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SPOILER TALK & PC3

Started by clicquot1 at 2009/07/02 09:48AM
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#11   2009/07/02 12:30PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
paul_b
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now after a little research i know who pc3 is and find it kinda funny that they would have cane portray him. cane should be what 34 or so according to his passport.
how old in nina and go search on youtube and you will see a video where cricket pakes phillip 4 to see his dad for christmas and phillip 3 looks about 18 or older in that video and that was 20 years ago or so.
shouldnt cane be more like 40ish and if so she got lucky and scored with lilly since she should be pc4's age.

#12   2009/07/02 02:36PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
clicquot1
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Quote MadelynB:
Quote clicquot1: Ok, if ya'll have read Candace's spoiler's for the U.S. show for friday then ya'll know that Cane confesses the truth & PC3 comes back. We do know that through a legitimate spoiler PC3 is gay and confesses that. Candace's spoiler also says that the accident wasn't an ACCIDENT and the policeman riding in the ambulance disappeared. Here's MY theory PHILLIP CHANCELLOR didn't CHANGE his name the WITNESS PROTECTION AGENCY did when they staged the accident(remember there was a policeman riding in the ambulance). They staged his "death" because he was testifying against the mob guys that were holding his gambling markers. What better place to hide someone for years but in the AUSTRALIAN outback. When he met Cane that is why he used the name "LANGLEY" because that is the name he was given. He couldn't let ANYONE know where he was and why because they would be in danger. To me this is the ONLY WAY PC3 can be redeemed because what other reason would you have for letting your loved ones GRIEVE for you for TWENTY years and not see your mom, son, Katherine or even NINA. The government could pull the perfect fake death, EMPTY GRAVE and all.




Good post Clicquot1 and excellent theory. Just wondering why you labeled your post as "spoiler talk" when you clearly state this is your theory. My point is that in my opinion, there is no "spoiler talk" about a theory and you didn't include anything else that was a spoiler. I'm not questioning your intentions and personally, I would have no reason to do so. However, in my opinion, to label your post as "spoiler talk" but never mention a spoiler is somewhat misleading or confusing at the very least. It's also my opinion that when others reply to your post and they wish to use spoiler information — that's okay as long as they can confirm that the information they are using is actually a spoiler (and this is usually done by simply naming the source). You don't have to label your post "spoiler" in order for them to do this — like I said, it's confusing and somewhat misleading when you do this.

Thanks. If you will re-read my post I did include spoilers about PC3 coming back and about PC3 being gay. Those have NOT happened on the U.S. show so in accordance with guidelines I have to post as a spoiler. Please re-read the post.

#13   2009/07/02 02:41PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
clicquot1
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Quote paul_b: now after a little research i know who pc3 is and find it kinda funny that they would have cane portray him. cane should be what 34 or so according to his passport.
how old in nina and go search on youtube and you will see a video where cricket pakes phillip 4 to see his dad for christmas and phillip 3 looks about 18 or older in that video and that was 20 years ago or so.
shouldnt cane be more like 40ish and if so she got lucky and scored with lilly since she should be pc4's age.

Where have you been. Many of us have been complaining about this forever. Up until just recently both PC3 and Cane were 32 & 33 which would be impossible because PC3 was supposed to be 18 or 19 when he "died" 20 years ago plus his kid would now be 20 21. TPTB have finally SORA'd PC3 but not Cane. PC3 is now 38 just like NINA.

#14   2009/07/02 02:51PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
shorty725
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Quote ebola:
Quote mdtuttle:
Quote Oreo123: Good theory Clicquot! That could work....but I have to agree with another poster..Hogan isn't that clever. Fact is there have been more creative explanations for Cane's DNA match to Billy than the excuse he came up with. That "Street Kid Nobody" isn't washing after the cheek swab but it is what we have to accept. THis PLOT HOLE WASN'T PLUGGED TO WELL AND IS LEAKING!!!

Anyway.....Cane is just another person in GC who needs intense therapy!! LOL


I agree that this is a great theory, with the exception of how they are going to explain the DNA match with Billy. Since he couldn't be ruled out as DEila's dad. I wonder if they will even addres that or just sweep it under the rug and hope we forget about it.

There are two ways I can think of that they might be able to address it. Granted they are a little far out there, but then so is the rest of this story line.

