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Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)

Started by LadyStarlight123 at 2009/04/04 09:15AM
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#3031   2009/10/19 06:12PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
kat622
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From DD: GOS!!

James Franco plays Dante's childhood friend who's father was killed.
Ames

Patrick's ex-girlfriend has been cast. Julie Mond.

The entire cast is at the Haunted Star between 10/29 thru 11/06. It's there that multiple storylines play out including Claudia's death and Carly giving birth. Also expect for the news to reach Sonny that Anthony cut a deal with the feds to get out of prison.

From ghh:

As rumored, look for a lot of excitement aboard the Haunted Star beginning the end of October.

Carly gives birth.

Anthony makes a deal and is released from prison.

Lulu is drugged and Dante comes to her aid.

#3032   2009/10/19 06:29PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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:D What's up guys....
I only saw parts of today's show which is really ok for me as I am not interested in the Jason thing...taking too long to prove Claws had Micheal shot.... But hey....I figure even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occaision so sooner or later Jason will get the "proof".
I had a different take on today's prison sequence with Johnny...notice how AZ kept poking at Johnny about banging his woman....bet she's good in bed....full of fire....and then he made all that crap about so many men are drawn to innocence and think they can make a fresh start for themselves....See now to me AZ is always looking to pi$$ in both his kids cornflakes...I think he approved of Liv because it suits his purposes at this point. Now that could mean he knows Dante is her and Sonny's son and he is relishing the fact that when it all hits the fan....John Boy will be Mr. Dark and revenge driven....OR....it could be that he wants to yank Johnny's chain about the fact that he isn't innocent...never will be....couldn't make it out on his own and will never be the kind of guy who deserves a 'good" girl. Now although some of you may think Liv is pretty much a good girl......and she is....to a guy like AZ any older woman who is "banging" a younger man is probably desperate and not such a good girl. In essence he figures Liv is probably morally ambiguous and he will eventually be able to control her thus controlling Johnny.....oh and it also pleases him that his son has something Sonny wants. I did think it odd that he brought up the innocent stuff at this point though....it was no secret AZ percieved Lulu as a threat so...we will see where it goes.
The straddle lift kind of made me laugh as to me...and maybe I'm blind but it looked like he kind of stumbled....IMHO....they need to let Jason be the one to stick with the straddle lift...that's his move and to me it didn't work on Johnny. Nice kiss though...
Danlu was kind of cute....loved that he picked at her about her curiosity but Lulu doing the pull back is getting old. The choppy stuff bugs me too...what the he!! is it with them chopping off all the scenes. Could we please have a resolution to some of their scenes? Seriously...I get that they are doing rewrites to set up their VIp and the new Lucky but come on people....
Nik/Lucky/Liz......
I did find the scenes where Jason taunts Johnny about Claws being to blame for Michaels shooting to be interesting....you watch....they are going to white wash this crap and make it out like Johnny had nothing to do with it and it was all Claws. Just wait...I can see that train coming and I rewatched...you guys remember..."Sonny has to DIE!" That is a quote from Johnny...not Claudia...she was actually resonable and even asked him if part of his anger came from the fact that he missed his last(at that time) date with Lulu because Sonny kidnapped him. They are going to see if they can get the stink off of Johnny so that they can keep him around a bit longer....mark my words!!!!!!
Loved Dante turning Claws down but could she be any more revolting....I guess the plan is to uber evil her since she is going bye bye anyway....
So ladies...what did you think....Hey Lady...you feeling ok?
Me ...I am in the last week(I hope) of the cast wearing....

#3033   2009/10/20 05:15AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
aerinha
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That symbol Dante saw looked like it said Co77Y. The second time they showed it it looked like it was on the window of the old Outback set. Was that bald head a person or a statue? I couldn't tell.

My bet is that is a gang symbol from Sonny's days in the Scully group since he would have been in high school aroun 1977 and that Dante will learn Sonny didn't have Poletti killed this other guy did. If it was Scully related it would be a nice way to bring Luke in since he was part of Scully's fall.

