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MaryJane's "prior life"...spoiler talk

Started by twocentsworth at 2009/06/30 04:00PM
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#1   2009/06/30 04:00PM
MaryJane's
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Spoilers are out that viewers will finally be in on MaryJane shown to be Paul's sister Patti Williams...previously involved with Jack, losing his child, attempting to murder him, leaving town...I really didn't watch in the early days of Patti Williams and didn't know had a sister...what I'd like to know is if Patti was as conniving, evil-minded, dramatic, drastic and "fatal-attractionistic" as she is today as MJ??? If she was as forthright (for a Soap character) as she is today, she probably would not have lost Jack to some other "mistress" at the time...Jack would have been afraid, but, for a Soap lover, she would have hit a home run...I think instead, she was weak, and that's what lead Jack to stray to begin all of this...today, she's seeking revenge, but to hurt him or win his heart?? She really has a funny way of showing affection!!!

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#2   2009/06/30 04:09PM
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Patti Williams was sweet, naive, young, happy-go-lucky kind of girl.

The only reason Jack married her was to become the President of Jabot. He and Diane had sex on the eve of his wedding and thereafter. Like I said before, she was young and naive, and clueless that Jack would cheat on her.

Prior to marrying Jack, there was no indication of Patti like she is now. She was a teen who fell in love with the playboy Jack. She gave Jack her virginity at 18. She had a mental breakdown after she saw Jack and Diane having sex then it was one thing after another. She totally flipped out and has gone off the deep-end.

#3   2009/06/30 04:18PM
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Quote Daisy Jane: Patti Williams was sweet, naive, young, happy-go-lucky kind of girl.

The only reason Jack married her was to become the President of Jabot. He and Diane had sex on the eve of his wedding and thereafter. Like I said before, she was young and naive, and clueless that Jack would cheat on her.

Prior to marrying Jack, there was no indication of Patti like she is now. She was a teen who fell in love with the playboy Jack. She gave Jack her virginity at 18. She had a mental breakdown after she saw Jack and Diane having sex then it was one thing after another. She totally flipped out and has gone off the deep-end.



Thanks DaisyJane for the "history lesson", much appreciated...I sort of knew she was young and naive, but guess all the mental anguish she endured, drove her literally "nuts"...and killing animals (her stuffed cat and the black bird she threw thru Phyllis' window!!!) is a stage mental people usually have before killing people...I sure hope little innocent Summer doesn't become her victim...look out GC residents!!!

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#4   2009/06/30 04:23PM
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Quote twocentsworth: Spoilers are out that viewers will finally be in on MaryJane shown to be Paul's sister Patti Williams...previously involved with Jack, losing his child, attempting to murder him, leaving town...I really didn't watch in the early days of Patti Williams and didn't know had a sister...what I'd like to know is if Patti was as conniving, evil-minded, dramatic, drastic and "fatal-attractionistic" as she is today as MJ??? If she was as forthright (for a Soap character) as she is today, should probably would not have lost Jack to some other "mistress" at the time...Jack would have been afraid, but, for a Soap lover, she would have hit a home run...I think instead, she was weak, and that's what lead Jack to stray to begin all of this...today, she's seeking revenge, but to hurt him or win his heart?? She really has a funny way of showing affection!!!

JACK was a conniving, manipulative, womanizing SLEEZE back then who was only interested in his own pleasure. The reason he had affairs is because he was a womanizer and playboy who didn't even WANT to be married. He only married her because JOHN was pressuring him to get married, grow up and be responsible. John promised him the PRESIDENCY of JABOT if he got made and became a responsible man. Patti was a sweet, young, Catholic girl who was still a virgin when she met Jack. She was involved with Danny Romalotti at the time. Jack took her virginity and was going to dump her but ended up marrying her instead. In an ode or tribute to the past ole smilin Jack did the same thing that BILLY did he had a "tryst" with Diane Jenkins on the day of his WEDDING. Hmmmmmmmmmm, must run in the family. He also bedded his father's wife(JILL) but that was much later. Jack's such a hypocrite. Anyway, back to Jack. Jack is having sex with DJ one night in his office and Patti catches them and runs out tripping over a plant or ladder(can't remember) and miscarries the baby. She wants to have another baby, he says SURE. Ole smilin Jack then gets on the phone & arranges to have a VASECTOMY and she overhears the conversation. So, Patti goes into his office threatening to kill herself because she is so distraught. Jack starts pleading with her not to off herself and to shoot HIM instead. So "SHE DOES" THREE TIMES. She goes into a fuege state and doesn't remember anything. Her dad is the police Chief and has to have her arrested, trial, and she gets off. Leaves town, comes back to try to get back w/DR & he has married Traci by this time. Leaves town to go to be near her brother Steve in Washington D.C. (1984) Sorry, Daisy Jane I didn't know you were on or I wouldn't have posted. We were probably posting at the same time. SORRY......................................................

