY - HER DAUGHTER ...AND JILLS THE ONE SHE TRIED TO GIVE AWAY BUT DIDN'T |
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Quote Xlodi: I thought Catherine had switched Jill's baby with another,hence Cane, so now that Phillip is back what was that all about? I, too, do not understand. Catherine switched babies, so the Phillip the third that returned today can not be a Chancellor. If Cane is the switched baby there would be no pictures of him. However, if Cane is a fraud why did he and Billy test possible to be Delia's father? For that to happen Phillip the third must be related to Jill? Did Catherine, as one poster suggested, switch babies twice? My brain just can comprehend it |
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Quote Mama Mia: Quote Xlodi: I thought Catherine had switched Jill's baby with another,hence Cane, so now that Phillip is back what was that all about? I, too, do not understand. Catherine switched babies, so the Phillip the third that returned today can not be a Chancellor. If Cane is the switched baby there would be no pictures of him. However, if Cane is a fraud why did he and Billy test possible to be Delia's father? For that to happen Phillip the third must be related to Jill? Did Catherine, as one poster suggested, switch babies twice? My brain just can comprehend it Mine and probably thousands of other viewers brains cannot digest this either...we have to wait until Monday July 6th to get to the bottom of all this mess. |
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Quote lovinKorbel: Quote clicquot1: Quote lovinKorbel: I was thinking the same thing...what was the baby-switch story line all about then? It was totally pointless if Philip really is a Chancellor! I have ALWAYS thought that she switched them back because she immediately felt REMORSE. One of Katherine's dreams or recollections was of RUNNING w/a baby across a field. I think she was RUNNING w/PC3 back to the estate(a field). Katherine was an ALCOHOLIC and often so out of it she didn't know which end of up of course she'd be confused about circumstances that happened 38 years ago. That's very possible. With the numerous DNA tests done on Cane with Philip's blood, Philip is definitely a Chancellor. So it'll be interesting to see if the writer's return to the baby-switch storyline, and rectify what was done already. Just have to wait and see I suppose! It may be possible that Philip III is not a Chancellor. |
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Quote michaelee: Quote lovinKorbel: Quote clicquot1: Quote lovinKorbel: I was thinking the same thing...what was the baby-switch story line all about then? It was totally pointless if Philip really is a Chancellor! I have ALWAYS thought that she switched them back because she immediately felt REMORSE. One of Katherine's dreams or recollections was of RUNNING w/a baby across a field. I think she was RUNNING w/PC3 back to the estate(a field). Katherine was an ALCOHOLIC and often so out of it she didn't know which end of up of course she'd be confused about circumstances that happened 38 years ago. That's very possible. With the numerous DNA tests done on Cane with Philip's blood, Philip is definitely a Chancellor. So it'll be interesting to see if the writer's return to the baby-switch storyline, and rectify what was done already. Just have to wait and see I suppose! It may be possible that Philip III is not a Chancellor. PC3 is the REAL HEIR not CANE and the whole question of the swab on Cane's cheek will be explained in the MONDAY'S episode of the U.S. I have seen a spoiler explanation and if you keep an open mind you will see the point of how TPTB explained it. |
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Quote clicquot1: Quote MadelynB: Quote clicquot1: Quote MadelynB: Quote Xlodi: I thought Catherine had switched Jill's baby with another,hence Cane, so now that Phillip is back what was that all about? I'm with you. It's all so confusing. I too thought this storyline was about Jill's child that was switched at birth and Cane coming to town and declaring that HE was Jill's son. If Cane is suppose to be the missing Phillip III and Nina was Phillip III's wife couldn't it be easily proven that Cane is NOT Phillip III by a simple photo? What's with all this DNA testing. I can understand the DNA testing to prove whether he was Jill's son but it seems to me that any further testing was unnecessary. I never understood what Nina is in such a huff about. Wasn't she under the impression like everyone else that Phillip III was dead? I can understand her concerns that this would be just one more person that her son (Phillip IV) would have to share his inheritance with but this is the only concern that I could see her having. Hopefully someone will be able to clear things up. I'll be waiting with you! A photo? You're kidding, right? No — I'm dead serious!!! Cane came to town claiming to be Jill's son. If all Jill and Katherine wanted to know was whether Cane was actually Jill's son (that she named Phillip III who later married Nina) all they would have to do was look at a photo of Phillip of any kind, however there may have been records from Phillip's marriage to Nina that would have answered this question as well. It was totally unnecessary to go the DNA route. IMO, the DNA testing only covered up a poorly written s/l. I know these characters are suppose to be wealthy but they are also suppose to be business people. A true business person doesn't have to be a genius but I would think they are quite capable of putting two and two together and they do it all the time. I know there are incompetents in every profession, but I truly think that no business person would do something so stupid as ordering a DNA when they could have gotten an answer to their question in a much faster and cheaper way. I remember Nina asking why they didn't question the original DNA test and order another test — but why would they? They got the information they were looking for. The second DNA test put this s/l even more over the top and was totally ridiculous. IMO, it was a way for the writer to continue this ridiculous s/l. Again, I say — why would they do such a stupid thing in the first place? You seem to be pretty good at this — can you tell me if I'm missing something? According to the theory in which CANE would be the real "heir" he was the one who JILL gave birth to. Another baby was brought over(that would be PC3)and switched and that baby(PC3) was the fake "heir" and grew up to be the man that married Nina & father(PC4). A photo would not prove anything because they all know what PHILLIP looks like. I still think the babies were switched but switched back. The real "heir"(PC3) was switched for another baby and then switched BACK but it didn't have anything to do with CANE. Katherine was quite a drunk in those days and she even "lost" periods of time, he!! she could have EVEN seen the switch in a movie and dreamt about it. Are clear or still confused? Thanks for writing to help me get an understanding of exactly what is going on with this storyline but I'll still need your help as I'm still very much confused. I wasn't watching Y&R when the baby switching occurred or even when PC3 was growing up and later married Nina and fathered PC4. Therefore, I really appreciate the insight you've given me thus far. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here is the storyline that I've pieced together thus far. I've included questions I have about specific points and I've included my understanding of your post: 1. PC2 was the father of the son that Jill gave birth to and they named him PC3. 2. This child was switched at birth. 3. Cane shows up in GC and claims to be that son. I was further confused while watching today's U.S. episode when Katherine asked Cane if he could ever forgive her for doubting that he was PC3. This statement doesn't make any sense to me because as you say, wouldn't she at least have known what PC3 looks like! If for some unbelievable reason, Katherine really didn't remember — that's why I made the statement about a simple photograph would have cleared up this matter instead of wasting time and money on a DNA test. 4. PC3 grew up and married Nina and fathered PC4. What I still don't understand is how baby switching has anything to do with the story at all it — this makes no sense to me. 5. According to your post, it's your theory that Jill's baby was switched at birth but Katherine later switched it back and this all had nothing to do with Cane. I never quite understood why Nina was so upset and so anxious and insistent in proving that Cane a "fake". The only thing I can figure it's because she thinks that the PC3 she married , and their son, PC4 are the only "real" heirs. Your post seems to imply that you might think the same. Do you? Sounds like Nina is a stickler for being able to solve all piece of the puzzle or perhaps she's only interested in the money. Since she and PC3 are divorced, she wouldn't get any from him but she might from PC4. 6. The other thing I don't understand is why Nina felt that Katherine and Jill should have ordered another DNA test when all they wanted to know was whether Cane was Jill's son and the DNA test proved that. Can you further explain this to me? Thanks. |
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What's confusing to me is I don't understand at all what the real Phillip's motive could be for all this. Anyone have any idea? |
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