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4th of July Episode REVEAL! Massive Spoilers!
Started by janie.white at 2009/06/29 04:25PMLatest post: 2009/06/30 03:04PM, Views: 7925, Replies: 63
#31
2009/06/30 11:43AM
Re: 4th of July Episode REVEAL! Massive Spoilers!
clicquot1 |
Quote Demus: Quote Longhornsfan79: Quote daddybigdraws: What I don't understand is why is Lilly leaving him? So what he isn't Jill's son. He is still Cane, who still has feelings for Lilly and she has them for him. Who cares what his name is she fell in love with the qualifies that made him who he is, not his last name. IMO the writers are pathetic. Why on earth would they have Cane fighting for a child that he knew all along that wasn't his if he knew he wasn't a "real Abbot". Just stupid. Lily isnt leaving Cane because he isnt an Abbott or a Chancellor but because he has been lying to her and everyone else for over a year now! I dont blame her! I blame the twit Lilly cuz she told Cane it doesn't matter what kind of past he has...she loves him for who he is (not because of the Chancellor name). Once again pure Lilly dumps a man that loves her more than life itself (way more than Daniel did) and she'll stomp her self-righteous butt back to daddy's house (sulking). Neil will then be the hypocrite he's been for the last 4 years and yell at Cane. Cane will beg the twit to come back and get shot in the meantime. Lilly will realize she always loved him but it's too late. STUPID PC3 leaving cuz of his sexuality is stupid also. When did he realize he was gay? Was he in love with Paul and not Christine???? The writers should be fired!!! Maybe TPTB are telling PHILLIP'S story of being gay and "in the closet" or on the "down" low because THOM BIERDZ was in the closet when he played PHILLIP. I read an interview where he said no one knew that he was gay(on set) twenty years ago and he has since "come out" in his personal life. Maybe, he gave some of his own personal experiences to assist the writers with the story line. |
#32
2009/06/30 11:57AM
Re: 4th of July Episode REVEAL! Massive Spoilers!
colormebadd |
I don't necessarily believe Lily is a twit for dumping Cane, the guy is a liar, fraud not to mention a criminal, who is about to cause a lot of people pain. I also don't think that Neil's a hypocrite for lashing out at Cane either, shoot that's his child no matter what. What he suppose to be happy that his daughter married this con under false pretenses. I liked Cane but he's the one dead wrong here not Lily or her father. |
#33
2009/06/30 12:02PM
Re: 4th of July Episode REVEAL! Massive Spoilers!
BabyCharms |
Quote colormebadd: I don't necessarily believe Lily is a twit for dumping Cane, the guy is a liar, fraud not to mention a criminal, who is about to cause a lot of people pain. I also don't think that Neil's a hypocrite for lashing out at Cane either, shoot that's his child no matter what. What he suppose to be happy that his daughter married this con under false pretenses. I liked Cane but he's the one dead wrong here not Lily or her father. The twit of the week goes to Sharon along with Mary Jane and Phillis a close second. JMO I concur with your opinion! |
#34
2009/06/30 12:13PM
Re: 4th of July Episode REVEAL! Massive Spoilers!
Charme |
Quote daddybigdraws: What I don't understand is why is Lilly leaving him? So what he isn't Jill's son. He is still Cane, who still has feelings for Lilly and she has them for him. Who cares what his name is she fell in love with the qualifies that made him who he is, not his last name. IMO the writers are pathetic. Why on earth would they have Cane fighting for a child that he knew all along that wasn't his if he knew he wasn't a "real Abbot". Just stupid. I don't think Lily's leaving is permanent. This will be a lot to filter through and come to terms with for her, Jill, and Katherine. One thing for sure is that Cane loves Lily and she loves him. I don't think Cane's action were criminal, he lied quite a bit but that's not criminal. I think when we know more of Cane's story, we will understand his motives for lying. I really believe this experience gave him the opportunity to have a family and have people genuinely love him. I think Phillip befriended Cane and whatever scheme they came up with, I don't think the intention was to con people and/or hurt them. Even in today's epi Cane to me showed quite a bit of compassion towards Nina, which to me says alot about his true character. I really don't know if their are any bad guys in this whole scenerio. |
#35
2009/06/30 12:27PM
Re: 4th of July Episode REVEAL! Massive Spoilers!
