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Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?

Started by talkingsis at 2009/05/05 12:08PM
Latest post: 2009/06/04 05:35AM, Views: 4473, Replies: 102
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#41   2009/05/21 06:36AM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
bigtimesoapfan
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Quote hellomynameistrouble:
Quote talkingsis: I think it ruined the show when they decided to put Olivia and Natalia as lovers. Its wrong and after over 20 years of watching GL, Im done. SO why did they mess a good thing up? we may never know. and I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way.


I agree with you ! The thing that really bothers me is the fact that they made a good devout Catholic girl turn her back on God !... I bet the gay and lesbian viewers would be upset if a lesbian couple moved to town and one lesbian saw the error of her ways and became a nun ! UUUGGGHHH ! Why are they always making Christians look bad on TV ? !

Unfortunatley because they can! But us christians speak up the same way were bigots and many other rude names! I still say I miss my 80's soaps where you saw the couple go into the bedroom and then come out! we all know what happened behind closed doors, do we need to see it? I think Not!!(and that goes for any couple, I wish oltl had done that on the sex scene between Marco and Langston, while my head knows the actors are of age the mommy in me was screaming NO there only in H.S.!!!!!)

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#42   2009/05/22 07:06AM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
d1amondqn
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Bigtimesoapfan, I think you have a good point. I believe they are in love...but maybe not agape love. It may be a strong platonic love. Since they aren't sure because neither has had such a strong connection with a close friend, they are exploring what it may be. Nat is really hesitant to take a commitment move such as a kiss so I think this relationship could go either way. I like the fact that the writers are dragging their feet so they can get an idea from the fans as to which way to take the sl. Of course, it could be Jessica's pregnancy. Either way, whether it is passionate love or deep friendship love, I think most women have asked themsleves teh same thing at some point. It's great that the writers have explored this option; it makes women who have felt like this feel less like they're alone; it's natural to have those feelings.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a homosexual relationship done right on TV. Why does it have to be deemed inappropriate if it relatese to "real" life?

Of course, most of the plots/sls in soap operas don't happen in real life, which is why we like them so much, isn't it? What an exciting life these characters live! I wish my life could have that type of excitement! Isn't that what we like about them? why they came to be? Housewives needed to see an outside world as they stayed at home and cooked and cleaned. If that's not the case anymore, why are soaps still on? opps. There I go pondering life again. sorry.

#43   2009/05/22 10:35AM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
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When they began this storyline I was totally against it. How could two women of their age suddenly turn into lesbians? As the story has progressed, I have changed my thoughts! These are two women exploring their feelings for one another and questioning their own sexuality in a very thoughtful, sensitive way. Neither one can really understand what she is feeling. I'm glad the writers are taking a slow approach with this story.

#44   2009/05/22 01:08PM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
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Quote maryann54: When they began this storyline I was totally against it. How could two women of their age suddenly turn into lesbians? As the story has progressed, I have changed my thoughts! These are two women exploring their feelings for one another and questioning their own sexuality in a very thoughtful, sensitive way. Neither one can really understand what she is feeling. I'm glad the writers are taking a slow approach with this story.


I completely agree, maryann54. That's one of the things I love about Otalia is how they are taking their time, not rushing into anything. They are slowly learning what it is they are to each other and the depth of their love for each other, and they don't want to spoil that. As Natalia said, "I take this very seriously, and I want to do it right". This is a beautiful love story unfolding before our eyes, and I feel priviledged to be witnessing it. The writers, CC & JL are all doing an amazing job! And I absolutely loved Wednesday's episode. It was so cute with all the flirting...these two have an incredible chemistry.

#45   2009/05/22 01:13PM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
youmakemehappy
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Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a homosexual relationship done right on TV. Why does it have to be deemed inappropriate if it relatese to "real" life?


I too would like to see a gay relationship done right, d1amondqn. Too often, such relationships are done for shock value or for ratings. There are people out there who are living this s/l. It is like real life. And I am really happy to see Otalia being shown as a love story above all else, and that it is being treated with such respect.

#46   2009/05/24 11:50PM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
Michelle08
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lmao! when I read "Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?" I instantly thought, how can a beautifully written love story mess up any show..the Otalia storyline does not come from a perverse place at all and it has no faults..it is truly amazing and slow-building storytelling and the writers have been working on this story for a couple of years now..it's not something that just popped out of nowhere. between the two characters the love they feel was unexpected..but the writers have been developing this story for a while. It is a well written love story..and it doesn't matter the make-up.

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#47   2009/05/25 04:38PM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
Sam Ross
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in my opinion, otalia is just a still very deep friendship since they have not consummated it. if this was a straight relationship, the couple definitely would not have waited this long.

in fact, it's just been too long. i was never a fan since i don't believe either one of those characters is really gay.

i've lost interest.

#48   2009/05/25 05:12PM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
GLwatchr
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Quote Sam Ross: in my opinion, otalia is just a still very deep friendship since they have not consummated it. if this was a straight relationship, the couple definitely would not have waited this long.

in fact, it's just been too long. i was never a fan since i don't believe either one of those characters is really gay.

i've lost interest.


