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Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)

Started by LadyStarlight123 at 2009/04/04 09:15AM
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#21   2009/04/07 06:03PM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote jnlforever: So how does everyone think the break up is going to go down? Do we think it is going to be bad, like are they going to yell at each other and say mean hurtful things! I for one can't wait for them to not be together but I don't like when couples get really nasty while fighting.


I think Johnny will be pissed about his loss of income and also pissed that Maxie told him about Lulu's "date". I also think he will be jealous from jump about the "date". ( he won't admit it though) He will use her "date" as the catalyst for telling her that, " I guess I don't have to feel guilty about me and Maxie..." or something to that effect. I think she will respond with "What about you and Maxie?" It will degenerate from there... He will tell her that she was right and that he is hiding something..."I'm attracted to maxie". From there it will be the reveal about what happened in the garage and that her insecurities and clingyness have turned him off. ( Yes, ladies I fully expect him to be brutal) I think he will reference her being insecure multiple times...as if he didn't feed into it by "dating" the rent-a-Ho but that's another subject. At this point, I think the absolute devastation will show on her face and you will see just a small glimpse of horror cross his face at what he just said to her. He will attempt to touch her to which she will flinch and whisper," Don't you dare...don't you dare ever touch me again!"... I think she will recover some of her composure and they will argue...you know..how could you etc...of which he will try to blame her for all of it....he will also trot out the old...I'm no good for you etc... I think he will break for the door...she will tell him if he walks... we're through and he will say...i guess we're through.( if spoilers are to be believed)
My hope is that Ethan sees and hears most if not all and goes to her. I really hope he offers sincere and platonic support cause anything else would be just too much. I also hope that after old doom and gloom walks out on Lulu...reality sets in. I want it to crash in on him hard and I want him to really show it in his face. I really think after he has cooled down, he is gonna be horrified at all he said( I believe his guilt and the anger over his guilt will allow him to get carried away. I really do think he will be nasty.)At this point, he will voice to someone...maybe Claws, maybe Maxie that he needs to find Lulu and make sure shes alright. My hope is that he goes to the docks while looking for her...Ethan sees or hears him coming and presto...lays one slow, sexy, prolonged, heated kiss on Lulu who is none the wiser. I hope they have written her to respond; if for nothing at this point than the need for comfort.
I personally think he will shut down and go ever more doom and gloom if at all possible. I also think he will eventually converse with the nutjob that is Claudia and she will try to talk him down. She may also point out (she's never been very sensitive) that he pushed Lulu into the arms of another guy. i think he will start acting out like crazy Johnny again and try to put out this front like he doesn't care. When he sees Lulu he will make snide comments about "didn't take you very long...etc.." to which she will respond "wasn't that big of a spot to fill...why do you care?"
All in all, I expect their relationship to be very contentious for a few weeks. i think she will be hurt over the obvious...he will be hurt over what he perceives as her replacing him immediately with Ethan. I think Ethan will love jabbing him whenever he can cause he will realize that john boy cares alot more than he lets on and is eating his heart out. Oh and through out all this...i expect the Maxie thing to unravel. I may be wrong but i see them as maybe sleeping together maybe not, but nothing long term. I see Johnny being pulled into the mob and Lulu into whatever is going down with Ethan. I think if she does go on an adventure with Ethan...Johnny will freak when he find out she is gone and begin to look for her with Spin who will consent to help him because it is the
"blonde one". ok...so I know it isn't neat but that is an aproximation of how I think it will play more or less.
Whew. Just please don't let it be Johnny doing the reveal in front of the rent-a-ho...we all know she likes to watch when she hurts someone. I think i would have to slap him for that one...matter of fact...maybe he should ...so Lulu can get the physical in.

