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Father of the Year. (Not).

Thursday, September 20 2007
Trevor taunts Kate, warns Jason that Johnny Zacchara is nuts and belittles his son every chance he gets.

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Posted by alioop at Friday, September 21 2007 09:59 AM

mattnujuss: well said my friend, well said, I think you summed it up very well there.

Posted by kiakia at Friday, September 21 2007 10:03 AM

Yeah I'll give you that alioop have no reason to excuse Sam for what she has done I think she is wrong. And when Liz is wrong I say that too. And as most people that are Liz's fan do. We never say she is a saint and are quick to call her out as well.

But thank you thank you mattnjuss I agree with everything you said and you made my same point about revenge in less words lol

Posted by matnjuss at Friday, September 21 2007 10:04 AM

Alioop: Thank You!

Posted by matnjuss at Friday, September 21 2007 10:07 AM

Same here Kiakia!

Posted by at Friday, September 21 2007 10:22 AM

I think I could like Jason if he was not portrayed as a hero, but maybe a cold stone killer - he may save Robin, Liz, Sam and the list goes on, but in reality on the show he is nothing but a hitman.

Posted by alioop at Friday, September 21 2007 10:37 AM

kiakia: I have to disagree with you about most Liz fans or more correctly liason fans. Not speaking of you, as you pretty much state it like it is, but from the comments I read daily on Liz, there is always excuses, like she is protecting her kids, she was afraid that Lucky would go back on drugs, she doesnt want her children being in danger, Lucky had slept with Maxi so it was okay for her to run to Jason, and the list goes on and on. Anyone that reads on here daily sees it all the time. No they dont come out and use the words "saint" but condoning lies and deception and cheating for ANY reason is wrong and I just cant see any excuses for any of it and have so much confusion in how that can all be excused away, but not ANY empathy for Sam's character. And as cemc so well pointed out, all the love and affection for Jason, and the bottom line this is a man that is a hitman, a killer, a mobster that does someone else's dirty work, but we close our eyes because he is HOT, and condemn others with less offenses because we want 2 people together. Like I said, its all fun and this is our escape from reality, but the fear that this is how people percieve in real life is a tad blurred perhaps.

Posted by alioop at Friday, September 21 2007 10:40 AM

Guess what I am saying is, if its okay for one, why is it not okay for another, why can one person do terrible things and be loved (jason) and another is trying to hold himself together and is probably more human and real (lucky) and we hate him and call him weak and pathetic when he reflects most men? Why can we rush to the defenses of a woman that has a history of sleeping with other men when the one she loves betrays her, and lies about the parentage of her children both times, one that has never known love, finally finds it and has it destroyed and betrayed to her and we cant grasp that revenge is all she knows, instead we spit on her and cast our stones? Its all questions and comments and just in generalizing the love for one vs. the love of another. Not trying to convert a one of ya, just having a thinking moment and pondering is all.

Posted by kiakia at Friday, September 21 2007 11:04 AM

Alioop I would say yes I have seen excuses from Liz fans but have also seen excuses from Sam. Its a 2 way street and I guess it will always be that way. Thanks yeah I try to call it out as it is wrong is wrong. For me it is not okay to for Liz to stay married to Lucky and I never said it was okay for her lie. Nor is it okay raise the kids around the mob yes I know they love each other but sometimes you have to put kids safety 1st. Now don't get me wrong it doesn't mean that I don't love my Jason & Sonny(though Sonny needs to start listening to people other then himself sometimes). But my thing is that when the characters make excuses or blame someone else for their actions and choices they made. Sam made choice to overlook warnings Carly gave to her about Liz & she stayed with Jason knowing his life and what he has done. Now don't get mad because of the life you chosed and the outcome behind it. Lucky you put the non trust in your relationship by cheating on Liz repeatedly and the drugs. And he did not want to so call connect with his wife either till he got turned on by Sam. So don't claim that Liz is the only one that didn't make a effort in the marriage. Liz your in dead marriage and the emotion abuse you're enduring isn't good for the kids either. Jason put your child and the woman you love 1st walk away from the mob. I'm just saying these are all adults that make their own decision no one should be mad at anyone for choices they could have changed or walked away from. And they need to take some responsibilty.

But I do have a issue with Lucky being mad at Maxi for doing to Lulu the same thing that Sam is doing to Liz. He is okay that Sam is out for revenge because he is getting something out of it but not okay with Maxie. And no I'm not saying Maxie was right. I'm saying Lucky is a hypocrite again.

Posted by treyan7 at Friday, September 21 2007 11:57 AM

Lucky has gotton on my last nerve. He is competing with Jason and is stilling losing. Jason is trying to help. If the were someone that I loved I would have put differences aside an accepted the help. I understand Lucky's problem is that Jason is still cool, when Lucky is throwing his tantrums. Sam the, hypocrite. I never really liked her for one she is very whiny. I am glad that Jason can walk by her without out a bit of emotion. I wonder what Lucky is going to think when his precious Sam sleep's with Trevor. Totally loved the end of the show, when Jason got all hitman & serious.

Posted by liasonliveson at Friday, September 21 2007 11:59 AM

People like the characters they like and will always make excuses for them. No one on soaps (or in life for that matter) does everything right. The only reason we overlook the mistakes/flaws of some characters is because for some reason, these fictional characters have managed to gain our affection..LOL. I love Jason, but I'm not condoning the mob or murder by liking him. But because I like him, you can't really expect that I'll go around bad-mouthing him on the boards. I like Liz, but I hate all the lying she is doing and have said so. I don't like Sam, so discussing her flaws is like a fun hobby for me. LOL. I have never said what Liz is doing is OK because she is protecting her kids. I have said her reasons are honorable - taking care of your kids IS a good thing, but she is still taking care of them in the wrong WAY by lying to others. The other reasons she may have for lying and staying in this marriage don't even make sense anymore - it is time to go. I understand Sam fans trying to explain she is hurt and that is why she is doing all of these things, and that's fine if you wanna defend her. I just don't like when people say what Sam is doing is OK or "you go Sam" or something. That's silly IMO. I know all Sam fans are NOT ok with it. So you guys should all know that not all Liz fans are too proud of our girl lately either. LOL. We just think she is better than Sam! haha..all in good fun ladies...

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