I think they are talking out Valentin so we don't forget him while they drag out Claudia's departure. SOD says Helena is leaving very soon. Why did they even bring her back? She did nothing.

Am I the only one feeling like JJ's Lucky is starting off bad by having to walk in the doofus shoes they gave Lucky to wear? I really think they should have started this with GV's Lucky a chalk outline and as Luke was about to dissolve, have JJ's Lucky waltz in declare the old one a brainwashed copy and explain where he's been for 10 years. Slate wiped clean of drug addiction, Maxie stupidity, being played over Jake and all the damage done to his Sason ties. They love to change history, this time it would be perfect.

#3034   2009/10/20 12:43PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
kat622
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From SOD:
Claudia's Busted

Carly and Olivia work together to plan Sonny's party for Claudia (he doesn't know the secret yet). They're united in their disdain for her. Carly is trying to spend all of Sonny's money and they're basically b.itching out the union.

Claudia later informs Olivia she's going to tell Sonny about Dante. Things escalate and get physical. "I cannot tell you how much fun me and Sarah had that day. It made me want to join the WWF," notes LLC. Olivia is arrestd but Mac is sort of an ally, he knows her secret. She's desperate to get to Claudia's party.

Meanwhile, Jason tells Sonny the truth. He barely reacts. Sonny gives Claudia a diamond necklace during the party. Olivia is bailed out, she arrives to find Sonny giving Claudia a scathing toast (telling her he knows she's responsible for Mikey's shooting). "Maurice is so good...he really dug in," says LLC.

Desperate to escape, Claudia grabs Carly. Carly goes into pre-mature labor. They're in a stolen car, Carly attacks Claudia, the car crashes.

GH: Lulu Knows
Lulu is accidentally drugged, they note it's a "long story". Dom/Ronnie talk about their undercover gig unaware that a drugged chic is in the room. Dom finds her. Lulu doesn't remember anything when she awakens. Berman notes, "Dom not being a mobster isn't a problem. "It's not that Lulu is only attracted to mobsters, it's just all the young males on the show have been mobsters," LOL. Their issue is him trying to take down a family friend. Guza notes her memories are fuzzy, but that she will find out the truth. She'll be divided...loyalty to Sonny and feelings for Dom.

11/02: Dom/Lulu/Spin embark on a mission. Berman notes that there is definitely an attraction between Lulu and Dominic.

11/03: Claudia makes a surprising move. Lulu finds herself in jeopardy. Jax realizes that Mikey's missing.

SOD: November Sweeps
Claudia's Exit
"All hell is breaking loose," is GUZA's general comment about sweeps.

The actions Claudia takes in desperation to save herself will change the lives of everyone involved. "You'll never believe who gets the final act of revenge against her." Sonny/Olivia will continue to share feelings. She will remain devoted to Jerk-ny. As Dom gets closer to bringing Sonny down a fellow mobster learns his true identity. "It's only a matter of time before Sonny finds out he has a son."

Carjax....Their joy about being new parents is trumped by his lie. Carly doesn't easily forgive, but Jax is determined.....to mend their marriage and get Sonny out of their lives.

Jasam......Sam will be there for Jason every step of the way (as the Claudia reveal/exit unfolds).

Liz/Lucky/Niz/Rebecca...
Liz/Nik are drowning in guilt about betraying Lucky but can't stay away from each other. Luke will play a pivotal role after finding out what's going on.

Spin/Maxie.....
"We're excited about exploring the next stage in their romance." Relationships are all about bringing out the best in each other. This duo does that!

Scrubs....Robin and Patrick's insecurities about their relationship come to the forefront. Matt will factor into this story in a big way.

Lulu/Dante.....Life-and-death experience brings them closer together.