Demus |
Quote colormebadd: I don't necessarily believe Lily is a twit for dumping Cane, the guy is a liar, fraud not to mention a criminal, who is about to cause a lot of people pain. I also don't think that Neil's a hypocrite for lashing out at Cane either, shoot that's his child no matter what. What he suppose to be happy that his daughter married this con under false pretenses. I liked Cane but he's the one dead wrong here not Lily or her father. The twit of the week goes to Sharon along with Mary Jane and Phillis a close second. JMO I don't knock your opinion but Lilly just aggravates me! She NEVER knew about Cane's childhood and she was the one who said she loves him for who he is no matter what. His lie would more affect Jill/Billy/Nina rather than Lilly. I mean, is she going to hear him out or does she just walk out? She knew he was hiding something about his past but if she decides to not give him a chance then that's on her. It's not like she was in danger so.....either way it's stupid and so is she (JMO) Neil lied to his wives too! But we are talking about his precious Lilly so I guess it's a given for him to jump in Cane's face. Same story different son-in-law. As for PC3 being gay in real life, what's that got to do with the past s/l? Y&R are not portraying homosexual men in a positive light if they pursue this. Why would you abandon your child and want nothing to do with him? Because you want to sex men??? Ridiculous...may be true for some but still ridiculous considering his undying love for Cricket. They just botched this whole show up! |
#36
2009/06/30 12:31PM
Re: 4th of July Episode REVEAL! Massive Spoilers!
Oreo123 |
Get the plugs ready...as I said this s/l has more PLOT HOLES than NYC has POTHOLES! |
#37
2009/06/30 12:35PM
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lynnw |
Quote Charme: Quote daddybigdraws: What I don't understand is why is Lilly leaving him? So what he isn't Jill's son. He is still Cane, who still has feelings for Lilly and she has them for him. Who cares what his name is she fell in love with the qualifies that made him who he is, not his last name. IMO the writers are pathetic. Why on earth would they have Cane fighting for a child that he knew all along that wasn't his if he knew he wasn't a "real Abbot". Just stupid. I don't think Lily's leaving is permanent. This will be a lot to filter through and come to terms with for her, Jill, and Katherine. One thing for sure is that Cane loves Lily and she loves him. I don't think Cane's action were criminal, he lied quite a bit but that's not criminal. I think when we know more of Cane's story, we will understand his motives for lying. I really believe this experience gave him the opportunity to have a family and have people genuinely love him. I think Phillip befriended Cane and whatever scheme they came up with, I don't think the intention was to con people and/or hurt them. Even in today's epi Cane to me showed quite a bit of compassion towards Nina, which to me says alot about his true character. I really don't know if their are any bad guys in this whole scenerio. I don't think it'll be permanent either. He may have had intentions to con people when he first arrived on the scene, but all that changed. Now I think he wishes he could redo alot of things. Charme, kinda off subject but I have to hand it to the Lane fans for sticking by their couple. Seems like the non-bash Shick thread has all but disappeared. I guess their fans, myself included, just got so disgusted with the writers latest little scheme that we're taking a breather. |
#38
2009/06/30 12:39PM
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Demus |
Quote Charme: Quote daddybigdraws: What I don't understand is why is Lilly leaving him? So what he isn't Jill's son. He is still Cane, who still has feelings for Lilly and she has them for him. Who cares what his name is she fell in love with the qualifies that made him who he is, not his last name. IMO the writers are pathetic. Why on earth would they have Cane fighting for a child that he knew all along that wasn't his if he knew he wasn't a "real Abbot". Just stupid. I don't think Lily's leaving is permanent. This will be a lot to filter through and come to terms with for her, Jill, and Katherine. One thing for sure is that Cane loves Lily and she loves him. I don't think Cane's action were criminal, he lied quite a bit but that's not criminal. I think when we know more of Cane's story, we will understand his motives for lying. I really believe this experience gave him the opportunity to have a family and have people genuinely love him. I think Phillip befriended Cane and whatever scheme they came up with, I don't think the intention was to con people and/or hurt them. Even in today's epi Cane to me showed quite a bit of compassion towards Nina, which to me says alot about his true character. I really don't know if their are any bad guys in this whole scenerio. I agree with you. It's not like Cane wanted the Chancellor money cuz he didn't and still doesn't. Cane has always been about doing things on his own and having a family. Something he never had. I just hope the writers make PC3's story damn interesting and believable because for him to leave his child just because he is gay is just ridiculous (IMO). Plus, his s/l at that time leans more towards alcoholic heterosexual as opposed to alcoholic bi/homo sexual. I don't know...it's just stupid to me! |