#22   2009/04/08 05:32AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Well, I’ve been giving this some thought on the break up and I really don’t think we will see Johnny’s hurt right now. I think he will be cold and hurtful and just walk away because remember we have to go through the Luthan testing. I don’t think they would do this great break up only to put them back right away. I think Johnny will do his thing in the mob with Claws and I think he will spend to time with Maxie…in what way….IDK, but like it or not they are friends now. Lulu, she will be crushed swearing off men, but will find herself drawn to Ethan. I think the secret Lulu finds out in who is Ethan’s father and it’s not Luke…but…? This will be the beginning of their relationship only she won’t tell anyone she knows who Ethan’s father really is and this will drive Tracy crazy.

I can’t see Claws going to Lulu for any reason let alone to help with Johnny cuz Claws hates Lulu and I can’t see that changing. Now she might ask Maxie to help since she helped with Ric and she knows Johnny trusts her.

I still have not jumped completely on the Luthan train, but they could be fun together. Ethan has a lightness about him that Johnny don’t we have enough of the uptight mobster’s with Jason and Sonny, I want a lighthearted fun kind of romance that GH use to have that’s been missing for so long.

My one hope is that TIIC charge start to mature both Lulu AND Maxie because right now they are BOTH very high schoolish and they are in their 20’s and need to be written accordingly.

#23   2009/04/08 05:43AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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I placed 4 calls: 1. Praising M&M 2. Praising Lulu’s revenge and requesting that she continue to triumph given all the crap heaped on her by Maxie for over a year and how Maxie never pays 3. Saying that M&M were good, LuThan better, JoLu vs. LuThan great, but JoLu vs. LuThan with Maxie in another orbit with Matt was outstanding and as it should be 4. Praising Lulu and JMB (liked her new found sparkle, her better clothing, seeing a woman with a healthy figure shine, vibe with Ethan a guy who shows interest in her for a change vs. a guy who lies to her and shoves her away, and the friend vibe with Matt when he picked up her lead about not being able to reach Johnny.

If they hadn’t tossed the limo thing in there I would really have just out and out enjoyed yesterday’s ep and rooted for Lulu to help Matt win Maxie over because he’d be good for her friend. Another case of “if only they had kept the quad clean”. They destroyed so much potential with JoHo being forced together. Yes removing Johnny from the mix did not make me see red, but Maxie acting put upon when she kissed Lulu’s b/f twice did make me see pink. Stupid writers!

Yesterday gave me hope Maxie might sleep with Matt. In the JoLu thread I suggested Maxie would seduce Matt and be a jerk to him after to keep him from becoming GM so she could keep dating Johnny, but those rumors about Maxie doing something out there to fix things because JoLu’s break up makes stuff start going badly for her gave me an idea for a new motivation for this scenario. In that case her goals should be to reunite JoLu and to win back Spinelli. What if she wants to prove to Spinelli and to Lulu that she’s really not after Johnny so she sleeps with Matt after Spinelli sees the JoHo kiss? In her mind that should be ok with Spinelli because he knows she’s “loose” and it’s not Johnny so that should make Spinelli happy in her twisted mind and it would help reunite JoLu because once Lulu saw Maxie was away from Johnny that’s all it should take for Lulu to take him back. Actually I could see Maxie locking JoLu in somewhere together too when her sleeping with Matt plan, as expected, fails. After all we were warned GH people would be doing some WTF things as s/l were tried. JoHo hooking up not shocking or unexpected, but M&M doing the deed now that would be a switch (sort of like Matt’s return to Maxie’s orbit out of nowhere this week.)

It didn’t occur to me that the LuThan date was to set up Johnny’s jealousy because I was focused on the break up (which I think will start about the loss of the paycheck and go into Lulu asking if it’s really the check he’ll miss or his time with Maxie), but wouldn’t it be interesting if Johnny was told Lulu had a date today, they broke up Friday and then at the end of Friday’s ep he saw her kissing Ethan? What a great twist that would be. Talk about turning things around! It would go from Lulu winning at Crimson, having it cost her Johnny, to Johnny finding out he wasn’t the only one with a secret attraction so he got his own slap in the face. I like that idea very much.

