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Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva

Started by gagirl at 2007/08/20 07:17PM
Latest post: 2007/08/30 09:48AM, Views: 1265, Replies: 70
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#21   2007/08/22 11:52AM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
Revasfan
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OLIVIA

#22   2007/08/22 12:25PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
misterr
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Quote QueenReva: I know the poster wanted one word answers, but I think that is impossible in this case.

I have left and come back during really lame storylines (what the writer's have done to Reva in the past is deplorable, ie. Amish Reva, Dolly, and going through paintings) so maybe I've missed some of the evil doings of both characters.

The schemes I have seen make me want to say Olivia, only because I haven't seen her do anything for the benefit of someone else, only herself. Reva on the other hand seems to split her evil doings between selfish doings and trying to help family members (at least that is how she rationalizes it).

Both are probably equal in the amount of evil doings but it's the reason behind them that makes me lean towards Olivia as the more evil because I see her schemes being more selfish. Can anyone give me an example when Olivia did something immoral or illegal in order to help someone else, even if she was only rationalizing her motives in her own mind like Reva does? I am not trying to challenge anyone on this issue, I'm just sure that I may have missed something along the way that shows that Olivia has tried to help someone else.



When Olivia set it up so Ava was mugged she did it so Coop would step in and help Ava.

#23   2007/08/22 01:22PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
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Quote QueenReva: I know the poster wanted one word answers, but I think that is impossible in this case.

I have left and come back during really lame storylines (what the writer's have done to Reva in the past is deplorable, ie. Amish Reva, Dolly, and going through paintings) so maybe I've missed some of the evil doings of both characters.

The schemes I have seen make me want to say Olivia, only because I haven't seen her do anything for the benefit of someone else, only herself. Reva on the other hand seems to split her evil doings between selfish doings and trying to help family members (at least that is how she rationalizes it).

Both are probably equal in the amount of evil doings but it's the reason behind them that makes me lean towards Olivia as the more evil because I see her schemes being more selfish. Can anyone give me an example when Olivia did something immoral or illegal in order to help someone else, even if she was only rationalizing her motives in her own mind like Reva does? I am not trying to challenge anyone on this issue, I'm just sure that I may have missed something along the way that shows that Olivia has tried to help someone else.

Several more examples of Olivia's non-selfish, yet immoral and/or illegal schemes:

- Teaming up with Jeffrey to keep Alan-Michael from harassing Ava

- Telling Philip that Emma was dead to prevent then-psycho Lizzie from killing her

- Teaming up with Reva, in an effort to catch Alfred at his own game (hitting Reva at Reva's request , etc.)

- Helping Reva trap sociopath Edmund in a confession, while running from the San Cristobel police

- Helping fugitive Harley escape, by not telling anyone she saw her

The list could go on and on...

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#24   2007/08/22 01:22PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
Delonjo
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When Olivia set it up so Ava was mugged she did it so Coop would step in and help Ava.


...and to provoke Jeffrey's sympathy so that he can get out of bed with REVA and rush to be with "family."

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#25   2007/08/22 01:24PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
Delonjo
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Quote cardinal:
Quote QueenReva: I know the poster wanted one word answers, but I think that is impossible in this case.

I have left and come back during really lame storylines (what the writer's have done to Reva in the past is deplorable, ie. Amish Reva, Dolly, and going through paintings) so maybe I've missed some of the evil doings of both characters.

The schemes I have seen make me want to say Olivia, only because I haven't seen her do anything for the benefit of someone else, only herself. Reva on the other hand seems to split her evil doings between selfish doings and trying to help family members (at least that is how she rationalizes it).

Both are probably equal in the amount of evil doings but it's the reason behind them that makes me lean towards Olivia as the more evil because I see her schemes being more selfish. Can anyone give me an example when Olivia did something immoral or illegal in order to help someone else, even if she was only rationalizing her motives in her own mind like Reva does? I am not trying to challenge anyone on this issue, I'm just sure that I may have missed something along the way that shows that Olivia has tried to help someone else.

Several more examples of Olivia's non-selfish schemes:

- Teaming up with Jeffrey to keep Alan-Michael from harassing Ava

- Telling Philip that Emma was dead to prevent then-psycho Lizzie from killing her

- Teaming up with Reva, in an effort to catch Alfred at his own game (hitting Reva at Reva's request , etc.)

- Helping Reva trap sociopath Edmund in a confession, while running from the San Cristobel police

- Helping fugitive Harley escape, by not telling anyone she saw her

The list could go on and on...


Wonderful! Superb! Superlative! Magnificent! Stupendous! There aren't enough positive adjectives for this post. And most of all TRUE! If it weren't for Olivia, Jonathan would have been dead decades ago. And she also saved Dylan's life only a few weeks ago. She gained nothing but more of REVA's enmity and jealousy. And what does REVA do to say thank you to Olivia: frame her for attempted murder. Dems doze family values for ya! Haha!

