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Posted by Cynic at Friday, October 30 2009 02:42 AM

Zenyatta, if Claudia's demise is going to be to be at the hands of the last person you suspect, then I guess it will be Johnny who will be forced to act, probably to protect Olivia. Unless Anthony has escaped from Jail!

My post above speculated that Rick Lansing would appear and spirit her away to Italy. I wish!

Posted by zenyatta at Friday, October 30 2009 02:54 AM

Now I've read all the comments up to 4:45 EST.

To : sunrise, cell, Bridget's mommy, Soapnexis, Mommy K & luluroya, somehow I've missed your posts before. I'll sure keep my out for them now.

msbs: I read these posts for a long time before I posted but now I'm almost addicted to it. I come here every day to "get my fix". I hope we hear a lot from you.

rcknrobin: I was a "lurker" too. Isn't it s lot more fun when you actually start to comment yourself? You said "I hope my posts will add something". They already have. As far as Claudia's actions go, some of them were pretty bad but look at the way she was brought up & the people around her. Look at some of the things that Sonny, Jason, AZ, Johnny & even Sam have done. Then Claudia doesn't look quite so bad, does she? I see we agree about the all knowing, manipulating, two-faced, arrogant, lying & too powerful Jasper Jax. Some days I actually prefer Jerry because with him you know what you're getting right up front! Dante did have a great answer when Jax tried to make him feel bad about not having taken down Sonny. I'm glad you mentioned it because I forgot to write about it.

Bean: I said the same thing about Alexis/Krystal/Olivia/Claudia. All that was missing was shoulder pads.

firebird: Right on with your comment that Jason must be pleased to have given Sonny information that gives him a reason to kill somebody else. Sonny is behind on his kill quota for this year. I think Jason does regret it on some level because this deprives him of the chance to kill Claudia himself. Oh well, there's always Jerry.

Cynic: There does always seem to be a storm the night of every party in PC as you said. If Snoopy were the local society columnist for PC, the story of every party would start "It was a dark and stormy night".

Ring: I'm so glad you commentted on the destruction Sonny & Jason have caused. I said something along those lines earlier this week. The people in the business they're in usually aren't very nice so you don't feel awfully sorry if they're killed. But every one of them has a mother, father, spouse, sibling or friend that loves them every bit as much as Jason & Sonny love Michael. They have taken hypocricy to a whole new level! Also as you mentioned Claudia has been dressing better lately. She's been looking lovely. Maybe it's a consolation prize!

Bean: We agree about everything concerning JJ's performance as Lucky. He really still does have that "baby face", doesn't he? I don't even mind that little patch of hair over his upper lip but it really doesn't help much.

4my: I am so glad you brought up Alexis's parenting skills(?). She has a fit every time Sam talks to Kristina about anything serious but she has no idea herself what Kristina's life is. She doesn't even know who Kristina is - all she knows is the facade. I thought it was really cute that Morgan & Molly rescued Johnny & the way they did it. I know they were near the warehouse to get items for a school project but why were they alone?? Alexis really needs a new nanny! So many things have happenned while the one she has now was in charge that she could be charged with child neglect. Alexis knows all this but still keeps her. That's parenting? And who was supposed to have been watching Morgan? Carly is always heralded as this exceptional mother - and in most ways she is - but why wasn't Morgan being supervised. Morgan & Molly are street smart as well as book smart, resourceful, fearless & they always want to help anyone who needs it - but they are young kids. They can't be allowed to wander around like that. Alexis doesn't like Sonny & Jason around her kids because she thinks the kids are more likely to get hurt if they are around. Let's see......Sonny & Jason had nothing to do with Kristina taking Alexis's car without permission, driving without a licence, driving Claudia off the road, causing her to miscarry & leaving the scene. When the ferris wheel collapsed at the carnival & Kristina was missing, Claudia searched for her frantically & Michael didn't give up until he found her. Claudia saved Molly's life by dragging her out of harm's way at the same accident & comforted her until somebody else could be found. When Edward's car was heading straight at Morgan it was Sonny's bodyguard - we know he's more than that but Alexis doesn't - who almost died when he threw himself in front of the car & saved Morgan's life. These were all accidents not at all related to Sonny or Jason but "as a good parent" she feels that any act she takes or decision she makes is the right one and gets furious with anyone who disagrees, no matter how tactfully they do so or what facts they might have to back up their opinion. Obviously Jax is not the only person in PC who needs a reality check. It makes perfect sense that they are best friends.