#24   2009/04/08 06:08AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote aerinha: I placed 4 calls: 1. Praising M&M 2. Praising Lulu’s revenge and requesting that she continue to triumph given all the crap heaped on her by Maxie for over a year and how Maxie never pays 3. Saying that M&M were good, LuThan better, JoLu vs. LuThan great, but JoLu vs. LuThan with Maxie in another orbit with Matt was outstanding and as it should be 4. Praising Lulu and JMB (liked her new found sparkle, her better clothing, seeing a woman with a healthy figure shine, vibe with Ethan a guy who shows interest in her for a change vs. a guy who lies to her and shoves her away, and the friend vibe with Matt when he picked up her lead about not being able to reach Johnny.

If they hadn’t tossed the limo thing in there I would really have just out and out enjoyed yesterday’s ep and rooted for Lulu to help Matt win Maxie over because he’d be good for her friend. Another case of “if only they had kept the quad clean”. They destroyed so much potential with JoHo being forced together. Yes removing Johnny from the mix did not make me see red, but Maxie acting put upon when she kissed Lulu’s b/f twice did make me see pink. Stupid writers!

Yesterday gave me hope Maxie might sleep with Matt. In the JoLu thread I suggested Maxie would seduce Matt and be a jerk to him after to keep him from becoming GM so she could keep dating Johnny, but those rumors about Maxie doing something out there to fix things because JoLu’s break up makes stuff start going badly for her gave me an idea for a new motivation for this scenario. In that case her goals should be to reunite JoLu and to win back Spinelli. What if she wants to prove to Spinelli and to Lulu that she’s really not after Johnny so she sleeps with Matt after Spinelli sees the JoHo kiss? In her mind that should be ok with Spinelli because he knows she’s “loose” and it’s not Johnny so that should make Spinelli happy in her twisted mind and it would help reunite JoLu because once Lulu saw Maxie was away from Johnny that’s all it should take for Lulu to take him back. Actually I could see Maxie locking JoLu in somewhere together too when her sleeping with Matt plan, as expected, fails. After all we were warned GH people would be doing some WTF things as s/l were tried. JoHo hooking up not shocking or unexpected, but M&M doing the deed now that would be a switch (sort of like Matt’s return to Maxie’s orbit out of nowhere this week.)

It didn’t occur to me that the LuThan date was to set up Johnny’s jealousy because I was focused on the break up (which I think will start about the loss of the paycheck and go into Lulu asking if it’s really the check he’ll miss or his time with Maxie), but wouldn’t it be interesting if Johnny was told Lulu had a date today, they broke up Friday and then at the end of Friday’s ep he saw her kissing Ethan? What a great twist that would be. Talk about turning things around! It would go from Lulu winning at Crimson, having it cost her Johnny, to Johnny finding out he wasn’t the only one with a secret attraction so he got his own slap in the face. I like that idea very much.


Hi Aerinha,

I love all your idea’s, but with one exception, I don’t want a Jolu reunion right away especially if Johnny has not changed. If there is to be a Jolu reunion, I want Johnny to realize what he has in Lulu, that SHE is the ONE person who loves him and it doesn’t matter what or who he is as long as he’s honest with her. What I don’t want is the same old relationship we’ve had in the past with the “you’re better off without me” crap and ALL the angst we’ve had to endure for over a year! Bring on the light and happy…the romance…the fun…NOT the push/pull crap because if they do get back together and I have to watch a repeat of the past year…I will not support them or watch them….Sorry!

#25   2009/04/08 06:40AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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From the DD:

Besides Lulu and Ethan, not much else is set in stone with the younger set. Maxie and Spin continue their dance only the roles are reversed. Johnny is pulled into Claudia's mess. Winnie is gone soon.

#26   2009/04/08 06:56AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote skylie2005:
Quote aerinha: I placed 4 calls: 1. Praising M&M 2. Praising Lulu’s revenge and requesting that she continue to triumph given all the crap heaped on her by Maxie for over a year and how Maxie never pays 3. Saying that M&M were good, LuThan better, JoLu vs. LuThan great, but JoLu vs. LuThan with Maxie in another orbit with Matt was outstanding and as it should be 4. Praising Lulu and JMB (liked her new found sparkle, her better clothing, seeing a woman with a healthy figure shine, vibe with Ethan a guy who shows interest in her for a change vs. a guy who lies to her and shoves her away, and the friend vibe with Matt when he picked up her lead about not being able to reach Johnny.

