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Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia

Started by merrymary at 2007/08/22 07:34AM
Latest post: 2007/08/24 02:05AM, Views: 957, Replies: 69
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#21   2007/08/22 12:00PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote gutsyangel:
Quote Delonjo: In my opinion, Harley was a complete and total witch to Nat when she first came to town. She was always being suspicious and checking under her bed for ghosts, before Nat even tried anything. Yeah, she pretended to be nice, for Gus's sake. But then she had Nat fired for no good reason, other than insane jealousy and spite. Gus was pushing Harley to "play nice," but she would have none of it, in my opinion. Yeah. She opened up her home to Rafe for a literal moment, but then kicked him out practically the next day, preferring her daughter over Gus's son. Hey, it's her prerogative because it's her home.

Nat owes Harley nothing, in my opinion.


Delonjo....you don't like the character Harley, do you???

You like Natalie even though she's doing all she can to get Gus back...even using her son Raf...she could have talked to Gus on the phone about the school..it wasn't something that had to be discussed in person. She knew what his answer would be. She's using Raf to stay close to Gus and take him away from Harley.


I love the actress. The character used to be a favorite. Something happened to the character after Phillip that turned her from fun-loving breath of fresh air to a bitter, suspicious harpy.

#22   2007/08/22 12:11PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Delonjo...did you miss the episode where Gus told Natalie that what they did was a mistake, that it would not happen again, that he loved Harley and wanted his marriage to work??? Natalie's response was that her feelings had changed and that she would do anything to get him back.

#23   2007/08/22 12:13PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Yeah. He said those things and I didn't miss the ep. But he sure doesn't act like he said those things.

He can say what he wants. The truth is in allowing Nat to prance around Harley's home while she ain't there. At first, I thought that Gus wanted his marriage to work, but as the weeks have wore on, his wishy-washy intentions become obvious.

Nat's more honest and upfront than Harley and Gus.

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#24   2007/08/22 12:21PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote Delonjo:
Quote Revasfan:
Quote Delonjo:
Quote Revasfan: She bugs me so self righteous. Since she's so damn smart why has she been alone fore 16 something years???


Her? Alone? For 16 years, even? I'm sure that Rafe has had quite a few "fathers," kinda like RJ has a new "father" year.



That would be like the little tramp. I wouldn't mind her soo much if she wasn't activtely gunning for Gus when he's made it clear that he wants to be with Harley.

I'd have more respect for her if she had their little romp and let him know 'Call me when you're done with the little girl now that you know where the real womans at' and went on her way leaving him yearning for her.


But he doesn't make it clear. He simply mouths platitudes for the benefit of do-gooders like Buzz and Frank, those paragons of virtue. I haven't heard him say anything to Nat about leaving him alone, she's crowding him, she needs to back off. Nothing. He tacitly approves of the attention, like Harley with Dylan. In fact, when she admitted her intentions to him, he sat there looking quite dumb and flummoxed. I heard not a single no.

Nat is being passive-aggressive. That's her style and I respect her for it. Until Gus clearly tells her to "step off," he keeps telling her yes, yes, yes. Each time she says "it's about Rafe," I chuckle up a storm.



Respectfully, you win.

#25   2007/08/22 12:28PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote Delonjo: Yeah. He said those things and I didn't miss the ep. But he sure doesn't act like he said those things.

He can say what he wants. The truth is in allowing Nat to prance around Harley's home while she ain't there. At first, I thought that Gus wanted his marriage to work, but as the weeks have wore on, his wishy-washy intentions become obvious.
Nat's more honest and upfront than Harley and Gus.



Now that was just more then I could bare. Can you image that little witch offering to make something for Gus to eat in Harley's kitchen...the limits are not being set by GUS.

#26   2007/08/22 12:59PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote PRINCESSANNOD1:
Quote Delonjo: Yeah. He said those things and I didn't miss the ep. But he sure doesn't act like he said those things.