Theroy 1) Jill actually gave birth to twin boys and was too out of it to realize ( I know I said it was far out) Phillip was one and Cane was the other. KAthrine had memoried of giving Phillip away, perhaps they child she gave away was actually Cane.

Theory 2) John may have in his travels met Cane's real mother in Australia. He traveled the world for buisness in his younger years. Maybe Cane is the result of a breif affiar. At the time historically the Abbotts were not a core family, they didn't becoma a central family for a while after the Phillip/ Jill/ Kathrine triangle so it is possible. That would explain why Cane and Billy have such a simular DNA profile because they may not have the same mother but the same father.


The reason that Cane and Billy had simular DNA is that Cane was using the blood samples that Phillip had given him for all the DNA tests.


If we are to believe that Cane used PC3's blood for Delia's DNA test, then why didn't the lab tell them at that time that the blood was frozen like this lab tech did? Why wait until TB signed a contract to write this ridiculous storyline. None of these sorry s/l's make any sense.

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#15   2009/07/02 02:58PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
g4666
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Quote shorty725:
Quote ebola:
Quote mdtuttle:
Quote Oreo123: Good theory Clicquot! That could work....but I have to agree with another poster..Hogan isn't that clever. Fact is there have been more creative explanations for Cane's DNA match to Billy than the excuse he came up with. That "Street Kid Nobody" isn't washing after the cheek swab but it is what we have to accept. THis PLOT HOLE WASN'T PLUGGED TO WELL AND IS LEAKING!!!

Anyway.....Cane is just another person in GC who needs intense therapy!! LOL


I agree that this is a great theory, with the exception of how they are going to explain the DNA match with Billy. Since he couldn't be ruled out as DEila's dad. I wonder if they will even addres that or just sweep it under the rug and hope we forget about it.

There are two ways I can think of that they might be able to address it. Granted they are a little far out there, but then so is the rest of this story line.

Theroy 1) Jill actually gave birth to twin boys and was too out of it to realize ( I know I said it was far out) Phillip was one and Cane was the other. KAthrine had memoried of giving Phillip away, perhaps they child she gave away was actually Cane.

Theory 2) John may have in his travels met Cane's real mother in Australia. He traveled the world for buisness in his younger years. Maybe Cane is the result of a breif affiar. At the time historically the Abbotts were not a core family, they didn't becoma a central family for a while after the Phillip/ Jill/ Kathrine triangle so it is possible. That would explain why Cane and Billy have such a simular DNA profile because they may not have the same mother but the same father.


The reason that Cane and Billy had simular DNA is that Cane was using the blood samples that Phillip had given him for all the DNA tests.


If we are to believe that Cane used PC3's blood for Delia's DNA test, then why didn't the lab tell them at that time that the blood was frozen like this lab tech did? Why wait until TB signed a contract to write this ridiculous storyline. None of these sorry s/l's make any sense.


ITA. It is just ridiculous. And if anyone can remember, we saw Cane's mouth swabbed. The lab tech said he only need a cheek swab from Cane but Chloe's blood was drawn. This is just too far out there and the writers have no shame. They write any garbage and pass it off on the viewers like we are idiots.

#16   2009/07/02 03:21PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
historychick33
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I agree that this is getting pretty ridiculous and it is a little insulting that the writers don't think we catch on to these things or care enough to explain them well.

Also, I'm upset because I did like Cane and I was happy when Cane and Lily got back together. Now I know this a soap opera and happiness does not last long for any particular person HOWEVER, I'm upset because I hate that they are making Cane (who was close to perfect) into a bad guy. So I hope your theory is right clicquot1 about maybe witness protection AND john abbot affair so Cane can still have noble intentions and it would help explain the cheek swab.

Hope this turns out better than its starting

#17   2009/07/02 04:06PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
twocentsworth
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So, if what we are about to see is the way it is, then how could the exhumation of the body the first time, when William Bardwell supervised it have been OK??? Wouldn't there have been "NO BODY" in his grave at that time, as well??? Yet nothing was said at that time...Also, since Phillip is actually alive, then Katherine did NOT switch any baby at all...it was all in her memory-clogged and confused head all along...

