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I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)

Started by Lilamoor at 2009/07/03 08:32AM
Latest post: 2009/07/07 03:05PM, Views: 3194, Replies: 84
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#31   2009/07/06 07:02AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Longhornsfan79
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I knew all the Cane fans would still be on his side. In their eyes, the man can do no wrong. He could set a homeless shelter on fire on Christmas Eve and the Cane fans would smile and say, "But he had good intentions all along..." And now to top it all off, they are going after Lily and Neil... "If Lily really loved him she would understand....." and "How can Neil judge Cane..." BLAH BLAH BLAH! What have Lily and Neil done to deserve criticism? Lily had her heart stomped on by someone she thought she could trust and Neil is just doing what any father would do, defend and protect his daughter.

Its time to face the facts and realize Cane isnt as perfect as everybody thought he would be! If denial were bullspit, we would be knee deep around here!

Cane fans are correct about one thing, Cane will eventually come out of this smelling like roses. The writers will make it so that he will get the sympathy of the viewers. I for one wont fall for it immeadiatly. Cane will have to work hard to get back into my good graces and many other viewers as well. I do believe in forgiveness and redemption but it has to be earned!

BTW- Cane fans: Please dont hold out hope that Cane is somehow related to ANYONE in GC. He is not. That is not a bad thing! The gene pool in GC has become quite shallow!

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#32   2009/07/06 07:09AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Oreo123
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Quote Longhornsfan79: I knew all the Cane fans would still be on his side. In their eyes, the man can do no wrong. He could set a homeless shelter on fire on Christmas Eve and the Cane fans would smile and say, "But he had good intentions all along..." And now to top it all off, they are going after Lily and Neil... "If Lily really loved him she would understand....." and "How can Neil judge Cane..." BLAH BLAH BLAH! What have Lily and Neil done to deserve criticism? Lily had her heart stomped on by someone she thought she could trust and Neil is just doing what any father would do, defend and protect his daughter.

Its time to face the facts and realize Cane isnt as perfect as everybody thought he would be! If denial were bullspit, we would be knee deep around here!

Cane fans are correct about one thing, Cane will eventually come out of this smelling like roses. The writers will make it so that he will get the sympathy of the viewers. I for one wont fall for it immeadiatly. Cane will have to work hard to get back into my good graces and many other viewers as well. I do believe in forgiveness and redemption but it has to be earned!


*********And that is the truth.....Well Said**************

#33   2009/07/06 07:19AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
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Although I like Cane and I like him with Lily, I believe Neil had every right to be angry with him and so should everyone else because he came into their lives under false pretenses and continued to participate in the lie. After doing this trust has been destroyed. I hope over time Cane will be forgiven. Will Phillip be
forgiven for creating this giant mess? We will see. Also someone needs to explain how Cane could possibly be related to Delia? Please no more DNA switching it just doesn't make sense!

#34   2009/07/06 07:32AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Oreo123
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Quote pjmb: Although I like Cane and I like him with Lily, I believe Neil had every right to be angry with him and so should everyone else because he came into their lives under false pretenses and continued to participate in the lie. After doing this trust has been destroyed. I hope over time Cane will be forgiven. Will Phillip be
forgiven for creating this giant mess? We will see. Also someone needs to explain how Cane could possibly be related to Delia? Please no more DNA switching it just doesn't make sense!


Cane is not related to Dehlia...PC is because he and Billy share the same mother.

#35   2009/07/06 07:43AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Longhornsfan79
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Quote Oreo123:
Quote Longhornsfan79: I knew all the Cane fans would still be on his side. In their eyes, the man can do no wrong. He could set a homeless shelter on fire on Christmas Eve and the Cane fans would smile and say, "But he had good intentions all along..." And now to top it all off, they are going after Lily and Neil... "If Lily really loved him she would understand....." and "How can Neil judge Cane..." BLAH BLAH BLAH! What have Lily and Neil done to deserve criticism? Lily had her heart stomped on by someone she thought she could trust and Neil is just doing what any father would do, defend and protect his daughter.

Its time to face the facts and realize Cane isnt as perfect as everybody thought he would be! If denial were bullspit, we would be knee deep around here!

Cane fans are correct about one thing, Cane will eventually come out of this smelling like roses. The writers will make it so that he will get the sympathy of the viewers. I for one wont fall for it immeadiatly. Cane will have to work hard to get back into my good graces and many other viewers as well. I do believe in forgiveness and redemption but it has to be earned!


*********And that is the truth.....Well Said**************


Thanks Oreo! Hope you have a good day! Cant wait to see todays episode. (Rickey Ricardo voice)- "Cane! You got some 'splainin to do" LOL!