He can say what he wants. The truth is in allowing Nat to prance around Harley's home while she ain't there. At first, I thought that Gus wanted his marriage to work, but as the weeks have wore on, his wishy-washy intentions become obvious.
Nat's more honest and upfront than Harley and Gus.



Now that was just more then I could bare. Can you image that little witch offering to make something for Gus to eat in Harley's kitchen...the limits are not being set by GUS.


I agree. It's Gus's marriage. If Nat wants to shake her tail at the man who still licks his lips at the thought, I don't blame her.

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#27   2007/08/22 02:18PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Gus needs to stay away!!!

#28   2007/08/22 02:28PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
neiceyblessed
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Quote merrymary: The marriage will be stronger than ever now. Harley, will realize how much she loves Gus and forgive him. It will take time, and time heals all wounds. Delonjo, Gus loves Harley, he has not made a decision to move on as you say he has done. He needs to fight back and let Natalia alone.It will take time, and it is now up to Harley to be sstronger than Gus. Men are the weaker sex!!!!


Ouch!! merrymary

#29   2007/08/22 02:35PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote neiceyblessed:
Quote merrymary: The marriage will be stronger than ever now. Harley, will realize how much she loves Gus and forgive him. It will take time, and time heals all wounds. Delonjo, Gus loves Harley, he has not made a decision to move on as you say he has done. He needs to fight back and let Natalia alone.It will take time, and it is now up to Harley to be sstronger than Gus. Men are the weaker sex!!!!


Ouch!! merrymary


Just speaking the facts! Woman have to be stronger...to be able to handle men.

#30   2007/08/22 02:59PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
neiceyblessed
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Quote gutsyangel:
Quote Delonjo: Bad decisions are necessary for soapdom. Which is why I love Olivia and loathe REVA: Olivia does the right thing for the wrong reasons and REVA does the wrong thing for the "right" thing. Brilliant drama for all.

I haven't watched yet, but I hope that Gus told Harley to go back off and help Dylan get his 4-wheel scooter for the elderly. She needs to get off his back.


She needs to get off His back????? He shouldn't have been with Natalie on HER back!!! He made a Big mistake in running to Natalie after what he thought he saw. It's no excuse to have sex with another woman. Harley may forgive him, but I'm with her when it comes to never forgetting. How can you forget your husband's arms around another woman!!!


Of course you never forget, we were'nt created with the capacity to forget something that painful. But you make the decision to forgive and set about doing it. Gus was wrong and he knows it and admitted it to himself and Natalia. Harley however, refuses to see that she is, in large part responsible for this. As merrymary said in an earlier post "We are the stronger sex" so she has always had the power in her hands to make that marriage rock solid. It's always been crystal clear that Gus adored her and was committed to their family. But did Harley do that??? not at all!! Instead, she constantly took him for granted, never let him forget that those were not his children, and not his responsibility. He darned near lost his life thanks to her physco daughter,a candle and a lighter. Only to have her question him in the hospital and accused him of welcoming that brats attention. And all of this was after watching her flirt with and yearn for and ultimately sleeping with yet another "ex" It's ok for Harley to have a relationship with Dylan because they share a child. Knowing that he still wants her but of course pretending all along that she had no clue.... Yea right!! Give me a dam--d break Gus is one of the few good guys in Springfield that did everything as right as an imperfect human possibly could. But was not appreciated! And so after all that he'd already turned a blind eye and a deaf ear to. To see his wife in bed with still another ex(even though it was not the way it appeared) Harley had already primed the canvas for him to think exactly what he did. And again, Sleeping with Natalia was wrong on several planes. The most important being,he is a married man. The second being, Natalia has genuine feelings for him and always has, for him to make someone that was once special to him and the mother of his only child a Rebound Chick was wrong. But again, he was hurt and in need of comfort. No doubt Gus should not have slept with Nat. But Harley is by no stretch of the imagination innocent or blameless in the breakdown of yet another marriage.... .. sorry I got a little long winded