The Otalia slow build a stylistic choice that has been much discussed. Of course they could have consummated the day after the love declaration - even the actresses have addressed this. But since it took nearly two years to get Olivia/Natalia to this point it wouldn't have been true to the way they're telling the story. If they'd decided to slow build a straight story it would be the same. It took Bo and Carly on Days a few years to get together as I recall. Not to mention Jessica was very pregnant by the wedding - so moving right into a love scene was never really an option. In any case, labeling the characters as gay or straight misses the point of the story. It's two people that slowly fell in love and they happen to both be women.

#49   2009/05/26 04:46AM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
phyllist
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Quote mamarock: For the umpteenth time...all sls are not for everybody! I don't stop watching because of the M&M snoozefest. If you don't want to watch don't, what else can I say, it has all been said a million times.

True GL fans always watch! I'm sure I will catch static over this, but I am so tired of people saying this and that ruined GL...You either love it or you don't...just stop watching and stop whining to us about it!


Amen, sister! I've probably been a fan for 55 years, cause Mother and I listened on the radio, then on tv, till she died. I've changed my work hours so that I could rush home and watch The Light. Now I use DVR.

I will grieve the loss of GL like the old friend that it is.

#50   2009/05/27 05:45PM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
Nichole43119
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I also find it amazing that people have no issues with watching a soap where cousins sleep with 1st cousins, wife's cheat on their husbands, and husbands cheat on their wives. A show where fathers shoot their sons and fathers kill their daughter's boyfriend. We have no issue with baby kidnappers, mafia families, corrupt police officers, and dirty business men... but GOD FORBID there be a lesbian couple. Now we have to turn off the t.v. LOL

Over 10% of the population is gay. At least 7 states in some form or fashion honor gay marriages/unions. It is time that people stopped thinking that this is the "old American" where no one matter but the majority. In "New America" all voices and opinions matter no matter how small, are heard.

I for one love this story line. As pointed out.. Oprah has did countless stories about men/woman being married for 10+ years and then deciding they were gay. I love the way they didn't move this story line fast. That would have only promoted the sterotypes about homosexuals. They let it flourish and become real to the viewers.

So to all who hate this s/l. I guess you now know what it fells to be in the miniority ( if you didn't already) because the stats show that viewers are digging this s/l a lot.

Go Nat & Olivia!

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#51   2009/05/28 08:48AM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
d1amondqn
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Quote Nichole43119: I also find it amazing that people have no issues with watching a soap where cousins sleep with 1st cousins, wife's cheat on their husbands, and husbands cheat on their wives. A show where fathers shoot their sons and fathers kill their daughter's boyfriend. We have no issue with baby kidnappers, mafia families, corrupt police officers, and dirty business men... but GOD FORBID there be a lesbian couple. Now we have to turn off the t.v. LOL


That's wonderfully hilarious and perfectly accurate!

#52   2009/05/28 11:38AM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
jmdeeg
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I have no objection to a homosexual relationship between Nat and O., but must bring up a troubling point (for myself, only!)....I miss the tantalizing quality of Olivia's fascinaing eyes when she was going in for the "kill" on some guy...haven't seen a bit of this with Nat...what have I missed? jdvermeer

#53   2009/05/28 05:30PM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
GLwatchr
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Quote jmdeeg: I have no objection to a homosexual relationship between Nat and O., but must bring up a troubling point (for myself, only!)....I miss the tantalizing quality of Olivia's fascinaing eyes when she was going in for the "kill" on some guy...haven't seen a bit of this with Nat...what have I missed? jdvermeer


Wow, I don't know how you are missing it? This comment surprises me as most Otalia fans have been transfixed by Olivia's "kill" eyes for some time. She seems to be looking at Nat in that way in every scene to me. Today she was shameless about it. I think the difference is that the men Olivia went after all succumbed to Liv's kill eyes very quickly (being guys). Nat is resisting for many reasons as we all know. There was some line that Alan said once about Olivia being "what everyone wants" and he was right. It will only be a matter of time before Nat gives in to the eyes, lol.

#54   2009/05/29 06:06AM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
bigtimesoapfan
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All I see is two women bonding over their grief!! Natalia loved her husband(jake AMC) Olivia loved him too, and now she has his heart! Olivia has never had a really good friend and I think Nat has been so busy raising a child as a single parent to make real friends! They May "love" each other but it's not romantic even though the writers are trying to take it that route!! It's the dumbest s/l I've ever seen (next to DOOL and the Island)!! I think they are confused and once they actually "hit the sheets" they'll both wake up and smell the roses!! Hopefully with Rafe home he'll help his mom to wake up from dreamland!!

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#55   2009/05/29 09:14AM
Re: Why did they have to mess up the show with Olivia and Natalia's new found relationship?
dizzyfan
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Quote talkingsis: I think it ruined the show when they decided to put Olivia and Natalia as lovers. Its wrong and after over 20 years of watching GL, Im done. SO why did they mess a good thing up? we may never know. and I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way.


I totally agree with you. It makes me sick to watch the episodes between these two. Olivia is a maneater and it is out of her character to go for a woman. Natalia is a good moral person and this is definitely not in her character. Pick out two others who would suit this persona if you are looking for a gay plot!!

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