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Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones

Started by tbean at 2009/06/19 06:50AM
Latest post: 2009/06/22 04:51PM, Views: 660, Replies: 26
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#11   2009/06/19 02:29PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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Quote NoNuke4me:
Quote SassyFrass: ....but Rafe telling her to go to hell, is the pot calling the kettle black! He is a thug himself, and even got his girlfriend pregnant, and then aborted the baby! So does he really have the odasity to stand there and disrespect her because of who she loves? GMAB!

I do not want this to turn into a religoius debate, and that is not my intention. I am simply saying that while I understand the confusion and fustration, there are still no excuses for his smart mouth.


I don't post here that often, but I was bored and reading through some of these comments and I noticed you said "got his girlfriend pregnant(true) and aborted the baby." Daisy had the abortion without Rafe knowing about it, if he had known he would have never allowed it and was devastated when he found out she had the abortion.
As for his mother working 4 jobs to pay for a lawyer, I don't remember Rafe asking her to do that she took it upon herself to do that.
Just got one more observation or maybe really a question, why hasn't Natalia and Olivia came out and told everyone they are in love instead of keeping it a secret and hiding it? They were trying to hide it from Rafe, Natalia didn't tell Marina I didn't marry your dad because I'm in love with Olivia. Then there is Olivia making out with Josh and leading Matt on, why not just stop them in their tracks and say hey not interested I'm in love with Natalia? If their not ashamed of what they are doing shouldn't they be open about it?


1. If Rafe did not know about the abortion, he still did not treat Daisy bad over it...and that directly affected him!! His mother's relationship does not! Obviously Rafe acted more mature at 17 than he does at 20!

2. No child demands their parent to take care of them. Natalia did it out of love and responsibility. He could show her the same consideration instead of spitting in her face when she needs him!

3. It is not Olivia and Natalia's job to "out" themselves at every possible venue. (ex: "would you like fries with that Ms. Spencer"..."Ah, no Lynn, however, I am in love with Natalia!". Seems a bit ridiculous, eh? They do not have to tell anyone until they are ready.

4. O did tell Matt and Josh she was not interested.

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#12   2009/06/19 03:06PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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Quote SassyFrass:
Quote NoNuke4me:
Quote SassyFrass: ....but Rafe telling her to go to hell, is the pot calling the kettle black! He is a thug himself, and even got his girlfriend pregnant, and then aborted the baby! So does he really have the odasity to stand there and disrespect her because of who she loves? GMAB!

I do not want this to turn into a religoius debate, and that is not my intention. I am simply saying that while I understand the confusion and fustration, there are still no excuses for his smart mouth.


I don't post here that often, but I was bored and reading through some of these comments and I noticed you said "got his girlfriend pregnant(true) and aborted the baby." Daisy had the abortion without Rafe knowing about it, if he had known he would have never allowed it and was devastated when he found out she had the abortion.
As for his mother working 4 jobs to pay for a lawyer, I don't remember Rafe asking her to do that she took it upon herself to do that.
Just got one more observation or maybe really a question, why hasn't Natalia and Olivia came out and told everyone they are in love instead of keeping it a secret and hiding it? They were trying to hide it from Rafe, Natalia didn't tell Marina I didn't marry your dad because I'm in love with Olivia. Then there is Olivia making out with Josh and leading Matt on, why not just stop them in their tracks and say hey not interested I'm in love with Natalia? If their not ashamed of what they are doing shouldn't they be open about it?


1. If Rafe did not know about the abortion, he still did not treat Daisy bad over it...and that directly affected him!! His mother's relationship does not! Obviously Rafe acted more mature at 17 than he does at 20!

2. No child demands their parent to take care of them. Natalia did it out of love and responsibility. He could show her the same consideration instead of spitting in her face when she needs him!

3. It is not Olivia and Natalia's job to "out" themselves at every possible venue. (ex: "would you like fries with that Ms. Spencer"..."Ah, no Lynn, however, I am in love with Natalia!". Seems a bit ridiculous, eh? They do not have to tell anyone until they are ready.

4. O did tell Matt and Josh she was not interested.


Yes Rafe did treat her bad and was all over her about it and that is why they broke up because she didn't tell him she was pregnant and because of the abortion.
As for them "outing" themselves when they order a meal that is not what I said. I was simply saying when Marina was giving her a hard time about Frank why didn't she tell Marina why they broke up instead of having Marina think it was because she was just using Frank. How about all the conversations Natalia and Rafe had after he got out of prison where Rafe asked her what happen between her and Frank? Why didn't she just tell him she is in love with Olivia instead of hiding it? She had plenty of opportunities to tell Rafe the truth and she hid it from him because she is ashamed of what she is doing. If I was in love with someone I wouldn't hide it from my kids or my family unless I felt ashamed of the person.
How is making out with Josh telling him your not interested? She didn't tell Matt she was seeing anyone she just she had to go she was late or something like that.

