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***SUMMER'S CRISIS ****~~ Spolier Discussed!

Started by Keeley at 2009/06/24 10:19PM
Latest post: 2009/07/01 02:17AM, Views: 8259, Replies: 66
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#21   2009/06/25 09:01PM
Re: ***SUMMER'S CRISIS ****~~ Spolier Discussed!
Hush783
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Quote Soulsistah: I don't know if I can buy that Victor would contribute that way to the demise of Shick's marriage, given how much he loves Sharon as his daughter-in-law (still considers her family, and always will )

I don't see why Summer's paternity reveal has to be so complicated. With all the erroneous DNA test results of late (Jill/Kay/Cane), that would be the simplest way to bring this out: the results Nick saw were wrong. No need for him to lie (or Phyllkill to switch the results - though she is certainly capable of that). Summer ends up in the hospital and is unconscious (big difference from just scraping her knee ) ...blood tests of some kind will be needed, I'm sure.

But given how Soaps go, and all the foreshadowing that was being done around the time of Summer's birth and after, it's pretty clear that it'll come out Summer is Jack's child. It's just way too obvious and scenes like the ones that have been mentioned aren't just thrown in for no reason. They are done deliberately so they can be used for future potential story lines. We have never seen so many scenes of Phyllis, Jack and Summer interacting like we have been now... The signs are all there. Summer will be fine and her "illness" will be used as plot device to impact both Shick and Phick.


You are reading my mind! In soapland, everything has a purpose.

I think once the true paternity's are revealed both couples will go their separate ways. That's why it's taking so long cause once they're done-they're done.

I will be taking a break from Y&R until the fall but I'm glad they set up things for Nick and Sharon for when they return. The house has already been picked out and the name of their baby is already a given. Now, all they have to do is slip right in where they belong...at home with each other and their family.

#22   2009/06/25 09:03PM
Re: ***SUMMER'S CRISIS ****~~ Spolier Discussed!
Soulsistah
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Summer doesn't eat peanuts (peanut butter cookies), but MJ eats the cookies (which Phyllis threw out) and deliberately kisses Summer good-bye on the mouth. Hence, Summer has a violent reaction.

But, I gotta say. Why did Phyllkill have peanut butter cookies lying out like that when she knew the babysitter was bringing Summer there after school? It's not really a bash of Rashy, but my niece is severely allergic to peanuts and her mom - and all of us - make sure there is nothing even associated with peanuts around when she's over. Just thought that was so obviously contrived that peanut butter cookies were lying out like that.

ETA: Hush - yeah. You watch soaps long enough, you know the signs. Some things don't have to be spelled out in a spoiler...you just know.

Yes, the stage is being set for the final reunion of Shick (and perhaps Phack). Both JM and SC, if I recall correctly, indicated that the "messy" road to their reunion would seem to culminate around October. I can tune out until then for sure because there really isn't another s/l that has me truly vested right now. P3/Cane is the only one of minor interest, and that's mainly due to the great acting of NC, JC, JW and TB.

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#23   2009/06/25 09:07PM
Re: ***SUMMER'S CRISIS ****~~ Spolier Discussed!
Hush783
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Quote youngesoapwatcher: i can almost see this happening summer eats penut because sharons baby will be nicks and then summer will be jacks and phylis and jack will be togther typical


Soaps are so corny. Just when Sharon is about to reveal the paternity of her baby to Nick...Summer slips into a coma Geez...

What a soapland cliche. Then again, it's not a soap unless somebodys in a coma or coming back from the dead .

I'm telling you, watching soaps makes you feel like and idiot sometimes.

#24   2009/06/25 09:15PM
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Hush783
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Quote Soulsistah: Summer doesn't eat peanuts (peanut butter cookies), but MJ eats the cookies (which Phyllis threw out) and deliberately kisses Summer good-bye on the mouth. Hence, Summer has a violent reaction.

But, I gotta say. Why did Phyllkill have peanut butter cookies lying out like that when she knew the babysitter was bringing Summer there after school? It's not really a bash of Rashy, but my niece is severely allergic to peanuts and her mom - and all of us - make sure there is nothing even associated with peanuts around when she's over. Just thought that was so obviously contrived that peanut butter cookies were lying out like that.


LMAOOO You are reading my mind today. I was thinking the same thing.

My brother is deadly allergic to peanuts so we make sure there isn't a crumb around when he's in the room. My whole family have made their homes Peanut-Free Zones just for him.

You would think Phyllis would avoid anything to do with peanuts let alone buy some damn cookies and leave them out in the open like that-especially since she knows Summer comes by. What the hell was she thinking...you know what scratch that...I don't expect anything less from Phyllis. Her mind and dignity are lost somewhere in that tacky sofa of hers.

#25   2009/06/25 09:21PM
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Hush783
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Trust me Soulsistah. I see things coming from a mile away. I've been watching soaps my whole life and know what direction the writers are planning to take. It's just too much information to jot down.

I analyze every dialogue, every scene and every squint. If there's a coded message behind a certain line...I'll know.

#26   2009/06/26 05:01AM
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Oreo123
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Who is whose father and who the he!! are you???? Who am I????? Everyone in GC is asking these questions and looking for answers in graves, DNA tests, messages from the dead in dreams.....under the bed....in the closet.....anywhere!! This is not just a child's (Summer) crisis or a seasonal (Summer) crisis it is an ongoing crisis that is growing day by day for over a year with no end in sight until all the families are pulled apart and restructured the way MAB wants them.

#27   2009/06/26 08:13PM
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Soulsistah
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Ok.

Well then I guess that's MAB perogative, just like it was LML's perogative when she was head writer to break apart and build the families she wanted to see.