Kristina/Mikey/Kiefer....Kristina will continue in the abusive relationship with Kiefer. She'll try to hide the truth about his behavior. Mikey, Sonny and Alexis will play a major role in the story when the truth comes out.

Cassadines....Great storyline coming, but they have to wrap up some other issues first. "It will be worth the wait".



From DD.......Please GOS...GOS...
Olivia pleads with Lulu to stay loyal to her son because Dante would be killed if Sonny knew the truth. That is what keeps Lulu silent. But she feels guilty, especially when things get bad for Spinelli and Maxie.

Sonny is determined to find out who the leak is in his organization. It's a race against time for Dante.

Jerk-ny's guilt over Claudia eats away at him. He feels himself sinking deeper into darkness, Olivia tries to pull him out of it.

Sam's daddy is supposed to finally be addressed.

Rebecca is not planned to be Emily.

Something should be coming up with Molly in regards to the Cassadine storyline. No Molly is not being killed off!

Michael is the one to tell Sonny and Alexis the truth about Kiefer. Alexis will also try to help Sonny understand about Olivia/Dante!

Michael saves his mother. But Jason and Sam play a role in Claudia's undoing as well.

Lisa arrives and stirs up memories for Patrick. Matt's instantly drawn to her. Patrick's jealous and envious of their carefree relationship. Patrick and Robin feel they fall short. Problems arise.

Carly faces Jax's deception and is hearbroken, they separate. Jax's anger at Sonny in their lives isn't unwarranted and Carly can't deny it when Michael once again insists on being a part of his father's business. Some tests for Carly and Jax. Carly is torn.

Sam is shocked when Jason asks her to stay with him. James Franco's storyline is short....it propels Jason and Sam to move quicker in their relationship than they originally intended.

Top Couples Are:
Scrubs/Jasam...are the top two.
They're not going anywhere any time soon.
Neither are Jolivia, Spixie or Carjax.
And Lante(DanLu) are being developed.

Anything else is up for grabs. Those listed above are solid!

As always.......from DD a huge GOS!!
Ladies hope all are doing well. Be back later after I watch today's epi! Hope we get more DanLu!

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#3035   2009/10/20 02:26PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
LadyStarligh...
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Hi Everyone,

More spoilers...thanks Kat! I never know what to make of these DD ones! As was said, huge grain of salt!

I didn't get to watch today. Had to go to the doctors, as I was feeling a lot worse instead of better since the weekend and it turns out I have a virus. Was given some meds to make me feel a bit better...I'll try to watch tonight, unless the meds knock me out for the evening! There's always tomorrow morning's airing too. Does not look like I missed all that much.

Hope everyone else is well!

#3036   2009/10/20 02:41PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
kat622
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Quote LadyStarlight123: Hi Everyone,

More spoilers...thanks Kat! I never know what to make of these DD ones! As was said, huge grain of salt!

I didn't get to watch today. Had to go to the doctors, as I was feeling a lot worse instead of better since the weekend and it turns out I have a virus. Was given some meds to make me feel a bit better...I'll try to watch tonight, unless the meds knock me out for the evening! There's always tomorrow morning's airing too. Does not look like I missed all that much.

Hope everyone else is well!


Hey LadyStar....Sorry you're still sick. Get plenty rest and drink your fluids! Talk with you later! Feel better soon!

#3037   2009/10/20 02:45PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote LadyStarlight123: Hi Everyone,

More spoilers...thanks Kat! I never know what to make of these DD ones! As was said, huge grain of salt!

I didn't get to watch today. Had to go to the doctors, as I was feeling a lot worse instead of better since the weekend and it turns out I have a virus. Was given some meds to make me feel a bit better...I'll try to watch tonight, unless the meds knock me out for the evening! There's always tomorrow morning's airing too. Does not look like I missed all that much.

Hope everyone else is well!


LS take care of you...This is the time of the year we get virus it seems...

Anyway, I missed DAnlu today. I guess we won`t see much of them this week and I am really not happy about it...I mean come on, Lulu suffered enough when Johnny left her w/o any good reasons it should be her time to shine and be happy with a man who will treat her like she deserves.