#13   2009/06/19 03:13PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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Actually, Liv told Blake point blank that Josh wasn't what she was looking for. And when Matt was talking to Frank, he told Frank that Olivia shot him down, because she did, she declined his invite for a 'hike' and walked off.

Nat didnt tell Marina b/c it's none of her business. The girl was being a busybody as usual. I think at this point the kids should just stay out of their parents love lives.

#14   2009/06/19 03:33PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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That's fine, Natalia can just let people go on thinking she was using Frank to help Rafe and that she is taking advantage of Frank. If they are a couple they sure don't act like it when other people are around. It's okay though everyone can't keep kidding themselves if they want but the truth is they don't want people to know and they are trying to keep it a secret because they know not everyone is going to be as accepting as Frank was.

#15   2009/06/19 09:40PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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Rafe needs to grow up. He seems to laugh at everything his mother has to say and I am not sure it that is what the actors have asked of him or he is just a a guy that wears his bb-hat backwards.

Did he get raped in prison perhaps and that seems to be an issue? I'm trying to figure his attitude.

He seems to want a real life and he isn't a child. Would I have trouble, Yes, but would I act like it is the end of the world. NO.

Frank doesn't help either and as far as the Catholic priest. Don't Get me Started, and I am Catholic. For him to say he doesn't approve. What???? Many of the Cath/priest are on a long list of shouldn't haves. JMO but I will say that it very close to my heart and home.

If I can forgive then GL really needs to not bring this in as as story line. JMO again.

#16   2009/06/19 09:49PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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I did want to add that I don't have issues with Nat and Oli, it is the priest, Rafe and Frank that I am upset about. Oli spoke to Jeffrey and he said pretty much go for it. Phillip was ok with it. We all need to feel loved and regardless of the sex, it is what it is and we are only here for 100 yrs.

GL has been here for close to that.

#17   2009/06/20 11:59AM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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Quote tbean: I think that Rafe is being totaly irational. Since he has been on the show he has been in Juvie and prison and knocked his girlfriend up. Natalia stuck by him and did all that she could for him. But know that she is in love he is a great christian throwing the bible at her GMAB.
For goodness sakes they havent even done anything yet so she has not commited any sin. Unlike her son



I agree he is being irational. He really needs to get a grip becasue Natalia has stood by him through a lot. He says he just wants his mother to be happy when she was getting ready to get marry but obviously that's not true otherwise he would accept her choices in life. If it's wrong then she would need to figure that out not him. He should relly stand by her and I think eventually he will and Olivia and Nat will end up together, at least I hope so.It's a love story and you can see that these two women are in love with one another. I wish people would just get over the gender thing already. It's getting old! I thank G/L for bringing such a wonderful love story in to play regardless of the fact that it's two women. It's all good

#18   2009/06/20 07:09PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
EdgeOfNight
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Rafe is the most boring person in the show.
All he does is mope around feeling sorry for himself.
He only cares about himself and when I see him on
I just fast forward.

#19   2009/06/20 08:31PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
Prettymellow
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EdgeOfNight

Now that is a soap I loved. I smiled when I saw your post name, thanks for the mem's.

#20   2009/06/21 03:17AM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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Quote TOK715: Rafe does have the right to be confused about his mother's choices. Maybe even a little angry that his mother didn't come to him sooner. What he doesn't have the right to do is disrespect his mother and tell her she's going to hell. That woman worked 4 jobs to pay for a lawyer so she could get his sorry a$$ out of jail. A little more gratitude and little less 'woe is me' on Rafe's part wouldn't be out of the question.


And that says it all!

#21   2009/06/22 09:57AM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
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Quote EdgeOfNight: Rafe is the most boring person in the show.
All he does is mope around feeling sorry for himself.
He only cares about himself and when I see him on
I just fast forward.


Yeah I do the same thing when Remy, natalia or olivia are on, hit that fast forward and move on to something interesting.

#22   2009/06/22 04:51PM
Re: Rafe peoplein glass houses shouldnt throw stones
Prettymellow
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Quote keytonblows:
Quote EdgeOfNight: Rafe is the most boring person in the show.
All he does is mope around feeling sorry for himself.
He only cares about himself and when I see him on
I just fast forward.


Yeah I do the same thing when Remy, natalia or olivia are on, hit that fast forward and move on to something interesting.


Ditto

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