#18   2009/07/02 04:34PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
STKITTS3
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Quote mdtuttle:
Quote Oreo123: Good theory Clicquot! That could work....but I have to agree with another poster..Hogan isn't that clever. Fact is there have been more creative explanations for Cane's DNA match to Billy than the excuse he came up with. That "Street Kid Nobody" isn't washing after the cheek swab but it is what we have to accept. THis PLOT HOLE WASN'T PLUGGED TO WELL AND IS LEAKING!!!

Anyway.....Cane is just another person in GC who needs intense therapy!! LOL


I agree that this is a great theory, with the exception of how they are going to explain the DNA match with Billy. Since he couldn't be ruled out as DEila's dad. I wonder if they will even addres that or just sweep it under the rug and hope we forget about it.

There are two ways I can think of that they might be able to address it. Granted they are a little far out there, but then so is the rest of this story line.

Theroy 1) Jill actually gave birth to twin boys and was too out of it to realize ( I know I said it was far out) Phillip was one and Cane was the other. KAthrine had memoried of giving Phillip away, perhaps they child she gave away was actually Cane.

Theory 2) John may have in his travels met Cane's real mother in Australia. He traveled the world for buisness in his younger years. Maybe Cane is the result of a breif affiar. At the time historically the Abbotts were not a core family, they didn't becoma a central family for a while after the Phillip/ Jill/ Kathrine triangle so it is possible. That would explain why Cane and Billy have such a simular DNA profile because they may not have the same mother but the same father.




I thought when Canes DNA came back,all It said was he could not be ruled out, I don't think it actually stated he was Cordelia's father, I also think the baby switch Katherine talks about never happened,I believe Jill is both Billy and Phillip's mother... I don't think Cane is related to the Chancellors or the Abbott's.. of course I could also be wrong..

#19   2009/07/02 04:38PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
twocentsworth
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Quote STKITTS3:
Quote mdtuttle:
Quote Oreo123: Good theory Clicquot! That could work....but I have to agree with another poster..Hogan isn't that clever. Fact is there have been more creative explanations for Cane's DNA match to Billy than the excuse he came up with. That "Street Kid Nobody" isn't washing after the cheek swab but it is what we have to accept. THis PLOT HOLE WASN'T PLUGGED TO WELL AND IS LEAKING!!!

Anyway.....Cane is just another person in GC who needs intense therapy!! LOL


I agree that this is a great theory, with the exception of how they are going to explain the DNA match with Billy. Since he couldn't be ruled out as DEila's dad. I wonder if they will even addres that or just sweep it under the rug and hope we forget about it.

There are two ways I can think of that they might be able to address it. Granted they are a little far out there, but then so is the rest of this story line.

Theroy 1) Jill actually gave birth to twin boys and was too out of it to realize ( I know I said it was far out) Phillip was one and Cane was the other. KAthrine had memoried of giving Phillip away, perhaps they child she gave away was actually Cane.

Theory 2) John may have in his travels met Cane's real mother in Australia. He traveled the world for buisness in his younger years. Maybe Cane is the result of a breif affiar. At the time historically the Abbotts were not a core family, they didn't becoma a central family for a while after the Phillip/ Jill/ Kathrine triangle so it is possible. That would explain why Cane and Billy have such a simular DNA profile because they may not have the same mother but the same father.




I thought when Canes DNA came back,all It said was he could not be ruled out, I don't think it actually stated he was Cordelia's father, I also think the baby switch Katherine talks about never happened,I believe Jill is both Billy and Phillip's mother... I don't think Cane is related to the Chancellors or the Abbott's.. of course I could also be wrong..



I agree with you...since Jill is Billy and Phillip's mother, would this change the fact that Billy and Mac aren't related in any way? I don't think it will...

#20   2009/07/02 04:50PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
paul_b
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Quote clicquot1:
Quote paul_b: now after a little research i know who pc3 is and find it kinda funny that they would have cane portray him. cane should be what 34 or so according to his passport.
how old in nina and go search on youtube and you will see a video where cricket pakes phillip 4 to see his dad for christmas and phillip 3 looks about 18 or older in that video and that was 20 years ago or so.
shouldnt cane be more like 40ish and if so she got lucky and scored with lilly since she should be pc4's age.