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#5   2009/06/30 04:30PM
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Quote twocentsworth: Spoilers are out that viewers will finally be in on MaryJane shown to be Paul's sister Patti Williams...previously involved with Jack, losing his child, attempting to murder him, leaving town...I really didn't watch in the early days of Patti Williams and didn't know had a sister...what I'd like to know is if Patti was as conniving, evil-minded, dramatic, drastic and "fatal-attractionistic" as she is today as MJ??? If she was as forthright (for a Soap character) as she is today, should probably would not have lost Jack to some other "mistress" at the time...Jack would have been afraid, but, for a Soap lover, she would have hit a home run...I think instead, she was weak, and that's what lead Jack to stray to begin all of this...today, she's seeking revenge, but to hurt him or win his heart?? She really has a funny way of showing affection!!!

JACK was a conniving, manipulative, womanizing SLEEZE back then who was only interested in his own pleasure. The reason he had affairs is because he was a womanizer and playboy who didn't even WANT to be married. He only married her because JOHN was pressuring him to get married, grow up and be responsible. John promised him the PRESIDENCY of JABOT if he got made and became a responsible man. Patti was a sweet, young, Catholic girl who was still a virgin when she met Jack. She was involved with Danny Romalotti at the time. Jack took her virginity and was going to dump her but ended up marrying her instead. In an ode or tribute to the past ole smilin Jack did the same thing that BILLY did he had a "tryst" with Diane Jenkins on the day of his WEDDING. Hmmmmmmmmmm, must run in the family. He also bedded his father's wife(JILL) but that was much later. Jack's such a hypocrite. Anyway, back to Jack. Jack is having sex with DJ one night in his office and Patti catches them and runs out tripping over a plant or ladder(can't remember) and miscarries the baby. She wants to have another baby, he says SURE. Ole smilin Jack then gets on the phone & arranges to have a VASECTOMY and she overhears the conversation. So, Patti goes into his office threatening to kill herself because she is so distraught. Jack starts pleading with her not to off herself and to shoot HIM instead. So "SHE DOES" THREE TIMES. She goes into a fuege state and doesn't remember anything. Her dad is the police Chief and has to have her arrested, trial, and she gets off. Leaves town, comes back to try to get back w/DR & he has married Traci by this time. Leaves town to go to be near her brother Steve in Washington D.C. (1984) Sorry, Daisy Jane I didn't know you were on or I wouldn't have posted. We were probably posting at the same time. SORRY......................................................


HA! I remember all of that. Good times! It has taken AGES for paul to be able to even look at jack without throwing up a little in the back of his mouth!

#6   2009/06/30 04:31PM
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Quote twocentsworth: Spoilers are out that viewers will finally be in on MaryJane shown to be Paul's sister Patti Williams...previously involved with Jack, losing his child, attempting to murder him, leaving town...I really didn't watch in the early days of Patti Williams and didn't know had a sister...what I'd like to know is if Patti was as conniving, evil-minded, dramatic, drastic and "fatal-attractionistic" as she is today as MJ??? If she was as forthright (for a Soap character) as she is today, should probably would not have lost Jack to some other "mistress" at the time...Jack would have been afraid, but, for a Soap lover, she would have hit a home run...I think instead, she was weak, and that's what lead Jack to stray to begin all of this...today, she's seeking revenge, but to hurt him or win his heart?? She really has a funny way of showing affection!!!

