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Olivia and Natalia...

Started by drunkengoddess at 2009/05/20 03:59PM
Latest post: 2009/06/01 07:03AM, Views: 2517, Replies: 32
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#11   2009/05/27 06:41PM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
namesake
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They'll get there.

I think the slow pace is perfect when you consider what much of this SL is about. This long and oh so well developed love story is as much if not more about the evolution and redemption of Olivia Spenser than it is about anything else.

Olivia's character has truly changed and continues to change and the fact that she is willing to do things so differently than she has in the past, including delaying sex, or at least making it more about commitment and love is really beautiful and inspirational. True love is her guide and she's willing to be patient, respect Nat's faith and beliefs, and let Nat be her guide.

In the meantime I'm thoroughly enjoying the courtship, long lingering glances and unabashed flirting. So nice to have something to long for and anticipate for a change.

#12   2009/05/28 06:17AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
slim1
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I agree, I like the way it's going. Yes they will get there sooner or later.

#13   2009/05/28 03:48PM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
lucy100
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I am not against anything in this world, but this s/l is boring. I am not sitting in front of my TV waiting for them to kiss again. I read the blogs. Super couple, give me a break, the only thing that is super is Nat's belly and O's straight hair.

#14   2009/05/28 05:16PM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
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I am not sitting in front of my TV waiting for them to kiss again. I read the blogs. Super couple, give me a break, the only thing that is super is Nat's belly and O's straight hair.


LOL - IMO, we just have to accept the circumstances. If JL wasn't preggers things might be a bit different with pacing. As it is, a kiss with a 3-4 month delay until a love scene would make people even more crazy. So they delay the kiss until they're ready to move into love scene territory (I believe it will follow shortly) but they can't do a love scene until JL is back from her leave. In her podcast, CC said that there are intimate scenes coming up that she thought were really good and the crew did as well. If CC, who has been on soaps for nearly 20 years, thinks the scenes are good, then I trust her.

So really what choice does anyone have but to sit back and enjoy the build? In Soapland everything goes downhill once a couple truly commits on all levels. Then it's affairs, murder, blackmail, comas, memory loss etc. I far prefer the long "getting together" part to the inevitable pulling apart once they actually are together in every way.

#15   2009/05/29 06:50AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
d1amondqn
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[quote]Quote GLwatchr: [quote]
In Soapland everything goes downhill once a couple truly commits on all levels. Then it's affairs, murder, blackmail, comas, memory loss etc. I far prefer the long "getting together" part to the inevitable pulling apart once they actually are together in every way.[/quote]

I agree with this statement 100%!!!! We want a couple )any couple) to get together so badly. Then we expect a "happily ever after" when they do. That's never how it works. Then we scream for the writers to let our couple have a little time to be happy before the next drama; that never seems to work.

I think that with this type of relationship, there is so much drama and fear to work through before it's an "official" relationship in viewers' eyes. The writers are doing a great job of letting the fans think about the relationship for awhile before proceeding to the next phase.

I know Jessica is due in June and that they tape ahead of time. I'm not sure how far ahead the taping is. If anybody could answer that, I'd appreciate it. Does anybody know the maternity leave time also? I hope they have enough taped ahead to last throughout most of the leave.

#16   2009/05/29 07:47AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
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They are friends thats it! They are both confusing friendship and love since O has never had a real female friend and Nat has been so busy being a single mom and now that her hubby is dead and o has his heart she is confused! Hopefully Rafe being home will smack some sense into her!!

#17   2009/05/29 08:01AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: They are friends thats it! They are both confusing friendship and love since O has never had a real female friend and Nat has been so busy being a single mom and now that her hubby is dead and o has his heart she is confused! Hopefully Rafe being home will smack some sense into her!!


I am not an Oprah fan but her show today is about real women who fall for other women late in life. I think this is a great eye opener and we all can learn something from it. I encourage people to watch as I will. I would love to hear people reactions to Otalia after they watch this program. I hope we all can relate and settle the "friendship" debate once and for all!!

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#18   2009/05/29 09:13AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
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Still don't buy it!! IMO even that!! They probably couldn't find a man who wanted them and settled! I know this sounds awful but heres why I am overweight and have been most of my life. All through hs I always wanted a boyfriend but non would give me the time of day! I made many mistakes(with men) looking for one to "love" me, When I finally got with my hubby my self esteem was so low I probably would have fell for anyone( we knew each other from school) I just think it's nuts!! I think it's settling because they don't want to be alone and honestly who better than a women to know what we like!!

#19   2009/05/29 12:42PM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
GLwatchr
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: Still don't buy it!! IMO even that!! They probably couldn't find a man who wanted them and settled! I know this sounds awful but heres why I am overweight and have been most of my life. All through hs I always wanted a boyfriend but non would give me the time of day! I made many mistakes(with men) looking for one to "love" me, When I finally got with my hubby my self esteem was so low I probably would have fell for anyone( we knew each other from school) I just think it's nuts!! I think it's settling because they don't want to be alone and honestly who better than a women to know what we like!!


I appreciate you telling your story, but do you honestly think Olivia has to "settle" for Natalia because she has low self esteem? Or Nat is settling for Olivia because she doesn't want to be alone? If Nat wanted to settle she could have had Frank who she didn't love but would have provided a home and companionship. Taking this path is far harder on both of them then just staying friends.

Look, I was straight until I met my partner. She had been married. These things happen. People fall in love. We've been together 15 years now. It's not rocket science. Up until now this this particular story hasn't been told on a soap. But it happens all the time.

#20   2009/05/30 06:13AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
bigtimesoapfan
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I don't get it! I have friends that are gay but we don't discuss it!! They do get mad @ me for my opinion but @ the same time understand my point of view! I'm not always the most eloquent and many times I open mouth insert foot!!

#21   2009/05/30 12:32PM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
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Apparently both Olivia and Natalia both realize that the pair of them being viewed as a couple is an unconventional type of relationship which is viewed by society as being taboo or else they would be open to everyone that they are a couple if that is what they are...However, I am still under the assumption that they are very good friends and it is not a physical relationship. Just because little Emma has labeled Olivia and Natalia "My two Mommies" doesn't make them a couple. There are plenty of children being raised by a Mommy with the help of a Nanny whom the child sees as his/her two Mommies, but that doesn't make all Mommy/Nanny pairings a couple.

#22   2009/05/31 06:05AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
bigtimesoapfan
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Has that poor kid Even seen her Dad yet?

#23   2009/05/31 09:47AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
GLwatchr
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: Has that poor kid Even seen her Dad yet?


Yes, Emma has seen Philip. That happened a while ago.

#24   2009/05/31 09:54AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
bigtimesoapfan
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Missed it! I watch sometimes between commercials( im a GH watcher). O is letting him near her? Thats new!

#25   2009/05/31 10:01AM
Re: Olivia and Natalia...
GLwatchr
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: Missed it! I watch sometimes between commercials( im a GH watcher). O is letting him near her? Thats new!


It was back when Philip first returned. Emma was with her nanny Jane and ran into Philip at Company. But Natalia also visited Philip without Olivia knowing and wanted to figure out a way for Philip to have a relationship with his daughter. Over time, she has been making the case to Olivia that Emma should have a relationship with her father. I'm sure they'll address this in the future. Olivia still doesn't know that it was Alan, not Philip who did all those horrible things to her and Emma. Once she finds out the truth, I speculate she'll forgive Philip and allow Emma to have a relationship with him.

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