#39
2009/06/30 12:49PM
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colormebadd |
Quote Demus: Quote colormebadd: I don't necessarily believe Lily is a twit for dumping Cane, the guy is a liar, fraud not to mention a criminal, who is about to cause a lot of people pain. I also don't think that Neil's a hypocrite for lashing out at Cane either, shoot that's his child no matter what. What he suppose to be happy that his daughter married this con under false pretenses. I liked Cane but he's the one dead wrong here not Lily or her father. The twit of the week goes to Sharon along with Mary Jane and Phillis a close second. JMO I don't knock your opinion but Lilly just aggravates me! She NEVER knew about Cane's childhood and she was the one who said she loves him for who he is no matter what. His lie would more affect Jill/Billy/Nina rather than Lilly. I mean, is she going to hear him out or does she just walk out? She knew he was hiding something about his past but if she decides to not give him a chance then that's on her. It's not like she was in danger so.....either way it's stupid and so is she (JMO) Neil lied to his wives too! But we are talking about his precious Lilly so I guess it's a given for him to jump in Cane's face. Same story different son-in-law. As for PC3 being gay in real life, what's that got to do with the past s/l? Y&R are not portraying homosexual men in a positive light if they pursue this. Why would you abandon your child and want nothing to do with him? Because you want to sex men??? Ridiculous...may be true for some but still ridiculous considering his undying love for Cricket. They just botched this whole show up! Lily along with quite a few other chicks on this soap annoy the shyt out of me but in this case, I find nothing wrong with the way she feels. I won't get into Phillip III faking his own death because he was in the closet because it's too damn stupid. As for Lily I believe it does affect her because she is married to someone that is a fraud and that would be enough for me to take a step back. Why on earth would she want to stay with someone who isn't who he said he is, that's just crazy. The guy's behavior/acts are down right criminal, he is switching blood to fake DNA test results, he's about to not only hurt her by all his lies but other people she cares about, for me that is a big deal and not something to take lightly. What Neil does to his wives is one thing but to not care about what happens to his daughter is a totally different story. I can't think of any good parent that would not be concerned for their children young or old if they are a true parent and care about their kids feelings. He just being a parent that's all and is entitled to be upset/disappointed in Cane, as does all the other people he will hurt. JMO |
#40
2009/06/30 12:52PM
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ILuvNY |
Remember the good old days of the Newman's BBQ on the 4th~everyone gathered around the pool having a good time and the kids running around or swimming? If only....... |
#41
2009/06/30 12:59PM
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colormebadd |
Quote ILuvNY: Remember the good old days of the Newman's BBQ on the 4th~everyone gathered around the pool having a good time and the kids running around or swimming? If only.......  Those were the good old days indeed. I don't think they'll be having any of those anytime soon with all this crazy BS going on with just about all the characters right now. |
#42
2009/06/30 12:59PM
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Demus |