#36   2009/07/06 08:48AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Charme
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Longhorn the misconception that you and others that oppose Cane have, is that you constantly try to say and believe that his fans think he's perfect. I and I'm sure other fans, never thought or said Cane was perfect (Cane said he wasn't perfect, and was a better person having met and fell in love with Lily). No soap characters are perfect, so we would have to be a little short sighted to think such a thing. I like many characters including my favorites Cane and Lily, flaws and all. Just as any fans of any characters, yes we as fans will defend our character, as that is our right. Furthermore the reason I like Cane is because at the core of this character, he is a decent, kind, and loving person. Him lying about this whole thing doesn't blind me to these facts. The only thing as I've said before that Cane took from these people was love and understanding his background I can in many ways see why he seized the opportunity to have a family and be loved (that's what most of us desire). Also Cane's actions doesn't detract from what others have done and now supposedly their supposed to get a pass because Cane lied and he's the real bad guy (sarcasm). This for me is the one part of the s/l that irks me. In the end yes I like Cane and I forgive, excuse, anyway you want to put his wrongs, because the good for me far out weighs the bad.

In thinking about Neil, he needs to support Lily, but stop babying her. She's a grown woman, let her deal with her husband and her life in general.

#37   2009/07/06 09:39AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Longhornsfan79
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Oh Charme! How I love our back and forth on this issue! You probably dont think Cane is perfect but from others post, some do! All you have to do is go in the Non-Bash Cane Thread and you would think Cane is the second coming of Christ or something!

I agree Cane has redeeming qualities...he didnt take the Chancellor fortune so at least we know he wasnt in it for the money. But, a lie is still a lie and until he can prove himself trustworthy again, he will be a liar in my book! But , I do think he can be redeemed...its just gonna take awhile!

#38   2009/07/06 09:42AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
bobtaild
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Quote Longhornsfan79: I knew all the Cane fans would still be on his side. In their eyes, the man can do no wrong. He could set a homeless shelter on fire on Christmas Eve and the Cane fans would smile and say, "But he had good intentions all along..." And now to top it all off, they are going after Lily and Neil... "If Lily really loved him she would understand....." and "How can Neil judge Cane..." BLAH BLAH BLAH! What have Lily and Neil done to deserve criticism? Lily had her heart stomped on by someone she thought she could trust and Neil is just doing what any father would do, defend and protect his daughter.

Its time to face the facts and realize Cane isnt as perfect as everybody thought he would be! If denial were bullspit, we would be knee deep around here!

Cane fans are correct about one thing, Cane will eventually come out of this smelling like roses. The writers will make it so that he will get the sympathy of the viewers. I for one wont fall for it immeadiatly. Cane will have to work hard to get back into my good graces and many other viewers as well. I do believe in forgiveness and redemption but it has to be earned!

BTW- Cane fans: Please dont hold out hope that Cane is somehow related to ANYONE in GC. He is not. That is not a bad thing! The gene pool in GC has become quite shallow!


I have removed you from the Longhorns fan club. You are not a longhorn. so you must be a fraud as well.

#39   2009/07/06 10:06AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Longhornsfan79
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Quote bobtaild:
Quote Longhornsfan79: I knew all the Cane fans would still be on his side. In their eyes, the man can do no wrong. He could set a homeless shelter on fire on Christmas Eve and the Cane fans would smile and say, "But he had good intentions all along..." And now to top it all off, they are going after Lily and Neil... "If Lily really loved him she would understand....." and "How can Neil judge Cane..." BLAH BLAH BLAH! What have Lily and Neil done to deserve criticism? Lily had her heart stomped on by someone she thought she could trust and Neil is just doing what any father would do, defend and protect his daughter.

Its time to face the facts and realize Cane isnt as perfect as everybody thought he would be! If denial were bullspit, we would be knee deep around here!

Cane fans are correct about one thing, Cane will eventually come out of this smelling like roses. The writers will make it so that he will get the sympathy of the viewers. I for one wont fall for it immeadiatly. Cane will have to work hard to get back into my good graces and many other viewers as well. I do believe in forgiveness and redemption but it has to be earned!

BTW- Cane fans: Please dont hold out hope that Cane is somehow related to ANYONE in GC. He is not. That is not a bad thing! The gene pool in GC has become quite shallow!


I have removed you from the Longhorns fan club. You are not a longhorn. so you must be a fraud as well.


LOL ok....are you really a fishing lure? If not you must be a fraud too!

#40   2009/07/06 10:13AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
bobtaild
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Quote Longhornsfan79:
Quote bobtaild:
Quote Longhornsfan79: I knew all the Cane fans would still be on his side. In their eyes, the man can do no wrong. He could set a homeless shelter on fire on Christmas Eve and the Cane fans would smile and say, "But he had good intentions all along..." And now to top it all off, they are going after Lily and Neil... "If Lily really loved him she would understand....." and "How can Neil judge Cane..." BLAH BLAH BLAH! What have Lily and Neil done to deserve criticism? Lily had her heart stomped on by someone she thought she could trust and Neil is just doing what any father would do, defend and protect his daughter.

Its time to face the facts and realize Cane isnt as perfect as everybody thought he would be! If denial were bullspit, we would be knee deep around here!

Cane fans are correct about one thing, Cane will eventually come out of this smelling like roses. The writers will make it so that he will get the sympathy of the viewers. I for one wont fall for it immeadiatly. Cane will have to work hard to get back into my good graces and many other viewers as well. I do believe in forgiveness and redemption but it has to be earned!