JACK was a conniving, manipulative, womanizing SLEEZE back then who was only interested in his own pleasure. The reason he had affairs is because he was a womanizer and playboy who didn't even WANT to be married. He only married her because JOHN was pressuring him to get married, grow up and be responsible. John promised him the PRESIDENCY of JABOT if he got made and became a responsible man. Patti was a sweet, young, Catholic girl who was still a virgin when she met Jack. She was involved with Danny Romalotti at the time. Jack took her virginity and was going to dump her but ended up marrying her instead. In an ode or tribute to the past ole smilin Jack did the same thing that BILLY did he had a "tryst" with Diane Jenkins on the day of his WEDDING. Hmmmmmmmmmm, must run in the family. He also bedded his father's wife(JILL) but that was much later. Jack's such a hypocrite. Anyway, back to Jack. Jack is having sex with DJ one night in his office and Patti catches them and runs out tripping over a plant or ladder(can't remember) and miscarries the baby. She wants to have another baby, he says SURE. Ole smilin Jack then gets on the phone & arranges to have a VASECTOMY and she overhears the conversation. So, Patti goes into his office threatening to kill herself because she is so distraught. Jack starts pleading with her not to off herself and to shoot HIM instead. So "SHE DOES" THREE TIMES. She goes into a fuege state and doesn't remember anything. Her dad is the police Chief and has to have her arrested, trial, and she gets off. Leaves town, comes back to try to get back w/DR & he has married Traci by this time. Leaves town to go to be near her brother Steve in Washington D.C. (1984) Sorry, Daisy Jane I didn't know you were on or I wouldn't have posted. We were probably posting at the same time. SORRY......................................................



Oh wow, thank you also!!! This is great...some history I'd never seen...guess this week (on July 2, US show), MJ will think back to her younger days (as a young, naive Patti W) and we will indeed find out more about her agenda...what will be very interesting is what Paul will have to say about his "beloved sister Patti" and the horrid creature she has been morphed into (compliments ala TGVN, no less!!) Revenge is a terrible thing to possess!!!

#7   2009/06/30 04:33PM
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Quote twocentsworth: Spoilers are out that viewers will finally be in on MaryJane shown to be Paul's sister Patti Williams...previously involved with Jack, losing his child, attempting to murder him, leaving town...I really didn't watch in the early days of Patti Williams and didn't know had a sister...what I'd like to know is if Patti was as conniving, evil-minded, dramatic, drastic and "fatal-attractionistic" as she is today as MJ??? If she was as forthright (for a Soap character) as she is today, should probably would not have lost Jack to some other "mistress" at the time...Jack would have been afraid, but, for a Soap lover, she would have hit a home run...I think instead, she was weak, and that's what lead Jack to stray to begin all of this...today, she's seeking revenge, but to hurt him or win his heart?? She really has a funny way of showing affection!!!

JACK was a conniving, manipulative, womanizing SLEEZE back then who was only interested in his own pleasure. The reason he had affairs is because he was a womanizer and playboy who didn't even WANT to be married. He only married her because JOHN was pressuring him to get married, grow up and be responsible. John promised him the PRESIDENCY of JABOT if he got made and became a responsible man. Patti was a sweet, young, Catholic girl who was still a virgin when she met Jack. She was involved with Danny Romalotti at the time. Jack took her virginity and was going to dump her but ended up marrying her instead. In an ode or tribute to the past ole smilin Jack did the same thing that BILLY did he had a "tryst" with Diane Jenkins on the day of his WEDDING. Hmmmmmmmmmm, must run in the family. He also bedded his father's wife(JILL) but that was much later. Jack's such a hypocrite. Anyway, back to Jack. Jack is having sex with DJ one night in his office and Patti catches them and runs out tripping over a plant or ladder(can't remember) and miscarries the baby. She wants to have another baby, he says SURE. Ole smilin Jack then gets on the phone & arranges to have a VASECTOMY and she overhears the conversation. So, Patti goes into his office threatening to kill herself because she is so distraught. Jack starts pleading with her not to off herself and to shoot HIM instead. So "SHE DOES" THREE TIMES. She goes into a fuege state and doesn't remember anything. Her dad is the police Chief and has to have her arrested, trial, and she gets off. Leaves town, comes back to try to get back w/DR & he has married Traci by this time. Leaves town to go to be near her brother Steve in Washington D.C. (1984) Sorry, Daisy Jane I didn't know you were on or I wouldn't have posted. We were probably posting at the same time. SORRY......................................................


HA! I remember all of that. Good times! It has taken AGES for paul to be able to even look at jack without throwing up a little in the back of his mouth!

Paul should have KICKED his sorry AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ all over Jabot and then KICKED his sorry AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ again just for the fun of it. Terry Lester played an EVIL Jack............................................

