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Too much sadness to take in

Started by PelphreyPosse at 2009/09/15 01:43PM
Latest post: 2009/09/17 06:27AM, Views: 1693, Replies: 33
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#11   2009/09/16 04:23AM
Re: Too much sadness to take in
PelphreyPosse
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2577, when I mentioned Ron's singing, I was referring to his singing around the country with symphany orchestras. I don't think he has done theater for a good while. He seems to just be concentrating on his singing.

#12   2009/09/16 05:56AM
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sher2309
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Yesterday when I saw the news of Alans death I was very upset, but when I watched the show I was able to fully appreciate what was happening. I Hate that he had to die, but after Friday to me they will all be dead anyway. I'm glad he went on a good note. When he was being good I loved him and when he was bad I loved to hate him. Ron was great as Alan and I wish him all the best in whatever he does after the show ends.
I do have it in my head that since no one has really heard a whole lot of what the actors are doing after the show that there may be hope out there. I would love to think that there is a small chance that they think another station will pick them up and just don't want to say anything to the fans so we don't get disappointed if it does not happen. I just find it odd that we have not heard of the actors going to other soaps. Maybe they all just want to take a break I would not blame them. I know it is wishful thinking.

#13   2009/09/16 06:07AM
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shell03
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Yesterday was a very sad show. Alan has made me really mad through the years. I will say I have grown to really care about his character. His hand in Tammy's death really did it for me, but he changed. He has slowly became the man I know he could be. The actors did a great job yesterday. I was so glad Alan made peace with everyone. He for sure went out on a good note. No I'm sure the writers wouldn't of written him off if the show wasn't ending. I hate GL is ending and I will miss the show that has been a part of my life for over 20 years. I cried like a baby when Alan died. I think a lot of the emotion came from knowing my favorite show is ending. I wish all the actors a wonderful life and want to express how much I appreciate their talents.

#14   2009/09/16 06:57AM
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brendaleepayne
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*) I think as much as we loved to hate Alan, we never wanted to see him die. Espically this last week as he really stepped it up. I knew he had it in him. I just wish a happy ending for everyone.

#15   2009/09/16 07:08AM
Re: Too much sadness to take in
melissa62
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I agree--this week has been killer. I really thought that after Phillip and Alan came out of the hospital that they would be be okay--a happily ever after. I really think that the fans wanted this. It seems now that Phillip will feel guilty for "killing" his father--although the writers might at least give us this much and have him accept it without guilt. It was a surprise and well done if they had to do it. Have been crying at every episode for the past few weeks. Everything is rushing along now as expected. I will miss all of them greatly. Good luck and best wishes to all of the actors and actresses who have given us our daily light for so very long.

#16   2009/09/16 09:48AM
Re: Too much sadness to take in
LuluJones
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Quote mat317: Losing Alan today was shocking, sad, upsetting and actually appropriate.
1 ) As soon as I saw Phillip talking to the back of Alan's head on the bench, I said to my friends "somethings wrong here...I think he died!" I couldn't believe it.
2 ) Its almost surreal that someone that we have grown to love is snatched from us like that.
3 ) The Spaulding patriarch is dead...there will never be another Alan...just what P&G want. How can you bring back a show like GL w/o Alan Spaulding...and we thought it'd be Rick.
4 ) From my standpoint (I'm a funeral director believe it or not), they nailed Alan's whole purpose in life on the head! He always tried to bring his family together, have as much control as possible and thats what kept him here on earth. He knew most of Springfield didn't like him and it ate away at him.
Now, he does the most heroic thing a person can do and saves his son's life. Once he realized that he could do good and not have to control it, his spirit could let go. He accepted Otalia and the family. He was proud of Rafe. He was happy to be there for his son. He was celebratory at the weddings of people he was not fond of (Lewis' and Coopers).
He found peace with himself--which is what he needed. He sat a quiet place to take in the beauty of the Earth and GL and peacefully passed. Alan didn't have to control like he did--he just had to be there for others. He learned the meaning of life.


Im glad he got to see Sara before he went with the angels.

#17   2009/09/16 12:24PM
Re: Too much sadness to take in
catwoman30189
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Hi Pelfrey,

I am so glad you posted this. I was wanting to ask you if you had talked with any of the actors since the last taping. You answered my question. Like some of the others, I have watched for a very long time, 49 yrs. Please tell all of the actors you get to talk with, that they will be sorely missed and we as fans appreciate their abilities to tell the Guiding Light stories all these years.