Don`t start me on Jolivia. I can`t stand them...Johnny seems more desperate by the day and Olivia is acting like a 14 years old HS girl...I find nothin appealing in their suppose LS and I don`t buy it for a second. I think the words AZ told his son about becoming like his daddy will lead to Johnny turning dark with CLaudia`s death and «olivia`s betrayal.

#3038   2009/10/20 02:49PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
kat622
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From DD: GOS...GOS!!

Dante will have alot on his plate. He's trying to court Lulu. Luke says he reminds him of someone. Sonny thinks Dante is scheming with his no good wife Claudia. Will Sonny make the mistake of putting a hit out on his own son? Only Olivia can save her son's life, but at the cost of someone else's.

#3039   2009/10/20 03:00PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
kat622
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Quote samilu:
Quote LadyStarlight123: Hi Everyone,

More spoilers...thanks Kat! I never know what to make of these DD ones! As was said, huge grain of salt!

I didn't get to watch today. Had to go to the doctors, as I was feeling a lot worse instead of better since the weekend and it turns out I have a virus. Was given some meds to make me feel a bit better...I'll try to watch tonight, unless the meds knock me out for the evening! There's always tomorrow morning's airing too. Does not look like I missed all that much.

Hope everyone else is well!


LS take care of you...This is the time of the year we get virus it seems...

Anyway, I missed DAnlu today. I guess we won`t see much of them this week and I am really not happy about it...I mean come on, Lulu suffered enough when Johnny left her w/o any good reasons it should be her time to shine and be happy with a man who will treat her like she deserves.

Don`t start me on Jolivia. I can`t stand them...Johnny seems more desperate by the day and Olivia is acting like a 14 years old HS girl...I find nothin appealing in their suppose LS and I don`t buy it for a second. I think the words AZ told his son about becoming like his daddy will lead to Johnny turning dark with CLaudia`s death and «olivia`s betrayal.


Hey Samilu.....Haven't seen today's epi....but ITA with you about Jerk-ny and Olivia. I find nothing appealing about them! Yep...there's rumors that the guilt of Claudia's death eats at him and he sinks deeper into "darkness". Big Whoop! It's past time for Lulu to have a good s/l and a good man! Not fair Jerk-ny and Maxie got the "happiness" after the crap they put Lulu through! More DanLu please!

#3040   2009/10/20 04:31PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
kat622
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From DD: GOS!!

Lulu and Dante will spend a large part of the sweeps isolated together!

Oh ....please, please, please let this be true!! No interruptions, lots of bonding and making love and lots of shirtless Dante!! Yum...Yum!

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#3041   2009/10/21 07:58AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
LadyStarligh...
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Hi Everyone,

Thanks again for the well wishes. As I suspected, I was totally Gonesville last night and didn't see yesterday's ep. until the 9AM airing on Soapnet today.

It was a warm and fuzzy ep....the Spencer party, Jasam getting "broody" over the baby situation, Kristina getting flowers. All of it though pointed to an underlying "All of this stuff isn't going to remain warm and fuzzy when those secrets come out!"

Speaking of secrets, I have not made it a secret that I am not a Jolivia fan, but honestly, with all due respect to Johnny's character, can they make this guy any more pathetic and needy??? "I love you, but you don't have to love me." "You keep your secrets, I'll keep mine." "I promise I won't intentially upset you or hurt you." (The operative word there, Livvy, is "intentionally.") What a load of crap!

Jax and Patrick lamenting about their "wild and crazy" days before domestic bliss set in leads me to think they will both be experiencing some angst in future. So the drops that couples like Scrubs are "safe," I don't buy for a moment...no couple on that show ever seems "safe."

I take it that Helena's stay in PC is over? What the heck was her purpose other than to start trouble between Nik and Lucky and to keep dropping the name Valentin? Another terrible misuse of a character!