Where have you been. Many of us have been complaining about this forever. Up until just recently both PC3 and Cane were 32 & 33 which would be impossible because PC3 was supposed to be 18 or 19 when he "died" 20 years ago plus his kid would now be 20 21. TPTB have finally SORA'd PC3 but not Cane. PC3 is now 38 just like NINA.



thanks for explainging that. the age thing was what was confusing me.
where have i been well up till just the other day i cound not get registered. finally hit the correct button i guess because here i am.
this has got to be the worst scripted s/l that i have seen.

#21   2009/07/02 05:20PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
STKITTS3
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Quote twocentsworth:
Quote STKITTS3:
Quote mdtuttle:
Quote Oreo123: Good theory Clicquot! That could work....but I have to agree with another poster..Hogan isn't that clever. Fact is there have been more creative explanations for Cane's DNA match to Billy than the excuse he came up with. That "Street Kid Nobody" isn't washing after the cheek swab but it is what we have to accept. THis PLOT HOLE WASN'T PLUGGED TO WELL AND IS LEAKING!!!

Anyway.....Cane is just another person in GC who needs intense therapy!! LOL


I agree that this is a great theory, with the exception of how they are going to explain the DNA match with Billy. Since he couldn't be ruled out as DEila's dad. I wonder if they will even addres that or just sweep it under the rug and hope we forget about it.

There are two ways I can think of that they might be able to address it. Granted they are a little far out there, but then so is the rest of this story line.

Theroy 1) Jill actually gave birth to twin boys and was too out of it to realize ( I know I said it was far out) Phillip was one and Cane was the other. KAthrine had memoried of giving Phillip away, perhaps they child she gave away was actually Cane.

Theory 2) John may have in his travels met Cane's real mother in Australia. He traveled the world for buisness in his younger years. Maybe Cane is the result of a breif affiar. At the time historically the Abbotts were not a core family, they didn't becoma a central family for a while after the Phillip/ Jill/ Kathrine triangle so it is possible. That would explain why Cane and Billy have such a simular DNA profile because they may not have the same mother but the same father.




I thought when Canes DNA came back,all It said was he could not be ruled out, I don't think it actually stated he was Cordelia's father, I also think the baby switch Katherine talks about never happened,I believe Jill is both Billy and Phillip's mother... I don't think Cane is related to the Chancellors or the Abbott's.. of course I could also be wrong..



I agree with you...since Jill is Billy and Phillip's mother, would this change the fact that Billy and Mac aren't related in any way? I don't think it will...



No.. Mac and Billy are not related, Katherine is Mac grandmother, but not Billy's, remember Jill is not related to Katerine in any way..

#22   2009/07/02 05:21PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
scatvar17
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Ha Ha!! I thought a little harsh critique!!!

#23   2009/07/02 06:33PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
greyhill
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Cane did have a saliva swab for the paternity test. Suppose he had somehow done the switcheroo with this test. When the results came back saying he wasn't ruled out, he would have asked for another test and then used his own saliva, thus ruling him out. He didn't do this so he must have used his own saliva and stepped up when he got the results. Therefore, he must be related to Billy. Could he be a long lost Abbott?


The other part of the story line that has been totally ignored is who is Katherine's daughter or Jill's biological mother?

It would be cool if Cane is also related to Katherine through his mother who turns out to be Katherine's daughter, but at the rate this story is going, I doubt it. They ruined a cool character in Cane by doing this (or they've just dragged him down to the level of everyone else)

#24   2009/07/02 10:11PM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
Daisy Jane
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Quote clicquot1: Ok, if ya'll have read Candace's spoiler's for the U.S. show for friday then ya'll know that Cane confesses the truth & PC3 comes back. We do know that through a legitimate spoiler PC3 is gay and confesses that. Candace's spoiler also says that the accident wasn't an ACCIDENT and the policeman riding in the ambulance disappeared. Here's MY theory PHILLIP CHANCELLOR didn't CHANGE his name the WITNESS PROTECTION AGENCY did when they staged the accident(remember there was a policeman riding in the ambulance). They staged his "death" because he was testifying against the mob guys that were holding his gambling markers. What better place to hide someone for years but in the AUSTRALIAN outback. When he met Cane that is why he used the name "LANGLEY" because that is the name he was given. He couldn't let ANYONE know where he was and why because they would be in danger. To me this is the ONLY WAY PC3 can be redeemed because what other reason would you have for letting your loved ones GRIEVE for you for TWENTY years and not see your mom, son, Katherine or even NINA. The government could pull the perfect fake death, EMPTY GRAVE and all.