#8   2009/06/30 04:51PM
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Quote twocentsworth: Spoilers are out that viewers will finally be in on MaryJane shown to be Paul's sister Patti Williams...previously involved with Jack, losing his child, attempting to murder him, leaving town...I really didn't watch in the early days of Patti Williams and didn't know had a sister...what I'd like to know is if Patti was as conniving, evil-minded, dramatic, drastic and "fatal-attractionistic" as she is today as MJ??? If she was as forthright (for a Soap character) as she is today, should probably would not have lost Jack to some other "mistress" at the time...Jack would have been afraid, but, for a Soap lover, she would have hit a home run...I think instead, she was weak, and that's what lead Jack to stray to begin all of this...today, she's seeking revenge, but to hurt him or win his heart?? She really has a funny way of showing affection!!!

JACK was a conniving, manipulative, womanizing SLEEZE back then who was only interested in his own pleasure. The reason he had affairs is because he was a womanizer and playboy who didn't even WANT to be married. He only married her because JOHN was pressuring him to get married, grow up and be responsible. John promised him the PRESIDENCY of JABOT if he got made and became a responsible man. Patti was a sweet, young, Catholic girl who was still a virgin when she met Jack. She was involved with Danny Romalotti at the time. Jack took her virginity and was going to dump her but ended up marrying her instead. In an ode or tribute to the past ole smilin Jack did the same thing that BILLY did he had a "tryst" with Diane Jenkins on the day of his WEDDING. Hmmmmmmmmmm, must run in the family. He also bedded his father's wife(JILL) but that was much later. Jack's such a hypocrite. Anyway, back to Jack. Jack is having sex with DJ one night in his office and Patti catches them and runs out tripping over a plant or ladder(can't remember) and miscarries the baby. She wants to have another baby, he says SURE. Ole smilin Jack then gets on the phone & arranges to have a VASECTOMY and she overhears the conversation. So, Patti goes into his office threatening to kill herself because she is so distraught. Jack starts pleading with her not to off herself and to shoot HIM instead. So "SHE DOES" THREE TIMES. She goes into a fuege state and doesn't remember anything. Her dad is the police Chief and has to have her arrested, trial, and she gets off. Leaves town, comes back to try to get back w/DR & he has married Traci by this time. Leaves town to go to be near her brother Steve in Washington D.C. (1984) Sorry, Daisy Jane I didn't know you were on or I wouldn't have posted. We were probably posting at the same time. SORRY......................................................


HA! I remember all of that. Good times! It has taken AGES for paul to be able to even look at jack without throwing up a little in the back of his mouth!

Paul should have KICKED his sorry AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ all over Jabot and then KICKED his sorry AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ again just for the fun of it. Terry Lester played an EVIL Jack............................................



Wonder if "MaryJane"'s flashbacks will include Terry Lester as Jack or if currenct Jack will do some flashback epi's to bring the history??? Cast list shows current Jack has played the role 20 yrs and Terry played him 9 yrs...Thanks for the info...

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#9   2009/06/30 04:56PM
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Quote twocentsworth:
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Quote twocentsworth: Spoilers are out that viewers will finally be in on MaryJane shown to be Paul's sister Patti Williams...previously involved with Jack, losing his child, attempting to murder him, leaving town...I really didn't watch in the early days of Patti Williams and didn't know had a sister...what I'd like to know is if Patti was as conniving, evil-minded, dramatic, drastic and "fatal-attractionistic" as she is today as MJ??? If she was as forthright (for a Soap character) as she is today, should probably would not have lost Jack to some other "mistress" at the time...Jack would have been afraid, but, for a Soap lover, she would have hit a home run...I think instead, she was weak, and that's what lead Jack to stray to begin all of this...today, she's seeking revenge, but to hurt him or win his heart?? She really has a funny way of showing affection!!!

JACK was a conniving, manipulative, womanizing SLEEZE back then who was only interested in his own pleasure. The reason he had affairs is because he was a womanizer and playboy who didn't even WANT to be married. He only married her because JOHN was pressuring him to get married, grow up and be responsible. John promised him the PRESIDENCY of JABOT if he got made and became a responsible man. Patti was a sweet, young, Catholic girl who was still a virgin when she met Jack. She was involved with Danny Romalotti at the time. Jack took her virginity and was going to dump her but ended up marrying her instead. In an ode or tribute to the past ole smilin Jack did the same thing that BILLY did he had a "tryst" with Diane Jenkins on the day of his WEDDING. Hmmmmmmmmmm, must run in the family. He also bedded his father's wife(JILL) but that was much later. Jack's such a hypocrite. Anyway, back to Jack. Jack is having sex with DJ one night in his office and Patti catches them and runs out tripping over a plant or ladder(can't remember) and miscarries the baby. She wants to have another baby, he says SURE. Ole smilin Jack then gets on the phone & arranges to have a VASECTOMY and she overhears the conversation. So, Patti goes into his office threatening to kill herself because she is so distraught. Jack starts pleading with her not to off herself and to shoot HIM instead. So "SHE DOES" THREE TIMES. She goes into a fuege state and doesn't remember anything. Her dad is the police Chief and has to have her arrested, trial, and she gets off. Leaves town, comes back to try to get back w/DR & he has married Traci by this time. Leaves town to go to be near her brother Steve in Washington D.C. (1984) Sorry, Daisy Jane I didn't know you were on or I wouldn't have posted. We were probably posting at the same time. SORRY......................................................