Quote colormebadd: Quote Demus: Quote colormebadd: I don't necessarily believe Lily is a twit for dumping Cane, the guy is a liar, fraud not to mention a criminal, who is about to cause a lot of people pain. I also don't think that Neil's a hypocrite for lashing out at Cane either, shoot that's his child no matter what. What he suppose to be happy that his daughter married this con under false pretenses. I liked Cane but he's the one dead wrong here not Lily or her father. The twit of the week goes to Sharon along with Mary Jane and Phillis a close second. JMO I don't knock your opinion but Lilly just aggravates me! She NEVER knew about Cane's childhood and she was the one who said she loves him for who he is no matter what. His lie would more affect Jill/Billy/Nina rather than Lilly. I mean, is she going to hear him out or does she just walk out? She knew he was hiding something about his past but if she decides to not give him a chance then that's on her. It's not like she was in danger so.....either way it's stupid and so is she (JMO) Neil lied to his wives too! But we are talking about his precious Lilly so I guess it's a given for him to jump in Cane's face. Same story different son-in-law. As for PC3 being gay in real life, what's that got to do with the past s/l? Y&R are not portraying homosexual men in a positive light if they pursue this. Why would you abandon your child and want nothing to do with him? Because you want to sex men??? Ridiculous...may be true for some but still ridiculous considering his undying love for Cricket. They just botched this whole show up! Lily along with quite a few other chicks on this soap annoy the shyt out of me but in this case, I find nothing wrong with the way she feels. I won't get into Phillip III faking his own death because he was in the closet because it's too damn stupid. As for Lily I believe it does affect her because she is married to someone that is a fraud and that would be enough for me to take a step back. Why on earth would she want to stay with someone who isn't who he said he is, that's just crazy. The guy's behavior/acts are down right criminal, he is switching blood to fake DNA test results, he's about to not only hurt her by all his lies but other people she cares about, for me that is a big deal and not something to take lightly. What Neil does to his wives is one thing but to not care about what happens to his daughter is a totally different story. I can't think of any good parent that would not be concerned for their children young or old if they are a true parent and care about their kids feelings. He just being a parent that's all and is entitled to be upset/disappointed in Cane, as does all the other people he will hurt. JMO I'm not saying that you're wrong but the s/l is just so stupid! Lilly has no idea who Cane is! She just knows he was raised by his uncle and basically didn't have a family. She should have pushed to find out more. To me, when you are in LOVE with someone you should at least hear what they have to say. PC3 gave Cane a family he didn't want and Cane excepted because of his fixation on "family". Of course Lilly is shocked but she never really knew his past to begin with. Lilly said she loves him for him without knowing much about his past. An explanation would be nice and then she could take it from there but to make all of those endearing statements about Cane and just walk away is just silly because love isn't as simple as flipping light switch...at least I don't believe it is. But, maybe she just wouldn't believe a word he said cuz he lied to her and was using her to make his story credible. Moral of story: Don't marry a man you know nothing about! 
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#43
2009/06/30 01:04PM
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marigold |
What is this sudden shift to gay relationships? These writers are insane. Every storyline is so stupid I find myself shaking my head in disbelief. They sure do not read the spoilers or they would do a u turn. Ash has a dead baby that kicks-Cane is a nobody (love his acting)--Sharon does not know whether she is afoot or on horseback-Adam sure gets around for a blind man-In a romp with a man-then in bed with Heather (which should be eliminated)-Poor Chole cannot hang on to that worm. Hate to admit but the commercials are more fun. The actors are as bored as the audience. Please somebody-Save our show... |
#44
2009/06/30 01:09PM
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colormebadd |
Quote Demus: Quote colormebadd: Quote Demus: Quote colormebadd: I don't necessarily believe Lily is a twit for dumping Cane, the guy is a liar, fraud not to mention a criminal, who is about to cause a lot of people pain. I also don't think that Neil's a hypocrite for lashing out at Cane either, shoot that's his child no matter what. What he suppose to be happy that his daughter married this con under false pretenses. I liked Cane but he's the one dead wrong here not Lily or her father. The twit of the week goes to Sharon along with Mary Jane and Phillis a close second. JMO I don't knock your opinion but Lilly just aggravates me! She NEVER knew about Cane's childhood and she was the one who said she loves him for who he is no matter what. His lie would more affect Jill/Billy/Nina rather than Lilly. I mean, is she going to hear him out or does she just walk out? She knew he was