Guiding Light - MESSAGE BOARDS

Well Dim, I can't argue with you about how fabulously fantastic old s/ls were - how truly soapy it all was. I see both sides of this - and maybe it is too late (for EW)to redeem herself, I dunno. I think she had a lot of high hopes, were they really what the fans wanted - obviously not. But I will also say that in all the behind-the-scenes footage that I have seen in the last year in pretty much each and every one of them you will see EW running around and working....I don't know how many other EPs on the other soaps are actually as hands-on as she is.

In regards to the Orlando shoot, you are right it didn't really have a "real" suspense filled purpose, but I highly enjoyed it. I didn't expect any "grand" story-telling out of it, maybe? But I thoroughly just enjoyed the fun of it all...maybe just the characters out of SF. It just had a fresh feel to me...and of course you know I loved Bill's proposal coming out of it.

I, personally, expected SO much more out of the return of Evil Eddy and have been thorougly disgusted with what they did with that.

I hope JLH isn't a one-story writer because she is fabulous. We the viewers can definitely tell what she is writing, and what the dipsh!t is still in-charge of.

The sky is the limit with Guiding Light - The possibilities are really endless of where this could all go. I'm with you Dim I will follow GL to the moon if I have to

It's okay to to disagree and see things differently, I too have in the past seen them the way you see them - so I know exactly what you're talking about.

See I am good for something - I cracked the case wide open and solved the mystery for ya

Yeah, means well and a nickel will get ya nuttin..lol.

With Ellen behind the wheel, they should schedule it on Cartoon Network before Scooby Doo and After the Jetsons! Dont dare put it next to The Simpsons. Bart's Springfield seems more exciting than Ellen'S!

Dim you always are good for a laugh. When things are good on GL you never credit Ellen for any of it and when things are bad, you blame her for everything. It's a shame that you have never had the opportunity to see the show up close and personal and watch it being taped and meet her face to face and see how she is loved by EVERYONE who meets her. I respect your right to have a different opinion, but, in this case you really don't have the facts! She is so respected in the upper management levels, and by the cast and crew alike. This is not her first soap, and she is an excellent actress to boot. I think you are just disappointed in the show and taking your frustrations out on the leader. When the show moves, she'll move with it and me and lots of others, how about you????????????????????

PP, by you saying when the show moves, does this mean that there is good news that GL is going to continue? Have you heard anything lately that you can pass along? I am trying so hard to keep my hopes up that some other network will pick GL up.

BUT, the people who run things there, who know FAR more about this than you and I do, have chosen to leave her at the helm for all this time, think back to all the E.P.'s who have come and gone in very brief periods because they did not produce what TPTB were looking for in an executive producer. Don't you think they know what good really is? You and I can debate till the cows come home, but what do we really know except for what we like to see in storylines? What I'm trying to say is, someone else besides me thinks she has done a good job, or she would be HISTORY.

PP, I agree with you. I don't blame Ellen at all, who do I blame? The individual stations. When I got married and moved to Sacramento, GL wasn't carried by our local CBS affiliate. I had to ask my mom to tape a week's worth and send it to me. I also heard a few stations carried the show around 2 am. One station I saw aired the previous day's episode. When my husband died after a brief two year marriage. I was glad to move back home to continug watching GL with my mother until her passing a year and a half ago. That is what killed GL on CBS.

[quote]Quote D28IF: [quote]Quote Dimlights: [quote]Quote D28IF: I hope Ellen Wheeler stays in place.

Im sorry! Ellen would have to go as well as David Kreizman. They have been at GL for over 4 years and have accomplished nothing. You can thank Jill Hurst for Otalia, and Phillip's return and Shinah as well as Bizzie madness! I pray that when OR if Guiding Light gets another shot in the arm its under the leadership of a new team. I wont go if Ellen goes.... then it will be the end of GL..... FOR ME. I just havent been entertained the last year or so.[/quote]


I completely respect that this hasn't been your cup of tea. If you haven't enjoyed this past year, then maybe EW's methods aren't for you.

For me, who returned to GL after many years, I've found my enjoyment of GL has only grown to the point that I can't stay away. Every other time I checked in with GL over the years I was gone within a few months. As AShiraz said, Ellen actually sits with Jill and reads through the Otalia scripts before passing them on to Crystal & Jessica, so they know they have them right. Who takes that much interest, that much care in a storyline? It shows both of their dedication in getting this one right for their audience.

Also, Ellen's been handed slashed budgets after bad news, hand over first, by CBS for the longest time. And to borrow Blithedale's phrase (reworded), has made lemonade out of lemons. The new production model was jarring at first and took awhile not only for the audience to get used to but the show itself to learn how to properly work. For me, the shaky camerawork is few and far between. The new way of filming only helps add to the intimacy of the scenes, so the impact is that much greater. That could never be achieved with the standard 3-camera shoot.

This is down to EW.[/quote]


I think i would have to agree with you. Its pretty obvious that if the show started failing when EW started.. ummm its pretty self explainatory, to me it is anyway.There wouldnt be so many budget cuts and low ratings if the writing was good. There is nothing wrong with the actors, they take what is thrown at them.

My deal with EW is that she either let Grant walk or pushed him...either way is unforgivable! This is not rocket science people...give the viewers what they want and it's easy money. Start putting your own opinions/views of what your target audience wants and you loose your audience. Let your personality clash with a beloved star...loose the star, loose the audience. This is what happened to GL and other soaps. Sure it's a hard industry to be in right now...but Y&R isn't going anywhere or GH. They will be here till the cows come home...because those EP know what the audience wants....it's beloved characters living and loving and they are KEEPING THE CHARACTERS and give the audience the SEX, LIES AND CATFIGHTS! That keep 'em coming back for more!