Hush - those that watch for the signs, will see them. Soaps these days aren't hard to figure out as to what will happen. The only real surprise element left is when things will happen.

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#28   2009/06/26 10:15PM
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Hush783
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Quote Soulsistah: Ok.

Well then I guess that's MAB perogative, just like it was LML's perogative when she was head writer to break apart and build the families she wanted to see.

Hush - those that watch for the signs, will see them. Soaps these days aren't hard to figure out as to what will happen. The only real surprise element left is when things will happen.


Soul, don't you know by now? some people are more valuable and sacred then others. duhhhh . you're only allowed happiness and a 'get out of jail free' card if your names begins with phyllis

we all need to grieve phyllis' live falling apart. we all need to feel sorry for phyllis' child. we all need to feel bad about summer not growing up without a father. we all need to respect phyllis' marriage.

Rules bud, don't forget the rules. What applies to phyllis, doesn't apply to sharon...

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#29   2009/06/26 11:20PM
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Soulsistah
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Silly me. Thanks Hush. I forgot dem there rules!

Phyllis must have things work out for her no matter what and she must be allowed to hurt and malign others at will with no repercussions. No, none. So listen up everyone, you all must feel very, very sorry for Phyllis because, because, umm....she's Phyllis and her hurts and pains and her daughter's take precedence over anyone else's. Yougotthat?! No happiness for anyone but Phyllis. We clear?

#30   2009/06/27 12:14AM
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Quote Soulsistah: Silly me. Thanks Hush. I forgot dem there rules!

Phyllis must have things work out for her no matter what and she must be allowed to hurt and malign others at will with no repercussions. No, none. So listen up everyone, you all must feel very, very sorry for Phyllis because, because, umm....she's Phyllis and her hurts and pains and her daughter's take precedence over anyone else's. Yougotthat?! No happiness for anyone but Phyllis. We clear?


i'll let this one slide for now Soul, just make sure you don't make the same mistake again. we must honor phyllis for the great gal that she is. just remember to block out all her bad things and stay focused on her being a good wife to nick. i know what you're thinking...what about jack and that tacky sofa incident?? nope. no. we can't remember that because it will taint her "good wife and faithful homemaker" image. stay focused on all her positive things.

now lets talk smack about sharons past since the rules are different...

lets see, she came onto the show back in 1994, so lets start with how it was all her fault she was raped by matt clark and go from there...

#31   2009/06/27 12:55AM
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Quote Keeley: OK , if the "Spoiler" is true, and Summer eats the peanuts she is allergic to, then does end up in a coma...what do you think of this as a possibility:

What if some testing is needed, and it is somehow revealed that Nick is NOT SUMMER"S FATHER? Has this been discussed or seen in any spurmors? I could actually give the writer's some credit if this, at least, comes out of this predicted terrible tragedy at the hands of MJ! (I looked through 3 pages, and found nothing about this speculation.) Could we finally get at least one of the paternity questions we have solved?





I personally think summer is going to die and by sharon telling everyone that the baby is jacks...Nick is going to think he has no more kids besides Noah!! just a theory

#32   2009/06/27 01:48AM
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Keeley
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Quote Phick fan:
Quote Keeley: OK , if the "Spoiler" is true, and Summer eats the peanuts she is allergic to, then does end up in a coma...what do you think of this as a possibility:

What if some testing is needed, and it is somehow revealed that Nick is NOT SUMMER"S FATHER? Has this been discussed or seen in any spurmors? I could actually give the writer's some credit if this, at least, comes out of this predicted terrible tragedy at the hands of MJ! (I looked through 3 pages, and found nothing about this speculation.) Could we finally get at least one of the paternity questions we have solved?





I personally think summer is going to die and by sharon telling everyone that the baby is jacks...Nick is going to think he has no more kids besides Noah!! just a theory


That is a theory I didn't think of at all. I cannot believe the roller coaster ride we have all been on with this story line. Would they ever find out MJ was responsible? Anything is possible on Y & R as we have seen lately.

#33   2009/06/27 02:16AM
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Keeley
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No matter how sad this is about Summer,(and this part with MJ being this over-the-top crazy, is something I don't want to see) it is so hard to believe Sharon will keep the paternity a secret and actually end up lying to Jack, and hurt him that much, and then Nick, with Summer so ill, she goes and kicks him when he is down, telling him "it is a girl, and oh, by the way this is Jack's"?

#34   2009/06/28 02:15AM
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Keeley
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Even though it was the weekend, I couldn't get that scene with little Summer on the floor out of my head. This is the toughest story to digest out of all of them! The writer's keep pushing the envelope. I wonder how long we will have to see Summer in the bed with all of the machines hooked up to her. I am very much against this S/L being dragged out. It's just too sad to watch day after day.

#35   2009/06/28 06:02AM
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Oreo123
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Isn't it ironic???????

Nick present reality is his "do over"...he can't change the past but he now has a choice to make that gives him his "do over" with his current wife and daughter....and while he makes the choice not to walk away Sharon makes sure he makes the right choice this time by lying to Nick about her baby's paternity.

Problem is she doesn't have to lie about her baby's paternity...he will not walk away from Summer as he did Cassie and Sharon in Cassie's last days. He will not repeat that mistake again with Phyllis and Summer even when Phyllis tells him he doesn't have to be there. He could still be a father to Sharon's baby...and even remarry Sharon when/if Summer gets well. But Sharon makes a bigger mess for herself, her baby and everyone..sigh..by trying to be the selfless one and use Jack and deny her baby it's birthright in the process. Selfish or selfless..matter of opinion. Ironic yes! Nick gets his "do over" but not as neither he nor Sharon expected!!!

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