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Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....

Started by Verona at 2008/07/07 05:40PM
Latest post: 2009/10/21 12:40PM, Views: 1683, Replies: 84
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#51   2009/10/17 03:20PM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
KC11
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What happened to the Nora who stressed doing everything right according to the law?????

I defended Nora through all of her problems since she landed in Llandview. Don't get me wrong, Nora used to be holier than thou and I loved that about her. I even defended her when she lied to Bo to save his life (way back when). Should I forgive her again?

Back then, I couldn't understand why Bo couldn't see that Nora lied to him and slept with (what's his name) to conceive the child Bo wanted after he lossed his first born son (what's his name-Rafe?) LOL! Sorry guys senior moment. I guess everything fades after awhile.

Long story short, Bo divorced Nora and left her due to her LIES. Remember?

So forgive me if I am really having trouble wrapping my head around Bo and Nora's deception to Matthew.

According to this old thread, Nora couldn't allow Lindsay to LIE to Bo! Bo has always hated the thought of LIES in general! Bo being the Comissioner couldn't forgive Lindsay for her LIES and deception as well! Does this mean he should forgive Lindsay when she returns to the canvas?

Nora is the DA yet she has NO qualms taking Matthew out of the country to prevent him from making a decision that the court allowed Matthew to make. Well, isn't this why Nora despises Tea? Tea one up'd Nora on several occassions this way.

Geez Nora, I guess we do change our tactics when it's to get what WE want eh? Don't forget to forgive Tea. I wonder will there be repercussions for Nora and Bo's actions? I can't wait to see what Tea does once she hears about the trip to London.

Nora is Matthew's mother but should the law take a back seat when children are in the equation?

If this were any other case many of us would have a problem with the DA and the Comissioner involved in such obvious disregard of the law. Help me understand why NORA should remain the DA after this stunt. (How many cases has she won these days anyway?) I wonder if she advises her other clients to run like hell when she loses their case.

Again, help me understand why we should overlook this recent chain of events. Does money and status really take precedence? Whew! Sorry I'm venting!

#52   2009/10/19 07:10AM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
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Quote KC11: What happened to the Nora who stressed doing everything right according to the law?????

I defended Nora through all of her problems since she landed in Llandview. Don't get me wrong, Nora used to be holier than thou and I loved that about her. I even defended her when she lied to Bo to save his life (way back when). Should I forgive her again?

Back then, I couldn't understand why Bo couldn't see that Nora lied to him and slept with (what's his name) to conceive the child Bo wanted after he lossed his first born son (what's his name-Rafe?) LOL! Sorry guys senior moment. I guess everything fades after awhile.

Long story short, Bo divorced Nora and left her due to her LIES. Remember?

So forgive me if I am really having trouble wrapping my head around Bo and Nora's deception to Matthew.

According to this old thread, Nora couldn't allow Lindsay to LIE to Bo! Bo has always hated the thought of LIES in general! Bo being the Comissioner couldn't forgive Lindsay for her LIES and deception as well! Does this mean he should forgive Lindsay when she returns to the canvas?

Nora is the DA yet she has NO qualms taking Matthew out of the country to prevent him from making a decision that the court allowed Matthew to make. Well, isn't this why Nora despises Tea? Tea one up'd Nora on several occassions this way.

Geez Nora, I guess we do change our tactics when it's to get what WE want eh? Don't forget to forgive Tea. I wonder will there be repercussions for Nora and Bo's actions? I can't wait to see what Tea does once she hears about the trip to London.

Nora is Matthew's mother but should the law take a back seat when children are in the equation?

If this were any other case many of us would have a problem with the DA and the Comissioner involved in such obvious disregard of the law. Help me understand why NORA should remain the DA after this stunt. (How many cases has she won these days anyway?) I wonder if she advises her other clients to run like hell when she loses their case.

Again, help me understand why we should overlook this recent chain of events. Does money and status really take precedence? Whew! Sorry I'm venting!