The gay storyline theory I couldn't buy for PC3 to stay away all those years and miss being in his son's life. But I could buy your theory!!!

It would make it more believable if it was tied in with Bobby Marsino and the mob. Remember Bobby and Brittany were married at the Chancellor Estate? Bobby was also in the protection program but ended up getting killed by a hit-and-run driver.

It could also explain why William Bardwell didn't let them know there was no body in the first exhumation and why he never prosecuted Katherine for the baby swap. William was such an honest character and did everything by the book.

At one time Billy got messed up in gambling and they came after him. They paid off his debts and sent him to Hong Kong to get him away from the bad guys.

I love your theory, thanks!!!

#25   2009/07/03 11:13AM
Re: SPOILER TALK & PC3
MadelynB
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Quote clicquot1:
Quote MadelynB:
Quote clicquot1: Ok, if ya'll have read Candace's spoiler's for the U.S. show for friday then ya'll know that Cane confesses the truth & PC3 comes back. We do know that through a legitimate spoiler PC3 is gay and confesses that. Candace's spoiler also says that the accident wasn't an ACCIDENT and the policeman riding in the ambulance disappeared. Here's MY theory PHILLIP CHANCELLOR didn't CHANGE his name the WITNESS PROTECTION AGENCY did when they staged the accident(remember there was a policeman riding in the ambulance). They staged his "death" because he was testifying against the mob guys that were holding his gambling markers. What better place to hide someone for years but in the AUSTRALIAN outback. When he met Cane that is why he used the name "LANGLEY" because that is the name he was given. He couldn't let ANYONE know where he was and why because they would be in danger. To me this is the ONLY WAY PC3 can be redeemed because what other reason would you have for letting your loved ones GRIEVE for you for TWENTY years and not see your mom, son, Katherine or even NINA. The government could pull the perfect fake death, EMPTY GRAVE and all.




Good post Clicquot1 and excellent theory. Just wondering why you labeled your post as "spoiler talk" when you clearly state this is your theory. My point is that in my opinion, there is no "spoiler talk" about a theory and you didn't include anything else that was a spoiler. I'm not questioning your intentions and personally, I would have no reason to do so. However, in my opinion, to label your post as "spoiler talk" but never mention a spoiler is somewhat misleading or confusing at the very least. It's also my opinion that when others reply to your post and they wish to use spoiler information — that's okay as long as they can confirm that the information they are using is actually a spoiler (and this is usually done by simply naming the source). You don't have to label your post "spoiler" in order for them to do this — like I said, it's confusing and somewhat misleading when you do this.

Thanks. If you will re-read my post I did include spoilers about PC3 coming back and about PC3 being gay. Those have NOT happened on the U.S. show so in accordance with guidelines I have to post as a spoiler. Please re-read the post.



I remember that Candace wrote a post giving the instructions to put the word "spoiler" in the title of our posts if we want to share a scoop on something that has not yet appeared in a U.S. episode. In addition to this evidently being a decision at Soaps.com — it was understandably pointed out by Candace that some viewers don't want to know details of a show in advance. Correct me if I'm wrong but what's interesting is that there is nothing in the guidelines that Soaps.com ask us to read before posting about the word "spoiler" having to be in the title of your posts if you want to share information that has yet to appear in a U.S. episode. However, Soaps.com does instruct us to read the News Room before posting. There is a Y&R blog posted in the News Room dated June 19 and is archived now but I remember reading it when it was originally posted. It references the Soap.com chat with Lauralee Bell (actress who played Cricket/Christine). The posted interview makes it clear (not just from Lauralee but from soaps.com) that Phillip III is returning to GC (so it's my understanding that as of this date, this information is no longer a spoiler). By the way,this blog was written by Candace and while there is no mention of Phillip being gay, I too have read the other messages posting that upon his return to GC he will also announce that he is gay. It didn't happen in today's episode, but I assume the so-called spoiler if still true. In my opinion, since the information reported in the News Room confirming the spoilers about Phillip returning to GC is so close to what you reported as a spoiler, I now consider it a minor detail that it is not a spoiler instead of questioning whether or not it was misleading as I originally concluded. Thanks again for clarifying. Have a happy 4th!

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