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Lulu talks Johnny Down.

Thursday, October 18 2007
She convinces him not to shoot the old man, Sonny asks Luke to let him handle finding Lulu and Kate asks Jason for help.

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Posted by at Friday, October 19 2007 08:56 AM

ANybody else sick of the fact that Patrick is putting his nose into Robin's business, I hope Robin does have a baby -

Posted by crzy4u at Friday, October 19 2007 08:59 AM

Yeah and the bottom line is Lucky does not really want sole custody. Everytime its mentioned he has that scared s..t look on his face.
Flashback to years ago when Luck # 2 comes back fr the dead - he sees Jason and Liz talkin in the park and goes into a jealous rage and tries to stab Jason. This means that he has always been jealous of Jason and this whole divorce mess is created (like Fraigle said) just out of spite and jealousy and not bec he really thinks he is a better parent than Liz.

Posted by jche at Friday, October 19 2007 09:03 AM

genhospchat..Oh my goodness how do I agree with you
Posted by genhospchat:
I think they are the one's that need to take off the glasses and see Liz for what she really is. She is a good person who lied to her husband (albeit it that was a horrible thing to do to him). I can see her reasons for it - his drugs - but she should have just raised them on her own. I see it as she was helping Lucky (not telling him I mean) BUT that doesn't make her this awful person who gets blamed for Sam's life problems or Lucky's life problems. Lucky cheated, Liz cheated, they were even and then he goes and sleeps with Sam and they both still think it was ok to do because Liz slept with Jason (again forgetting that LUcky had been sleeping with Maxi for months). Lucky is trying to take away Liz's kids (who is the best mother on the show)out of jealousy and spite and in that, he is no different than Sam.

If I recall Lucky not only cheated with maxie but carried on an affair with her over a number of months. I understand that he was hooked on pain killers but he still did it. Then he did the exact same thing with Sam is is carring on an affair with her while still married to Liz. Liz had a one night stand with Jason. Yes they love each other and yes she cheated but that still does not mean that she is a bad mother.

Posted by fraigle at Friday, October 19 2007 09:16 AM

NY! I'm not justify her mistake! yes & BIG ONES but she's a mother & she was trying to protect her kids... Isn't that what a mother does???? I can see that this could be a debate for hrs, & not going to go there... but everyone has lied, has cheated! so move forward what does that saying say (TWO WRONG DON'T A RIGHT!)
LATER,
HI1 SBLiason,CRZY4U

Posted by idawannab at Friday, October 19 2007 09:30 AM

mid-evil? do you mean medieval?

Posted by shepmajor at Friday, October 19 2007 09:37 AM

Umustbekidding - Actually YES, Lucky DID start the ugliness rolling in the divorce mess. He was fine with the custody arrangements when he and Liz discussed them - she with full (primary) custody and he with unlimited visitation. (For the record, that is the same custody arrangement Sonny and Alexis have re: Krystina). He was fine with it until he heard that Diane was drawing up the papers, THEN he WANTED to find something wrong with the papers. Notice that he didn't bother to tell Alexis that he was fine with the custody arrangements before Diane drew up the papers? All of a sudden it's Liz being unfair to him? Had he told Alexis that was exactly what he and Liz agreed upon, she wouldn't have seen it as so unfair to him - but he didn't tell her.

Now he's running around spouting about how it's Liz who started it by not being reasonable? (In Lucky-speak that means she's not doing what he TELLS her to do.) And sniveling about how Liz shouldn't be allowed to tell him when he can and can't see "his" kids... Ummm, it's called UNLIMITED VISITATION for a reason and his lawyer knows this (and should tell him) since she has that deal with Sonny.

*sigh*

That said? It's way past time for the Jake-truth to come out and let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by crzy4u at Friday, October 19 2007 09:42 AM

Hi Fraigle
Some of us think Liz is at fault bec she married Lucky even though she was carrying Jake.
I think I commend her for that. She married Lucky even though he was a junkie, cheating husband and not the father of her baby. She really still cares for him but his present behaviour will make any mother hate her ex. She was ready to make an effort towards her marraige even after Lucky slept with Sam !!!!!!!! She thought that now maybe he will think he is even and everything will be fine. Which, I do agree was very stupid. But Lucky being stupid lost everything inspite of several warnings. Like Nik said all he needed to do was keep his harmones in control.

Posted by at Friday, October 19 2007 09:48 AM

Liz is not a horribel mother, but she is a horrible wife/girlfriend -

Posted by esprit at Friday, October 19 2007 10:13 AM

testing... my last 2 posts didn't go thru

Posted by umustbkidding at Friday, October 19 2007 10:15 AM

When there is no boundaries for visitation: ie unlimited, what that really means is; if she says it is ok. It is always best for boundaries to be set. Although, she may have primary physical custody,there is nothing wrong with him wanting joint custody of his child(ren),he would also ask for Cam but Alexis said no. He is thinking of both children when most man can't see beyond a child that is theirs by birth. Say what you will but Diane being Jason's lawyer is what is causing the problem because she does not want to give Lucky anything. Liz could have put a stop to it but won't (her own selfish reasons) she doesn't have to fight but refuses to compromise or to tell the so-called truth. She can whine all she wants but she literally made her bed now she needs to lay in it.

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