General Hospital - MESSAGE BOARDS

There are tons of would of, should of, could of's where this hopeless story is concerned. Unfortunately, TIIC aren't creative enough to come up with any of them! They went for the quick, destructive fix, and destroyed characters, friendships, romances, and fan bases in the process. I'm not sure it can be fixed, the damage has been done.

I think their sex scene may come out of nowhere. I hope what happens is they fade to black and we are left to wonder if it even happened. What's better we don't have to watch those two attempt to kiss, cause let's face it they are lousy at it!

You have some great ideas Aerinha, maybe you should be writing the show!

I'll chat with you guys later, I'm off now, but have to be back to work at 6:00.

Crystal: there is no fixing the Maxie/Lulu relationship. The only fix is to separate them except for a yearly spat over something that doesn’t last long. The bond created over Logan worked once, but Lulu would be a fool to ever be led into thinking Maxie could be trusted after this. I think, if Johnny doesn’t sleep with Maxie, he could be saved if he goes back to the mob and show misery over losing Lulu and then has to fight for her.

Skylie: That’s why I don’t know that HoHo will hook up because it wouldn’t shock anyone. However Maxie hooking up with Matt, who appeared again out of nowhere, would be a huge WTF because she hates him, kissed Johnny and is stinging over Spinelli dumping her.

Given KS health issues and how they are covering her up, I don’t see them doing a love scene as that would show what they are trying to hide. A FTB might happen.

Hi Everyone,

Well, today should be the start of the Jolu implosion. Spoilers are again making my head hurt!

Once the break is made, I think we'll all be interested to see if we get a JoMax sex scene...we do know we get another kiss which Spin is supposed to see. Sex, in just my opinion will pretty much do what Crystalclear was saying...it will completely destroy relationships perhaps beyond the point of any hope of a repair...especially for folks who still want Spixie and Jolu to happen. It will also destroy the "frienemy" relationship that Lulu and Maxie were having since last summer when Maxie began being nice to Lulu at Shadybrook.

It really upsets me to think TPTB are going to revisit the former relationship of one upping and stealing boyfriends which Maxie and Lulu had...for heaven's sake! How old are these girls supposed to be? Let them grow up and stop behaving like high schoolers.

I was reading something in another thread about the destruction of Johnny's character. I agree with the person who said that this downward spiral seemed to all begin with Johnny walking away from Lulu at Shadybrook. Was he just showing us who he really is back then? It was the start of his not being a man of his word and treating Lulu horribly...to even insinuate that Lulu was writing notes to herself at the time is like how Patrick is behaving toward Robin at the moment. OK, just like Patrick, Johnny was hurt by the thought of losing Lulu to her mind and also buying into the BS that Lucky, Nik, Tracy, Claudia and everyone else around him was spewing and we gave Johnny a pass back then because of all that. The Crazy Lulu story was as overdone as Robin's PPD story is now...it's even coming back on Robin as a character now, just as it did Lulu at the time with people getting upset with her screaming and hallucinating all the time. Just proves that Guza and Co. haven't learned a thing about overdoing something to death!

I never liked that Lulu forgave Johnny for walking away from her at Shadybrook far too easily and it was like nothing ever happened. That, I think, set up the pattern we see with her now of just buying into everything Johnny tells her and his having the ability to smooth things over with a kiss on the forehead as though she's a child. I don't think that's going to work anymore, Johnny!

As a Jolu fan who followed this couple to the end we're soon getting, it's a complete slap in the face by the writers to have had to endure all the angst, especially last summer...many of those scenes were so painful to watch! The ultimate slap is the thought that the writers would simply move Johnny to Maxie and Lulu to Ethan without skipping a beat and expect us to buy that crapola! What, neither of them would have regrets? (Especially Johnny?) Neither of them would be upset, angry, depressed or maybe a bit bitter or even jealous in the future? I realize these two were never married nor did they share children, but they did go through a lot in a year and half!

I sort of have to laugh when I keep seeing "Luthan and JoMax are a go" spoilers. Really? When we don't even know who Ethan is yet? Are we really expected to believe that JoMax could have anything genuine based on how they got together for selfish, destructive purposes? Aside from that, if JoMax are so "a go" then why are we getting Matt and Maxie all of a sudden this week? What's the point? To set up a Johnny/Maxie/Matt triangle? Where does Spin fit in? I guess nowhere if he kicks Maxie's sorry butt to the curb. I would have a really big problem believing Johnny's going to suddenly go all jealous over Maxie based on what they've had thus far. It would be just as phony and contrived as much of this current storyline is!

I am just guessing here, but as to how Jolu's final break will happen...

I am thinking it's going to be the same pattern as we've been seeing with Jolu. Johnny's going to be POed about something that has absolutely NOTHING really to do with Lulu and things will be blown way out of proportion with Lulu left wondering what the heck happened and why.