HA! I remember all of that. Good times! It has taken AGES for paul to be able to even look at jack without throwing up a little in the back of his mouth!

Paul should have KICKED his sorry AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ all over Jabot and then KICKED his sorry AZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ again just for the fun of it. Terry Lester played an EVIL Jack............................................



Wonder if "MaryJane"'s flashbacks will include Terry Lester as Jack or if currenct Jack will do some flashback epi's to bring the history??? Cast list shows current Jack has played the role 20 yrs and Terry played him 9 yrs...Thanks for the info...

Sadly, Terry Lester died a few years back. He played a GREAT VILLIAN.............................................

#10   2009/06/30 07:09PM
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Quote twocentsworth: Spoilers are out that viewers will finally be in on MaryJane shown to be Paul's sister Patti Williams...previously involved with Jack, losing his child, attempting to murder him, leaving town...I really didn't watch in the early days of Patti Williams and didn't know had a sister...what I'd like to know is if Patti was as conniving, evil-minded, dramatic, drastic and "fatal-attractionistic" as she is today as MJ??? If she was as forthright (for a Soap character) as she is today, should probably would not have lost Jack to some other "mistress" at the time...Jack would have been afraid, but, for a Soap lover, she would have hit a home run...I think instead, she was weak, and that's what lead Jack to stray to begin all of this...today, she's seeking revenge, but to hurt him or win his heart?? She really has a funny way of showing affection!!!

JACK was a conniving, manipulative, womanizing SLEEZE back then who was only interested in his own pleasure. The reason he had affairs is because he was a womanizer and playboy who didn't even WANT to be married. He only married her because JOHN was pressuring him to get married, grow up and be responsible. John promised him the PRESIDENCY of JABOT if he got made and became a responsible man. Patti was a sweet, young, Catholic girl who was still a virgin when she met Jack. She was involved with Danny Romalotti at the time. Jack took her virginity and was going to dump her but ended up marrying her instead. In an ode or tribute to the past ole smilin Jack did the same thing that BILLY did he had a "tryst" with Diane Jenkins on the day of his WEDDING. Hmmmmmmmmmm, must run in the family. He also bedded his father's wife(JILL) but that was much later. Jack's such a hypocrite. Anyway, back to Jack. Jack is having sex with DJ one night in his office and Patti catches them and runs out tripping over a plant or ladder(can't remember) and miscarries the baby. She wants to have another baby, he says SURE. Ole smilin Jack then gets on the phone & arranges to have a VASECTOMY and she overhears the conversation. So, Patti goes into his office threatening to kill herself because she is so distraught. Jack starts pleading with her not to off herself and to shoot HIM instead. So "SHE DOES" THREE TIMES. She goes into a fuege state and doesn't remember anything. Her dad is the police Chief and has to have her arrested, trial, and she gets off. Leaves town, comes back to try to get back w/DR & he has married Traci by this time. Leaves town to go to be near her brother Steve in Washington D.C. (1984) Sorry, Daisy Jane I didn't know you were on or I wouldn't have posted. We were probably posting at the same time. SORRY......................................................


No problem. I'm glad you told the rest of the story. I got tickled reading the first few lines. Did you get a little hot under the collar? Take a few breaths, go for a walk and tell yourself "it's only make believe." Funny how something can pull us in and make our blood pressure rise, huh?

Jack hit the nail on the head when he told Phyllis "I drove a perfectly innocent woman to attempted murder".

He is going to be so devastated when he finds out MJ is Patti and feels guilty for what happened to Summer. He will hit an all time low.

P.S., After the psych did a re-enactment of the shooting scene (Jack & Patti) and Patti realized that she was the one that shot Jack, Jack decided not to press charges.

I don't recall Patti going to trial. She got a "Get Out Of Jail free card" although she didn't go.

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