To Nobody In Particular: Most of the long time GH viewers on this site are thrilled that JJ is back as Lucky while a good percentage of viewers who have only watched since 2003 & have only seen GV as Lucky are not happy at all. That makes perfect sense & the best feature of this site is that all viewpoints are equally important. None of us are going to have the same opinion about everything. Some of us that post to each other a lot never seem to agree about most of the issues.

The one thing I do want to address is the subject that JJ is not the right age to play Lucky. JJ must be the right age because he originated the part & played Lucky when he was close to the same age. He is exactly the age that Lucky would be from the time the character appeared.

Posted by monica_sky1225 at Friday, October 30 2009 03:05 AM

even though they are going to kill claudia off, sonny should now that it was an accident and that she only ordered the hit because he held her brother jonny hostage, brutally beat him for days and threatened to kill him if he didn't tell him where micheal was(when micheal ran away). this stinks that this is happening to her when i mean she already got karma when she lost her baby, by sonny daughter running her of the road. i use to like jasons and sams character but now i don't since he always tries to play god. jason is a murderer too, he is no different then claudia, oh wait he is because claudia ordered to kill but the plan didn't fall through so she's not a murderer. looks like he's more of a sinner.

Posted by zenyatta at Friday, October 30 2009 03:07 AM

Cynic: Ric told Sonny & Jason about the DVDs & tried to play the one he stole from the house for them. Unfortunately for him, the tape was blank because Jerry had stolen it from his lawyer's safe & replaced it with a blank one. It was never exactly shown whether Sonny believed Claudia when she said it was a lie made up by Ric to frame her, make her look bad and ruin her relationship with Sonny. However as much as Jason hated & despised Ric, he believed he was telling the truth. He has always had an eye out for one of those DVDs.

You would make a much better society columnist than Snoopy. He can never get past "It was a dark and stormy night".

Are you a night owl? Usually there's nobody posting at this time but me. I usually fall asleep early & wake up around 2 or 3 & go back to bed at 5 or 6. What's your story?

Posted by monica_sky1225 at Friday, October 30 2009 03:08 AM

oh yeah i would like to add something else. what is it about these stupid secrets taking forever to come out? gets old, hurry up and let eveyone know dante is sonny's son already!

Posted by leo123 at Friday, October 30 2009 03:47 AM

Candace: Couldn't agree more! I don't like this Lucky at all. Not man enough for me. Liz looks bigger and older than him. She looks like she could take him!

Posted by BeanCounter at Friday, October 30 2009 04:52 AM

Hi Zenyatta,

As a beancounter, I was interested in your percentage ratio on who bears the responsibility. I will post my own.

Sonny-50%-He started this whole chain of events that lead to Michael's shooting.

Claudia-20%-She set up the hit in a warehouse where anyone could have been injured plus she convinced Devlin, a business associate, that Sonny needed to be out of the way.

Johnny-15%-He agreed to let Claudia arrange the details of the hit instead of handling it himself.

Devlin-10%-He was dumb enough to believe that Sonny needed to be taken down. He should have found another way to get his drugs (experimental not fake drugs) into PC. He was the way that made the shot although I think he thought Michael was out of the room when he did it.

Jerry-5%-He provided Devlin with the gun. He did not turn over the hit to Devlin. Devlin told Claudia that Jerry would do it but Jerry refused because he didn't want trouble for Jax. He said he did not want anything to do with it but went with Devlin and Claudia to the warehouse. Let's not forget that when he found out Michael was going to be there, he tried to stop the hit although why he didn't try reaching Devlin on his cell phone remains a mystery to me.