Also, another question, since Ellen Wheeler was the producer of the show, could she have helped the show stay on TV or was it really out of everyone's hands except the sponsors because they were losing money? The reason I asked is that I saw some videos of the last few taping days and she was crying like everyone else. I had read months ago posts byt people saying how they disliked her but it may not have been anything she could do???

#18   2009/09/16 12:30PM
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calliope
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I don't know any inside stuff but I do believe Ellen Wheeler is the "whipping boy" on this. Fans want someone specific to blame and she's it. I don't believe the actors feel that way. I have read several times that they thought she was great and fought hard. She gave us the bonus 18 months with her move and hand helds.

#19   2009/09/16 01:23PM
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Bizzie Fan
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Quote calliope: I don't know any inside stuff but I do believe Ellen Wheeler is the "whipping boy" on this. Fans want someone specific to blame and she's it. I don't believe the actors feel that way. I have read several times that they thought she was great and fought hard. She gave us the bonus 18 months with her move and hand helds.
I don't know any inside stuff either, however, I really think that EW has alot to be blamed for when it comes to GL coming to an end. I have not and will not believe GL was cancelled due to ratings.

#20   2009/09/16 02:39PM
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PelphreyPosse
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I'm going to try "again" and answer Bizzie, Cat and Calliope all at one time. Yes, Ellen has become the scapegoat or whipping boy as you will. Fans want someone to blame. All I can tell you is that the people who worked with her daily and know her far better than anyone on this board, all love and revere her work ethic and how hard she worked to save this show for them, herself and us. They all have told me one time or another that but for her GL would have been gone 18 months ago. Her innovative ideas for mobile camera work and outside locations, no matter how hard fought by some of the fans, cut their budget and allowed the show to continue on until this Friday. Low ratings due in part to poor writing at times and housewives going back into the workforce and the blossoming of the internet age all contributed to the show's decline. With their budget being cut twice a year, every six months, Ellen was faced with continuing the show on less money than previous, that's why contracts that ended were renewed only with a pay cut for the actors. She takes some of the blame, has in every interview done lately, but to blame her for all of it is not only unfair and unjust, it's just disppointment talking. I've gotten to know her over the past three years and I can tell you she is a wonderful, energetic, innovative person who gave everything she had to this show. I think the opinions of the cast carry more weight than ours, tho I stand by everyone having the right to state their own personal thoughts. I've been nagging my friend who does the Pittsburg SO long Springfield event to invite Ellen to come, too. So fans can have the opportunity that I've always had and hear her out. That's the best I can do, you know how I feel about this. I've been very vocal about it for a long, long, time. Hope this gives some clarity to the issue. I'm as upset as any of you.

#21   2009/09/16 03:19PM
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Crushed
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" after what the writers have thrown at us, why should we be surprised? "


Not sure what you mean by this but IMHO it's not the writers. How could there have been any BETTER ending than what we're being given? It's not the writers, it's the money-hungry sponsors who no longer need the GL fan base.
It's so hard to get over losing just one family member, but having been with the GL family for almost 60 yrs, losing one's entire family in one fell swoop is not something most of us will ever recover fully from.
Alan's dying was something no one saw coming but to have him pass peacefully, knowing he did good and was loved is the way we should all hope to go.

#22   2009/09/16 03:31PM
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pink kiity
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didn't Allan have a brother name Brandon that he use to talk about or was that his father i also like to give my regards to the first actor who play Allan to he was a good actor to. before Ron raines took to over the part he died and them Ron raines was hire to play the part

#23   2009/09/16 03:33PM
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mamarock
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Quote pink kiity: didn't Allan have a brother name Brandon that he use to talk about or was that his father i also like to give my regards to the first actor who play Allan to he was a good actor to. before Ron raines took to over the part he died and them Ron raines was hire to play the part


Brandon was Alan's father.

#24   2009/09/16 05:16PM
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PelphreyPosse
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It was the writers' choice to kill a character off, the sponsors didn't have anything to do with that decision. That's what I meant. Also the writers' choice to pair Josh with Cassie, a move that no one wanted, the writers' choice to kill of Maureen Bauer, they thought no one would miss her, the writers' choice to kill Tammy, Grady, split up Dinah and Mallet, kill off Jenna, how far down the road of mistakes would you like me to list? My time is your time, that is what I meant!

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#25   2009/09/16 07:53PM
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shorty1943
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There is an excellent article about Kim Zimmer & GL on
tvguide.ca/soaps/suds/...the lady tells it like it is. Might answer some of the questions you have, it did for me. Thanks to Lady 53 for sharing this with us....

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