I hope everyone is having a good day today. I'm a bit better; still quite weak yet, but can at least form a sentence!

#3042   2009/10/21 08:01AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
aerinha
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I’ve seen some posts thinking that weird symbol was Poletti’s badge number, but Dante didn’t say Poletti was a cop. My guess, and I’ve never been right except for when I said Johnny wouldn’t wind up sleeping with Maxie, is that the symbol is a gang symbol. That will be Sonny’s out of Poletti’s murder everyone will have thought he gave the order, but it will have been a gang thing Sonny had no part in.

Wonder who will get final revenge on Claudia? Be nice if Lulu could drop a house on her.

Not sure about that Lante sweeps rumor. That was the rumor for JoLu at this time last year. Post SB Lulu was supposed to freeze Johnny out, but they’d get trapped together and bond or she’d think he was dead and take him back after that.

I’m thinking this Cassadine story is going to be boring. It’s already dragging out because they are postponing it for SJB to leave and JF to visit. By the time it starts TG will be on his winter vacation and it will drag some more. I still think it would be an awesome story if Valentin takes Jake, thinking he’s a Spencer, and Lulu has to trade herself for her “nephew” so that Dante has to track her down and Jake’s paternity is outed. Jason needs his son and Lucky needs to be free of the kid shackle weighing him down.

Article in SOD with Rena Sofer (the real Lois) saying she would never return because when she was on it was the perfect combo of actors, writers (Labines) and exec producer (Riche). They have the actors, but while they still had Riche the show started to sink so I’m thinking it’s the Labines GH needs back.

Now I have to be careful how I say this because I don’t want to actor bash so I’m going to speak in general terms. But I’ve read a lot of posts saying that some actors weren’t miscast they weren’t given good material. I agree there are times when a great actor is given crap to act. We saw it last summer with JoLu and the Logan ghost they hit it out of the park even when the s/l was pathetic. That is on the writers. But there can be small scenes that even if it’s the actor’s only dialogue for the month that can be acted out of the park so long as there is emotion in the voice and fire in the eyes. The right actor can cut with a word and convey their contempt or anger. They can drip malice by changing their facial expression. If the right actor is in the right part. An actor who is out of their depth comes off as giving the same performance over and over in any given situation. Any emotion is portrayed with shouting (no depth of feeling is in their words they are mouth what is on the page and any person off the street can do that) and “normal” behavior is an expressionless face with a flat voice. What could have been a crackling scene between two enemies is laughable because one half is bringing it and the other is shouting again. Put the correct actor in that role and voila you have tension that the viewer feels. No writer can create that.

#3043   2009/10/21 10:23AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
aerinha
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What does Lulu owe Sonny and Johnny in regards to outing Dante as a cop?

She owes Johnny absolutely nothing. In fact it would be perfect revenge for her to sit back and watch Johnny fall knowing he and his “brilliant” sister were outwitted.

She does however owe Sonny and Jason.

Jason let her live with him when she left the Qs. Jason talked to her when she learned of Laura’s rape. He kept that cop from shooting her the day she and Johnny fled the PCPD and he took her to see the worthless Johnny when she asked. Jason did more for Lulu then her useless brother Lucky ever did.

Sonny was the reason Lulu was born in a hospital and not in some alley. He is also the reason Luke, Laura and Lucky are still alive. Without him they would all either still be on the run from Frank Smith or dead. Sonny helped her clear Laura’s name, he saved her from Alcazar, he backed Scott off at SB and he has repeatedly offered to find her deadbeat dad for her.

Even if Sonny and Jason hadn’t done all those things for Lulu and her family, there is still her declaration that she would never go against Sonny because it would be like going against Carly. Not that Carly now defender of the jerk ex deserves such loyalty, but how could she ever look Michael and Morgan in the face knowing she let their father and their uncle be hoodwinked?

What should she do?