I think today is when we get Claudia telling Johnny about her baby plans. (She is starting to get on my nerves again...I wish Olivia would have blasted Mrs. "I'm Sonny's wife and we have a family" out of PC yesterday...No Claudia, you don't have a family with Sonny...you have sex, plain and simple, kind of how your brother has it with Maxie...it's lust, not a relationship.) I am guessing Johnny is going to blow at the thought of being an uncle and his reaction's not going to be good. So, Johnny will be POed.

Add to this Maxie possibly going to Johnny to "tattle" on Lulu, saying she got him "fired" from his Crimson Boy job and went out with Ethan to boot. (Yeah, some Luthan date...they spent most of the time at the Haunted Star hanging out with most of Lulu's family also there.) So, I can see Johnny taking out all his ire about all of this stuff on Lulu again and using the Ethan bit to mainly suggest that she's not the only one showing interest in someone else...he's been really interested in Maxie too. I'm sure he will play that up to anger Lulu more...and he's again being a liar. Hey, why not go all the way if he's been a liar, cheat and a coward thus far? The only part of that I will dislike if it happens that way is the suggestion that Lulu's done anything wrong...she hasn't.

I will just be glad if they stop making JoMax look good. Let Johnny go back to the mob and spiral downward destructively. I don't exactly like that Lulu and Maxie would would fighting over the apartment...I'd prefer Lulu to just pack her bags. I can just see Maxie saying something like, "Well, I guess I'll just go live with Johnny." Does he even have a home? I guess maybe the garage...or the Z mansion...I think the place is empty with Claudia living with Sonny, Anthony in jail and Trevor dead (Never heard anything about Trevor leaving anything to Johnny, did we? Nor did we get a whose the daddy story there...that could have been interesting). As I have said before, I would also prefer Lulu out of Crimson too. I read a spoiler somewhere today which said that Kate will decide to go back to Manhattan and leave Maxie in charge of the PC operations of Crimson. Oh great, give the skank a promotion! I guess that is all rumor though.

Guess we have to put up with Maxie and her hair extensions scowling about her Matt date today. It was nice to see Lulu alone and actually laughing a bit yesterday. I'm not wanting her to jump right into Ethan's arms (not sure I even like the guy), but if he can be a port in the storm for her, that is fine. I just don't know how friendly that port is going to be and that has me worried.

If there's a scenario with Lulu showing up to a hotel room expecting to see Ethan (and this was just a spoiler) who might she see instead? I'm hoping for Tracy and not someone like Maxie or Johnny. I am not sure how Lulu will react on Friday. The JoMax kiss I think will be out of the usual pity party mode, but I am not sure if Lulu will be bitter about learning that her suspicions about JoMax were true and then decide to accept if Ethan wants to date her again. That would give Lulu haters ammunition to suggest Lulu's fickle. But then again, after all Johnny's put her through, who could blame her if she turns to Ethan?

The one scenario I've seen come our way which I would like to see in future is Claudia coming with her hat in her hand to Lulu for some help with Johnny, but I'll believe that when I see it. I am just wondering how on earth Claudia's going to get out of her tangled web alive. If she gets preggars now, the baby has every bit of a chance of being Ric's as it does Sonny's. If the DVD is going to be tampered with and someone else is blamed for Michael's shooting, what if the someone else is Johnny?

Oh well, we'll see what we get today...I think I'll have my earplugs handy in case Maxie's shrieking goes on overload...it's so tough to go to these Crimson parties, regardless of the escort!

LS….great post! I love that the mods let us keep this thread so we are free to express our dislike of Johnny lately without offending the fans. I too think Johnny will lay most, if not all the blame at Lulu’s feet because he has become too much of a coward. I am going to watch the b/u because I really want to see Johnny’s reaction and I really feel that will tell all!!! Will he show any remorse for what he is doing and what he has done with Maxie? I have a feeling it will not be right away, what would be the point? I have a feeling we may not find out how he truly feels until after the Luthan chem test if they are going to have Johnny trying to get Lulu back if Luthan do not work out. Or, if Luthan do work out and they decide to go that route, they could use Johnny as angst for them…I think Aerinha said the same thing.

And this whole kiss thing the Spin is suppose to witness, I really hope it’s Maxie pulling Johnny into a kiss and him backing way and not another gropefest cuz that will just make things worse, not to mention turn my stomach!

I read at SON, SOS, GHH, etc., etc.. that the plans for HoHo were for them to become the "new" Carly and Sonny! So the Ho being pregnant rumor could very well be on it's way. I'm not sure if I will watch the break-up or not. Johnny is going to be so "brutal" with Lulu that is will too painful to see. Like he hasn't done enough to her as it is. Depending on how this turns out for Lulu and if HoHo get their come-uppance, I will not be giving TPTB any help with ratings by tuning in anymore. We should get a very good idea of how things will go for Lulu in the future by how they deal with HoHo after the fall-out. I for one can't stomach seeing HoHo rewarded for their sleazy behavior and humiliation of Lulu and Spinelli in their path of "self" destruction. What a lame excuse for being a coward and a sleaze!

With all that said and the brutality of what Johnny is about to do, I wonder what on earth the dream sequence with Johnny thinking about what Lulu told him after Michael was shot was for? Is it so we have more empathy for Johnny screwing Lulu over?