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marigolds4ever![]() |
i totally agree with you , i am going on 64 years old and been watching this show forever.i have nothing agains't people living their own lives, but i was really a little mad when they created this story line between natalia and olivia, i always fast forward their storyline. i think guiding light really goofed with this rediculous love story. |
PelphreyPosse![]() |
Actually, Shorty, it wasn't you! |
Twiztid-Jay![]() |
Emma has said that Nat is her mommy to so they are a couple and the fact that they moved in together againto the farm and the fact that everone was helping even Rafe as he was the one that had the hardest time with his mother being in love with a women if he can get past it and so can Ashley as she found out that her mother is gay to remember what the meaning of the soap was all about Tight family's and how they all come together.Frank just got moved up again to chief of police so how can he be a full time parent and its not breaking the law to be gay so if he did go for full custody then Dorris would be there lawyer and then what ground would Frank have for going for full or even custody at all Nat has told him he will be the dad to the baby and he will have his time with the baby so being the fact that the show means family as tight as it can be.SO if you don't like it you must not like the show cause there just doing what they always do showing us that family is all ever one has in life. |
NoNuke4me![]() |
Doesn't anyone find it strange that this time last year these three women were as straight as an arrow and now all of sudden they are gay?? Come on now, Doris was crazy about Alan, Natalia was marrying her childhood sweetheart(Gus), and Olivia was in love with Natalia's childhood sweetheart(Gus). Now all three are gay, it's just to big of a stretch for me. |
bigtimesoapfan![]() |
Exactly No nuke! ITA!! |
shorty1943![]() |
Glad that some of you posters are seeing things more like the way I see them, does not make us out of touch with the real world or someone that cannot accept Nat and Olivia, my thought is I do not care about them. What I do care about is that Frank not be pushed out of his babys life. I am amazed that someone says I must not like the show, I listened to it on radio and have watched it for over 55 years for goodness sake. Just because I do not fully agree with one story line out of all these years does not mean I do not like the show..one thing that I so love about these threads is that I am allowed my opinions even if they are not all the exact same opinion. Mostly I know that we are all going to be so very sad when it is over, that is certainly one thing we can all agree on.. |
Lady53![]() |
Quote shorty1943: Glad that some of you posters are seeing things more like the way I see them, does not make us out of touch with the real world or someone that cannot accept Nat and Olivia, my thought is I do not care about them. What I do care about is that Frank not be pushed out of his babys life. I am amazed that someone says I must not like the show, I listened to it on radio and have watched it for over 55 years for goodness sake. Just because I do not fully agree with one story line out of all these years does not mean I do not like the show..one thing that I so love about these threads is that I am allowed my opinions even if they are not all the exact same opinion. Mostly I know that we are all going to be so very sad when it is over, that is certainly one thing we can all agree on.. Another thought that I have, right or wrong, if this show was not ending and the writers were not trying to give us all happy endings, do not think for one second that Rafe would be all happy about his mom, he was mad as the devil a week ago and now he is happy.............good by me but it just made too big of a jump for me to believe..much like you are talking about nonuke, hard to believe that these three women have made such drastic lifestyle changes in the past year......but my point on it is I do NOT care what they are doing.....everyone enjoy the last week of a show we have all loved for many, many years, it is like losing an old friend!! I couldn't agree with you more. Frank and Natalia are the only ones who should have a say in anything and everything pertaining to the baby. Nat and O can be their little family if they choose to, but when it comes to the baby, it's only Nat and Frank, legally and consciously. |
MarMall![]() |
So just because there's nothing that can be done about storylines we shouldn't be complaining about them? Yeah I think not. |
shorty1943![]() |
Thank you, Thank you posters that see things the way I do....was getting a little spooked because so many were really blasting me for the way I feel about this story. Of course they were not even reading what I was writing, they just made their minds up that I was against Olivia and Natalie.....far from it but by gosh I hate the way they are taking over Franks place with "his" baby. Thank you for your support and for posting it. I feel that baby must be raised with his/her mom and dad......just as Emma needs to have her mom and dad.............thanks again.. |
NoNuke4me![]() |