I don't assign any responsibilty to Kate and Jax for Michael's hit because their actions didn't contribute to the events that led to the shooting. While Jerry has done many things that he needs to pay for he wasn't a contributing factor to what was set in motion. As I have posted before even if Jerry had been killed or arrested, Michael still could have been shot because other than Devlin (who was a doctor/friend of Patrick could still have come to PC) he had nothing to do with the events that led to the shooting.

Posted by alioop at Friday, October 30 2009 05:48 AM

Good morning ladies. wow lots of interesting posts. I have been switching it up reading first and then posting cause I cant wait to see what everyone is saying. LOL!

The cat fight with Olivia and Claudia was WAY overdue but not nearly as interesting to me as the cat fights of the past like Carly and Sam. But it certainly served its purpose and now if Claudia is killed off it will show motive for Olivia.

Alexis, Alexis, Alexis, now here is a woman that gives hypocrisy whole new meaning. Thats a word I have seen alot on here lately and if it fits anyone I think Alexis should get the crown for the day. She wants to run around and act like mother of the year and berate Sam for being a GREAT sister mind you cause she is jealous of how her daughters feel towards Sam and has NO IDEA that her young daughter is walking around unsupervised on the piers of PC, (mind you that Sonny owns and is the play ground for the mob) and she is worried about a key to Sam's place? Wow I guess a key to the city is so much better! LOL. Then she shows up at the party to make sure Kristina is not there and has NO CLUE where her teen daughter is? (Look behind you Alexis)! Its just to funny for words really and to sad.

Zen, in regards to the last person we would expect to be the one to off Claudia, I think sometimes we have to realize the writers dont give us enough credit in the intelligence level thus some of the writing that leaves us scratching our heads askin "What the heck?". In all my reading and thinking. *******Spoiler alert*******

I think it will indeed be Michael. What better justice as the one that Claudia's involvement affected the most is the one that ends up actually being the one to take her down. I have read that Michael is more like Sonny than anyone knew, we all know he has wanted to be involved in the business and I think when Carly gets kidnapped I think he is going to have one of "outbursts" of anger and be the one to do it. Leaving Sonny and Jason with a TON of guilt to deal with in realizing that they created this! I may be way off wrong but that is my theory I think so shall be fun to see if I am right or not! But Johnny is certainly a great idea and very interesting to consider how they would write that one in.
Loved the cliffhanger ending today, cant wait to see how this toast/roast goes and the chaos that ensues. Here is to it finally be FRIDAY! Thank heavens, NYD girl I hope your son has a Great Birthday party and happy birthday to him. To the rest of my fellow posters ladies, its a pleasure every day.

Posted by arb17 at Friday, October 30 2009 06:19 AM

Ringleader- i agree that he might not approve of the people she gets involved with, but he doesn't go the extremes the way she does. he voices his opinion and moves on. claudia is always in someones face calling them a tramp and whatever else she can throw up at them. i just dont care for her character.

Posted by ttoyou at Friday, October 30 2009 06:56 AM

Had to watch it again as I really thought the show was great.

OK, this is what I think. I think Sonny was appalled to hear Claudia's voice saying OK we'll take Sonny Corinthos out on Friday. He knew that was the voice of the woman he was married to. The woman who claims to have his back. And the fact that she got an incompetent to actually do the deed and accidently shot Michael instead was the frosting on the cake.
Forgive her? Trust her? Never. He'll want to kill her but I guess some how or other she gets out of there by probably pulling a gun and holding Carly hostage. But who kills her?

Here's who I think won't kill her...Sonny, Kristina, Alexis, Lulu, Maxie, Mac, Max, Milo, Robin, Patrick.
Jason and Sam want to but probably won't. Olivia obviously would like to. Johnny doesn't want to so he may accidently
kill her A part of me thinks it will be her father's hoodlums and Sonny now loses the Zaccara Mobs. And there will be huge friction now between the families.
Sonny forgives no one least of all the woman who took a hit out on him and then got his kid shot. And in his mind she had the gall to marry him knowing everything she did. Do you think he's evergoing to trust her again? I don't!!!