Lulu would be in the same shoes Michael is now in. She wouldn’t want to tell because Dante would die on her word as Claudia would die on Michael’s and like her cousin she doesn’t want that. Nor do I think she should tell. I would want her to do with Dante what I would have wanted her to do with Johnny if the truth of the hit became known to her: leave him. She wouldn’t get him killed, but she wouldn’t support someone who was out to hurt people who were good to her and who are basically family. Of course in both cases I would want the guy to win her back and it’s a soapy thing to do, but trust me she will be hated for all the times she blathered about Sason to turn around and let them fall.

Yeah, yeah they’re criminals, but Luke will not be pleased that she knew and kept her mouth. Personally I wouldn’t care what he thought if I were Lulu, but she is always overly concerned what her horrid family thinks of her so she would be upset that he told her she was wrong. Carly would certainly be ticked and I doubt Lulu would toss in her face the new Johnny love after he hurt her anymore than she tossed Luke in Lucky’s abusive face.

#3044   2009/10/21 03:09PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
kat622
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From DD: GOS....GOS!!

Fanbase that will be happy:
Jason and Sam fans!
Sonny and Alexis fans!
Carly and Jax fans! (bittersweet)
Dante and Lulu fans!

Unhappy fanbase:
Patrick and Robin fans!
Lucky and Liz fans!

Very unhappy fanbase:
Spinelli and Maxie fans!

As always ....GOS!!

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#3045   2009/10/21 03:28PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote aerinha: What does Lulu owe Sonny and Johnny in regards to outing Dante as a cop?

She owes Johnny absolutely nothing. In fact it would be perfect revenge for her to sit back and watch Johnny fall knowing he and his “brilliant” sister were outwitted.

She does however owe Sonny and Jason.

Jason let her live with him when she left the Qs. Jason talked to her when she learned of Laura’s rape. He kept that cop from shooting her the day she and Johnny fled the PCPD and he took her to see the worthless Johnny when she asked. Jason did more for Lulu then her useless brother Lucky ever did.

Sonny was the reason Lulu was born in a hospital and not in some alley. He is also the reason Luke, Laura and Lucky are still alive. Without him they would all either still be on the run from Frank Smith or dead. Sonny helped her clear Laura’s name, he saved her from Alcazar, he backed Scott off at SB and he has repeatedly offered to find her deadbeat dad for her.

Even if Sonny and Jason hadn’t done all those things for Lulu and her family, there is still her declaration that she would never go against Sonny because it would be like going against Carly. Not that Carly now defender of the jerk ex deserves such loyalty, but how could she ever look Michael and Morgan in the face knowing she let their father and their uncle be hoodwinked?

What should she do?

Lulu would be in the same shoes Michael is now in. She wouldn’t want to tell because Dante would die on her word as Claudia would die on Michael’s and like her cousin she doesn’t want that. Nor do I think she should tell. I would want her to do with Dante what I would have wanted her to do with Johnny if the truth of the hit became known to her: leave him. She wouldn’t get him killed, but she wouldn’t support someone who was out to hurt people who were good to her and who are basically family. Of course in both cases I would want the guy to win her back and it’s a soapy thing to do, but trust me she will be hated for all the times she blathered about Sason to turn around and let them fall.

Yeah, yeah they’re criminals, but Luke will not be pleased that she knew and kept her mouth. Personally I wouldn’t care what he thought if I were Lulu, but she is always overly concerned what her horrid family thinks of her so she would be upset that he told her she was wrong. Carly would certainly be ticked and I doubt Lulu would toss in her face the new Johnny love after he hurt her anymore than she tossed Luke in Lucky’s abusive face.


I haven`t watch GH for too long so I didn`t fully realized how much Sonnyy helped Lulu`s family...Whne she discovers the truth about DAnte being a cop, she will be between a rock and a hard palce...I want the truth to come out fast so she doesnt appear to be the bad guy here so to speak.

By the way, I jsut ordered your book...Let you know when I receive it.

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