Thank you so much!

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#26   2007/08/22 01:26PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
cardinal
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Quote Delonjo: Wonderful! Superb! Superlative! Magnificent! Stupendous! There aren't enough positive adjectives for this post. And most of all TRUE!

Thank you so much!


Your welcome!

Although a bit of a stretch, you could also add causing Billy to fall off the wagon, to help husband Bill advance at Lewis Oil (of course, there was a matter of a little personal revenge tossed in there too).

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#27   2007/08/22 01:30PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
SndrElkins
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All i got to say that really gets me about Olivia is she hired a hitman to go after her on daughter.Does not matter if she knew that she was her's or not,still the fact is she done it,OH and the other she claims she wants a man that raped her.OH please BIG O give me a break already Make up your mind either he did and if so you must not care to much about the fact

#28   2007/08/22 02:55PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
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Quote Delonjo:
When Olivia set it up so Ava was mugged she did it so Coop would step in and help Ava.


...and to provoke Jeffrey's sympathy so that he can get out of bed with REVA and rush to be with "family."


Oh, pleeazzze, give it up already. Nothing you can say can make Olivia, be the good witch...Keep reaching in your bag of tricks though. The onlygood deed Olivia did ws give her blood to Dylan. I will give her that one....

#29   2007/08/22 04:59PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
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Quote merrymary:
Quote Delonjo:
When Olivia set it up so Ava was mugged she did it so Coop would step in and help Ava.


...and to provoke Jeffrey's sympathy so that he can get out of bed with REVA and rush to be with "family."


Oh, pleeazzze, give it up already. Nothing you can say can make Olivia, be the good witch...Keep reaching in your bag of tricks though. The onlygood deed Olivia did ws give her blood to Dylan. I will give her that one....


LOL lets hope it was good blood and they poor guy gets alone ok or Reva will get the blame for that cause she agree to let big O give him blood

#30   2007/08/22 05:30PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
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The blood Olivia gave to Dylan was tainted with evilness, he will come back to town even more ruthless then when he left for rehab. I don't miss him! Let himstay in reba for another 6 months.....

#31   2007/08/22 05:53PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
SndrElkins
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Quote merrymary: The blood Olivia gave to Dylan was tainted with evilness, he will come back to town even more ruthless then when he left for rehab. I don't miss him! Let himstay in reba for another 6 months.....


Maybe he has still got enough of his mom's blood and it will over power the bad evil blood from big O

#32   2007/08/22 05:56PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
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Quote SndrElkins:
Quote merrymary: The blood Olivia gave to Dylan was tainted with evilness, he will come back to town even more ruthless then when he left for rehab. I don't miss him! Let himstay in reba for another 6 months.....


Maybe he has still got enough of his mom's blood and it will over power the bad evil blood from big O


You're right,Sandra...Reva does have all the good blood and good beats evil any day. Dylan is Reva's son, so there must be some good in him. Like mother ,like son.

#33   2007/08/22 08:31PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
Barrie
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I just can't stop laughing at these posts about the blood being tainted . I know you guys are just joking.

#34   2007/08/22 09:16PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
Karrie
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Quote QueenReva: I know the poster wanted one word answers, but I think that is impossible in this case.

I have left and come back during really lame storylines (what the writer's have done to Reva in the past is deplorable, ie. Amish Reva, Dolly, and going through paintings) so maybe I've missed some of the evil doings of both characters.

The schemes I have seen make me want to say Olivia, only because I haven't seen her do anything for the benefit of someone else, only herself. Reva on the other hand seems to split her evil doings between selfish doings and trying to help family members (at least that is how she rationalizes it).

Both are probably equal in the amount of evil doings but it's the reason behind them that makes me lean towards Olivia as the more evil because I see her schemes being more selfish. Can anyone give me an example when Olivia did something immoral or illegal in order to help someone else, even if she was only rationalizing her motives in her own mind like Reva does? I am not trying to challenge anyone on this issue, I'm just sure that I may have missed something along the way that shows that Olivia has tried to help someone else.


Olivia thought she was helping Ava by having her mugged, so Coop could be her hero & bring the two back together. Coop was only interested in Ava when he thought she was helpless.

#35   2007/08/22 10:02PM
Re: Who is most evil? Olivia or Reva
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Thanks for all the info, some of what you guys have listed, I did not know about.

I would have to say that they are about even overall. Maybe the Olivia fans should ask the writers to come up with a lame s/l for Olivia like they have done to Reva over the years. The next time a character has to lose their memory and wakes up in an Amish community, it could be Olivia and then more of the viewers would feel some sympathy for her.

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