First Im not a Nora fan.. I was mad as he!! when she broke up Bo's wedding to Lindsay!! But as for her latest. sorry but ITA with her!! That judge imo had no right to rule as he did! This is not a life saving surgery it's elective!! It's not like he has a disease and they are refusing treatment!! imo this is just another example how people are trying to take away more of our parental rights!! Thank god though this time it's just a s/l and not real!! And Kudos to Bo and Nora for Stepping up and doing what aGOOD parent does!! (Love, protect and nurturer their child!!) Let him get the surgery when he's of legal age, until then to bad he is not emancipated their for he is their responsibility!! This whole s/l is crazy! No judge would rule that way!! again as it's not life saving and his life isn't in jeopardy!!

#53   2009/10/19 07:15PM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
KC11
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Parenting is a difficult job. I can honestly say that I am no expert on parenting however, I can (and my children can attest to the fact)state that I honestly would never dictate to overturn a court order should one be put in place for any of my children. I LOVE MY babies to no end too! However, I do have high regard for the law and I teach MY children to do the same. My son is indeed a police officer currently, and my other children are all university graduates with awesome careers and fortunately never had any problems in school nor with the law.

Our family had wonderful talks (and still do) about decision-making throughout our lives and I can HONESTLY and PROUDLY state that I would never leap to such means (as Nora)and insult their intelligence in this way. Love requires respect! At 15 years of age, MY children were definitely capable of making such a decision. If my child ELECTED (your words) to go to war or donate their limbs or even have a surgery such as Matthew's, (God forbid) we would have discussed it and I would have prayed for a speedy recovery!

Honor is huge in our family and Nora displayed very little honor and integrity towards Matthew. YES, I agree with you ... this is a soap and who knows what a real judge will decide in court these days but Nora and Bo both taught Matthew well (up to this point). Matthew used their moral judgement and their moral system(when they exhibited such) and chose to seek legal counsel. Sorry, but I agree to disagree with you about this issue.

If you do not trust your children's judgement, this of course is another issue but I for one taught my children to think for themselves and I do trust their sound judgement and my LORD. It has worked for me so far and I pray that MY children will continue to exhibit great sound judgement in the future.

You continue to mention GOOD parenting...well that my dear is in the eye of the beholder.

#54   2009/10/19 07:38PM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
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Quote Verona: Nora is vindictive and plain evil. She hates Lindsay so much she doesn’t care who she is hurting in the process. She doesn’t even stop for her own child. I wish she would fall back into the coma and stay there for a while. Or maybe she should get amnesia or something in that direction so she backs off once and for all. I really dislike what has become of her… I mean, she isn’t any better than Lindsay.. she had an affair with Sam while married to Bo and lied about it to save her own butt. So in my eyes she (Nora) isn’t any better than Lindsay..



I can't respond to the rest of the crap you are spewing but as for as Matthew - I am a mom and if my child went to court to get approval to have a surgery that could kill him, if I could, I'd do the exact same thing Nora is doing. A mother will do ANYTHING to protect her child especially from themsselves. You are not a mom, apparently just a hater.

#55   2009/10/20 05:52AM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
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I think we are forgetiing that Matthew is a CHILD! At 15 (just like the Taylor swift song says) your not ready!! He can't see the whole picture, they can! and as to trusting my childs judgment again he's 15. I remember that well(and TRUST me I made alot of mistakes and wish now I had listened to my mom instead of thining I was old enough to make my own chices! So trust imo is a 2 way street!! I mean really if my son comes home stinking like weed and beer am I supposed to trust him to know whats best? HEll No he's a child!!

#56   2009/10/20 05:54AM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
bigtimesoapfan
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Quote EVSCNB:
Quote Verona: Nora is vindictive and plain evil. She hates Lindsay so much she doesn’t care who she is hurting in the process. She doesn’t even stop for her own child. I wish she would fall back into the coma and stay there for a while. Or maybe she should get amnesia or something in that direction so she backs off once and for all. I really dislike what has become of her… I mean, she isn’t any better than Lindsay.. she had an affair with Sam while married to Bo and lied about it to save her own butt. So in my eyes she (Nora) isn’t any better than Lindsay..