hiding something about his past but if she decides to not give him a chance then that's on her. It's not like she was in danger so.....either way it's stupid and so is she (JMO) Neil lied to his wives too! But we are talking about his precious Lilly so I guess it's a given for him to jump in Cane's face. Same story different son-in-law. As for PC3 being gay in real life, what's that got to do with the past s/l? Y&R are not portraying homosexual men in a positive light if they pursue this. Why would you abandon your child and want nothing to do with him? Because you want to sex men??? Ridiculous...may be true for some but still ridiculous considering his undying love for Cricket. They just botched this whole show up! Lily along with quite a few other chicks on this soap annoy the shyt out of me but in this case, I find nothing wrong with the way she feels. I won't get into Phillip III faking his own death because he was in the closet because it's too damn stupid. As for Lily I believe it does affect her because she is married to someone that is a fraud and that would be enough for me to take a step back. Why on earth would she want to stay with someone who isn't who he said he is, that's just crazy. The guy's behavior/acts are down right criminal, he is switching blood to fake DNA test results, he's about to not only hurt her by all his lies but other people she cares about, for me that is a big deal and not something to take lightly. What Neil does to his wives is one thing but to not care about what happens to his daughter is a totally different story. I can't think of any good parent that would not be concerned for their children young or old if they are a true parent and care about their kids feelings. He just being a parent that's all and is entitled to be upset/disappointed in Cane, as does all the other people he will hurt. JMO I'm not saying that you're wrong but the s/l is just so stupid! Lilly has no idea who Cane is! She just knows he was raised by his uncle and basically didn't have a family. She should have pushed to find out more. To me, when you are in LOVE with someone you should at least hear what they have to say. PC3 gave Cane a family he didn't want and Cane excepted because of his fixation on "family". Of course Lilly is shocked but she never really knew his past to begin with. Lilly said she loves him for him without knowing much about his past. An explanation would be nice and then she could take it from there but to make all of those endearing statements about Cane and just walk away is just silly because love isn't as simple as flipping light switch...at least I don't believe it is. But, maybe she just wouldn't believe a word he said cuz he lied to her and was using her to make his story credible. Moral of story: Don't marry a man you know nothing about! I lean more towards her not wanting to hear anymore crap and can't say that I blame her, that's all she has ever heard since she been back from Paris. LOL I think that she has tried to reach out to him as a wife should to find out what's wrong but he isn't telling, with good reason on his behalf of course. I guess then again I could be wrong because look at what they have Sharon giving up on for the sake of an ex mistress and her comatose daughter?  makes no freaking sense but at least Lily's reaction makes more sense than Sharon's. Gotta love the writer's that's for sure. LOL
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#45
2009/06/30 01:14PM
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sj77 |
Quote colormebadd: I don't necessarily believe Lily is a twit for dumping Cane, the guy is a liar, fraud not to mention a criminal, who is about to cause a lot of people pain. I also don't think that Neil's a hypocrite for lashing out at Cane either, shoot that's his child no matter what. What he suppose to be happy that his daughter married this con under false pretenses. I liked Cane but he's the one dead wrong here not Lily or her father. The twit of the week goes to Sharon along with Mary Jane and Phillis a close second. JMO I totally agree. Are people really that blinded by a person's looks. He's hot, but that doesn't make up for him lying about who he is and deceiving people about something as personal as being someone's son. Anyone with any common sense would have left his azz. Although I'm sure it won't be for long, because this is a soap. But Kudos to Lily for having the balls to stand up for herself and not accept being lied to. And what Dad wouldn't want to kick Cane's azz after what he did. And IMO, Cane is the biggest hipocrite because he treated Amber like shyt after he found out about her, and she realy loved him. He played all high and mighty when he wasn't even who he said he was. What a joker! |
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