#31   2007/08/22 03:03PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
neiceyblessed
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Quote Barrie: One of the beautiful things about marriage is the history that you share with that person. Unfortunately, there's both good & bad memories that are buried deep. IMO, regareless of how you convince yourself that something is forgiven, it's always deeply inbedded in your phyche. That being said, they both have a long road ahead if they sincerely want to repair this marriage. If one or both refuse to do that, then it's over. Nat should not be a factor in this equation regardless of the child they share unless Gus wants her continuously in the picture. Raf is a teenager who was raised by one parent. Gus deserves to be in Raf's life, but that doesn't require Nat's attention. Neither does Daisy require that Dylan & Harley being around each other. If they can agree to get along and continue to do their best with the babies they have, it's all good. But it's unfair if Gus & Harley want to repair old relationships from the past. Harley needs to let Dylan go (she didn't need to go to rehab with him) and Gus needs to stop leading Nat on with the subtle kisses and his goofy a$$, so-called explaining things to her. If I were Nat, I would be insulted and embarrassed and would'nt have told him how I felt. She was used for his immediate satisfaction and she ran with those emotions. I know Harley was upset and needed to get away, but why not to some resort or spa.


Excellently said

#32   2007/08/22 03:10PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote Delonjo: In my opinion, Harley was a complete and total witch to Nat when she first came to town. She was always being suspicious and checking under her bed for ghosts, before Nat even tried anything. Yeah, she pretended to be nice, for Gus's sake. But then she had Nat fired for no good reason, other than insane jealousy and spite. Gus was pushing Harley to "play nice," but she would have none of it, in my opinion. Yeah. She opened up her home to Rafe for a literal moment, but then kicked him out practically the next day, preferring her daughter over Gus's son. Hey, it's her prerogative because it's her home.

Nat owes Harley nothing, in my opinion.


Count me in on this one........ Nat owes her nothing. I would hope that she does'nt disrespect herself in her sons eyes. And if Gus does decide to stay with the shrew, be the lady that you were when you came to town and bow out gracefully.

#33   2007/08/22 03:18PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote merrymary: I am getting so angry with Gus. If he wants to get back together with Harley, and make this marriage work, he doesn't even need to see Natalia anymore. Make him self scare and don't feel he needs to talk to her about anything. Rafe ,is a teen now, talk things over with him, not Nat. She is no good in my book. A man chaser!! Harley, needs to get stronger and fight her off. More so then Gus!!



At first i kinda wanted to see nat and gus together when harley was acting strange..but seeing how hurt she is..i SO want Natalia to go away!!!! And when Gus was patting Nats hand in front of his emotional wreck of a wife!!! c'mon jerk! Have some compassion for your wife!

#34   2007/08/22 03:25PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote laner111:
Quote merrymary: I am getting so angry with Gus. If he wants to get back together with Harley, and make this marriage work, he doesn't even need to see Natalia anymore. Make him self scare and don't feel he needs to talk to her about anything. Rafe ,is a teen now, talk things over with him, not Nat. She is no good in my book. A man chaser!! Harley, needs to get stronger and fight her off. More so then Gus!!



At first i kinda wanted to see nat and gus together when harley was acting strange..but seeing how hurt she is..i SO want Natalia to go away!!!! And when Gus was patting Nats hand in front of his emotional wreck of a wife!!! c'mon jerk! Have some compassion for your wife!


She had none for him.......

#35   2007/08/22 03:29PM
Re: Gus, NEEDS to stay away from Natalia
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Quote neiceyblessed:
Quote laner111:
Quote merrymary: I am getting so angry with Gus. If he wants to get back together with Harley, and make this marriage work, he doesn't even need to see Natalia anymore. Make him self scare and don't feel he needs to talk to her about anything. Rafe ,is a teen now, talk things over with him, not Nat. She is no good in my book. A man chaser!! Harley, needs to get stronger and fight her off. More so then Gus!!





At first i kinda wanted to see nat and gus together when harley was acting strange..but seeing how hurt she is..i SO want Natalia to go away!!!! And when Gus was patting Nats hand in front of his emotional wreck of a wife!!! c'mon jerk! Have some compassion for your wife!


She had none for him.......



neiceyblessed

I agree with you 100%.

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