I can't respond to the rest of the crap you are spewing but as for as Matthew - I am a mom and if my child went to court to get approval to have a surgery that could kill him, if I could, I'd do the exact same thing Nora is doing. A mother will do ANYTHING to protect her child especially from themsselves. You are not a mom, apparently just a hater.


Thank God Im finally not the only one who can see the bigger picture!! ITA with you!!

#57   2009/10/20 06:33AM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: I think we are forgetiing that Matthew is a CHILD! At 15 (just like the Taylor swift song says) your not ready!! He can't see the whole picture, they can! and as to trusting my childs judgment again he's 15. I remember that well(and TRUST me I made alot of mistakes and wish now I had listened to my mom instead of thining I was old enough to make my own chices! So trust imo is a 2 way street!! I mean really if my son comes home stinking like weed and beer am I supposed to trust him to know whats best? HEll No he's a child!!


Yes, I agree with you. If a child comes home smelling like weed and beer I would not consider him/her to be a wise thinker. Did I miss that episode?

And why would I consider Taylor swift to be the expert on Matthew and his condition?

A mother knows which child is capable of making sensible decisions. And if Taylor (sense you brought it up) says she's not ready I believe her. Children are all different (Heck adults are to).

People who make desperate and irrational decisions (like Nora, Marcy, and Tess)to justify adulthood don't cut it in my book.

To say Nora sees the whole picture right now simply condemns all parents who allow major surgeries. All surgeries present risks. So, one is a bad parent for not staying in the vicinity and trusting a world renowned doctor but a good parent avoids a court order because she doesn't want to take a risk for her child to walk again?

So,I guess I should rethink this and believe Tess, Marcy and recently Nora are wonderful parents. Eeek! At least Marcy and Jess realized that during their mental breakdowns a mistake was made after the fact.

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#58   2009/10/20 02:14PM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
bigtimesoapfan
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I respectfully agree to disagree profusley!!!

#59   2009/10/20 11:36PM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
KC11
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: I respectfully agree to disagree profusley!!!


No worries! Respect is what is being lost between Matthew and his parents. What a shame! Who wouldn't want a chance to walk again?

Nora already said she doesn't care if Matthew hates her or not. Wow! I'm hoping they will mend fences eventually. I just do not understand her reasoning. Didn't they initially look high and low for a surgeon to perform the surgery in the first place? Sorry, but all major surgeries have risk?

Did you see when Nora almost got on her knees to beg Greg to conduct the surgery? Why the change of heart then? I think that's when she broke down and came up with this stupid scheme.

I really think Nora and Bo are going to regret their actions.

On another note, you mentioned something earlier... I'm not sure I remember Matthew smoking weed or smelling like alcohol ever. Did that really happen? If so, when?

There have been times when I couldn't watch my soaps many times and Tivo only keeps my soaps for one week.

Are you referring to the time Nora thought Matthew was doing drugs and it turned out to be Cole?

If anyone remembers please let me know when this happened?

#60   2009/10/21 12:40PM
Re: Nora is vindictive, obsessed and plain evil....
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1. This was Clint's big idea. Not Bo and Nora's. 2. Greg is not performing the surgery someone with less experience is. WOuld you want someone with no track record performing surgery on your child? I sure as he!! wouldn't!! and imo respect is a 2 way street. They are the parents and when they said NO to the surgery that should have been the end of the subject! imo Matt should have respected their authority and dropped it! I mean if he comes out worse then when he went in, who's going to care for him? also who's payin for this? If it were me Id tell the Judge to pay it himself! Matthew could die or end up a quadropeligic from this surgery. I side with the parents!!
But I still respectfully agree to disagree.

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