BTW- Cane fans: Please dont hold out hope that Cane is somehow related to ANYONE in GC. He is not. That is not a bad thing! The gene pool in GC has become quite shallow!


I have removed you from the Longhorns fan club. You are not a longhorn. so you must be a fraud as well.


LOL ok....are you really a fishing lure? If not you must be a fraud too!


Okay you caught me, Yeah I am a fraud as well. However, I am a longhorn fan since 1948 and this year hookum.

#41   2009/07/06 10:15AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Charme
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Quote Longhornsfan79: Oh Charme! How I love our back and forth on this issue! You probably dont think Cane is perfect but from others post, some do! All you have to do is go in the Non-Bash Cane Thread and you would think Cane is the second coming of Christ or something!

I agree Cane has redeeming qualities...he didnt take the Chancellor fortune so at least we know he wasnt in it for the money. But, a lie is still a lie and until he can prove himself trustworthy again, he will be a liar in my book! But , I do think he can be redeemed...its just gonna take awhile!


Longhorn my powers of persuasion are working on you You are a Cane/Lane fan (keep your eyes on these words). Give it up and come into the Lane fold, we welcome you with open arms. Seriously Cane is a good guy and I support him, he!! somebody need to (LOL). Lily will come around as soon as she stops listening to her stupid a##, hypocrtical daddy and brother for that matter.

#42   2009/07/06 10:19AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
chelleshell1
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Lilly needs to grow up and stop running to Dad everytime she hits a bump in the road. how many times has she moved back in with dear old dad b/c she didn't want to deal with what life was throwing at her. It's annoying. You want a baby and you can't take care of your own life. It's also annoying that Neil won't let Lilly deal with her own problems. He thinks he has to fix it all.

#43   2009/07/06 10:23AM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
chelleshell1
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Yes but neil doesn't let Lilly run her own life. She a married women and needs to learn to grow up, deal, and make her own decisions. You can't move in with dad everytime life isn't perfect.

#44   2009/07/06 03:11PM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
gotcha
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Quote Oreo123: Both men lied and deceived people they claim to love for their own selfish reasons...PC ran away from his family and attempted to rid himself of his guilt by sending Cane to con them into believing he was the REAL hair and thereby give Cane what he wanted - a family.

Does either Cane of PC feel remorse and regret over what they did. He!! yes........cause they got caught. There is no other reason PC is in GC and no other reason Cane told the truth....they got caught! There is no honor in what either of these two selfish men did. No excuses to justify what they did. One is no better than the other and both need to find a way to heal the broken hearts and restore the trust that so many people who loved them now lost. Not an easy task.,


I have to disagree with you. Cane made several telephone calls to PCIII to tell him Nina was asking questions. PCIII did not tell Cane he was coming to GC to tell the truth. Yes, Cane got caught but only because he did not hear from Philip. If Phillip would have told him he was coming, I think Cane would have told the truth prior to him showing up. I am glad Phillip showed up eventhough Cane has been left taking the brunt of the anger.

#45   2009/07/06 09:10PM
Re: I am on Cane's side. I HATE the kind of man Neil is. (spoiler could be included)
Legacy268
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Quote g4666:
Quote Lilamoor:
Quote EVSCNB:
Quote Lilamoor: I find that even though Cane lied about who he isn't, I cannot stand the self righteousness of Neil, Lily, and Jill. I would rather have a Cane in my life, and I would certainly listen to his explanation. His behavior deserves that at the very least.
Especially Neil. Who the HELL does he think he is. He betrayed Karen just as much and he continues to set himself up as some kind of standard of honesty.
I really hate that kind of man.


You know why I side with Neil, Lily and Jill? Because Cane had more than one chance to just tell the truth. Instead he more or less calls Nina a liar, especially when he knows her child's lie hangs in the balance, and continues the farce. If he told no one, he should have confided in Lily. Yes he does love them all but the fact that he preached to everyone who didn't walk the straight and narrow - Billy!! Amber!! and threatened to take Chloe's child - is outrageous!! No he deserves some punishment.

Cane had loyalty to Philip, and he also finally had a family that is supposed to love him. Family forgives. Cane will be punished. He will end up with NOTHING, because the family he CHOSE for reasons only a very lonely and alone person can understand, is too selfrighteous to understand. And can only "love" in a sick and selfish way. No unconditional love for them. No, only if it serves their purpose. No forgiveness either.


ITA. The Winters family are self-righteous (especially Neil) the one who should keep his mouth shut. Neil cheated on Dru and Karen (he mistreated Karen terribly) yet he has the gall to throw Cane against a wall and tell him to stay away from his daughter. This is too ridiculous to even watch. I loved Neil but Neil has to be fair. It seems everybody's love is conditional. If a person doesn't live up to what they perceive them to be then they are in trouble. That is not love.


Excuse me but Cain was holding Lily and would not let her go when she yelled it several times. This blind allegence to Cain is amazing. He was wrong. He was wrong. Neil is not perfect but in this instance he is not wrong. Lily said I cant stand to be lied to over and over.. Cain took away her choices and he doesnt get immediate forgiveness. It dont work that way

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