Quote shorty1943: Thank you, Thank you posters that see things the way I do....was getting a little spooked because so many were really blasting me for the way I feel about this story. Of course they were not even reading what I was writing, they just made their minds up that I was against Olivia and Natalie.....far from it but by gosh I hate the way they are taking over Franks place with "his" baby. Thank you for your support and for posting it. I feel that baby must be raised with his/her mom and dad......just as Emma needs to have her mom and dad.............thanks again.. No I agree with you Shorty, this is no more Olivia's baby than Emma is Frank's. If she wants to let Olivia have a say in Frank's baby's life then how about letting Frank have some say in Emma's life. So we have Emma an the unborn baby, Phillip and Frank are the two's daddies and Olivia and Natalia are the two's mommies so all four have a say in both the kids life?? sound fair?? I didn't think so, Natalia and Olivia aren't married and they didn't create the baby. It's Frank and Natalia's baby and Olivia needs to stay out of it. |
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TOK715 |
Actually, some people do call their step parents 'mom' or 'dad'. I call my stepfather 'dad'. He's the man who raised me, took me to karate, taught me how to fish and how to skate. He was also the one who grounded me, told me to pull my head out of my arse and every other thing a 'real' parent would do. And yes, at this time my bio dad was in the picture. |
PelphreyPosse![]() |
TOK, trust you to bring some logic to this discussion which was getting out of hand. Two mommies, 6 mommies, 2 dads, 4 dads, all that really matters is that they all agree on what is best for the child. Everyone who is involved in the child's life should have input. You don't believe that grandparents don't have a say in how things go???????????? Then you never met my parents!!!! |
merrymary![]() |
I wasn't going to enter this discussion, but here goes. Since I jumped in feet first, in my opinion, I NEVER was for a N & O partnership. If the writers wanted us to come into the new age, then I'll stay in the old one. I taught children with 2 mommies, and these children were confused when parent's night came around. They felt they had to explain why they had two mommies or dads. I, personnally don't care if two men or women want to be together that's their thing, why bring children into the fold? Frank, is the natural father, and O needs to butt out of this child's life. Let Frank and Nat name their own baby. I disliked this storyline from the beginning, and had many people snap back at my opinion. Enough said! |
lorree![]() |
I am trying ever so hard here in putting a grandparents roll in a childs life compared to two women/men that are in a relationship............how can there even be a question in all of that. Certainly you can have step parents, adoptive parents, etc and have two mommies, two daddies, grandparents, etc.......but if you think that the majority of people see that the same as two mommies/daddies that are in a love relationship as the same, that is just not true. Call me old fashioned a bigot, whatever but don't try to make me think that the kids do not suffer because of it...merrymary, you are so right, the kids are the ones that suffer. Some people can be open minded about same sex relationships all they want, it does indeed create problems that last a lifetime!! Just my opinion... |
keytonblows![]() |
Quote TOK715: Actually, some people do call their step parents 'mom' or 'dad'. I call my stepfather 'dad'. He's the man who raised me, took me to karate, taught me how to fish and how to skate. He was also the one who grounded me, told me to pull my head out of my arse and every other thing a 'real' parent would do. And yes, at this time my bio dad was in the picture. I dont think of my stepfather as 'John'. And when people ask who my 'Dad' is I don't refer to my biological father. He took a step back some time ago. Had he not, I'd have three parents and think nothing of it. As it stands I have two wonderful parents, one of whom I don't happen to share blood with. I think we have to realize that families are changing and just because you don't share DNA with someone doesn't make you incapable of becoming a family. Liv and Nat are together, they are parents, they are parenting children. Just because the new baby (or even Emma)have fathers doesn't mean they can't have two mothers. Granted, Olivia would be the new baby's 'stepmom', but I would argue that so long as the child is loved and feels Olivia is its mother, that distinction is rather pointless. And as with any parenting, consensus or compromise should ideally be reached between parents about what's best for the child. The only difference with three parents (rather than two) is that there is a little more negotiating to go through. So long as everyone is reasonable, there shouldn't be an issue. One major flaw in your theory, Natalia and Olivia aren't married and I don't see Frank letting Olivia adopt his baby. Olivia isn't a step-parent because last time I checked you had to be married to be a step-parent. |
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