If they hadn’t tossed the limo thing in there I would really have just out and out enjoyed yesterday’s ep and rooted for Lulu to help Matt win Maxie over because he’d be good for her friend. Another case of “if only they had kept the quad clean”. They destroyed so much potential with JoHo being forced together. Yes removing Johnny from the mix did not make me see red, but Maxie acting put upon when she kissed Lulu’s b/f twice did make me see pink. Stupid writers!

Yesterday gave me hope Maxie might sleep with Matt. In the JoLu thread I suggested Maxie would seduce Matt and be a jerk to him after to keep him from becoming GM so she could keep dating Johnny, but those rumors about Maxie doing something out there to fix things because JoLu’s break up makes stuff start going badly for her gave me an idea for a new motivation for this scenario. In that case her goals should be to reunite JoLu and to win back Spinelli. What if she wants to prove to Spinelli and to Lulu that she’s really not after Johnny so she sleeps with Matt after Spinelli sees the JoHo kiss? In her mind that should be ok with Spinelli because he knows she’s “loose” and it’s not Johnny so that should make Spinelli happy in her twisted mind and it would help reunite JoLu because once Lulu saw Maxie was away from Johnny that’s all it should take for Lulu to take him back. Actually I could see Maxie locking JoLu in somewhere together too when her sleeping with Matt plan, as expected, fails. After all we were warned GH people would be doing some WTF things as s/l were tried. JoHo hooking up not shocking or unexpected, but M&M doing the deed now that would be a switch (sort of like Matt’s return to Maxie’s orbit out of nowhere this week.)

It didn’t occur to me that the LuThan date was to set up Johnny’s jealousy because I was focused on the break up (which I think will start about the loss of the paycheck and go into Lulu asking if it’s really the check he’ll miss or his time with Maxie), but wouldn’t it be interesting if Johnny was told Lulu had a date today, they broke up Friday and then at the end of Friday’s ep he saw her kissing Ethan? What a great twist that would be. Talk about turning things around! It would go from Lulu winning at Crimson, having it cost her Johnny, to Johnny finding out he wasn’t the only one with a secret attraction so he got his own slap in the face. I like that idea very much.


Hi Aerinha,

I love all your idea’s, but with one exception, I don’t want a Jolu reunion right away especially if Johnny has not changed. If there is to be a Jolu reunion, I want Johnny to realize what he has in Lulu, that SHE is the ONE person who loves him and it doesn’t matter what or who he is as long as he’s honest with her. What I don’t want is the same old relationship we’ve had in the past with the “you’re better off without me” crap and ALL the angst we’ve had to endure for over a year! Bring on the light and happy…the romance…the fun…NOT the push/pull crap because if they do get back together and I have to watch a repeat of the past year…I will not support them or watch them….Sorry!



I’m not looking for a JoLu reunite right now, but it being a soap you know they’ll end up trapped together a couple times.

I was watching old stuff from Brenda/Sonny and realized that even when they were apart the writers still rewarded fans by having them flashback or have “fantasy” moments about each other. There were a ton of those. Now there’s no rewards at all.

I like that spoiler you just posted. I hope it’s true. Winnie needs to go. Maxie needs to crawl. Lulu needs a fun guy and some adventure. I wish it said M&M were going to happen or that JoHo was off the table for good with some JJ about LuThan tossed in. But the mob is where Johnny belongs, as a single guy, so he has a front row seat for LuThan. It’s time Johnny had to chase Lulu.

#27   2009/04/08 06:57AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Thanks for directing me to this thread Skylie. It was getting hard to write how I really feel in the other one.

I enjoyed yesterday's show, even the Ethan scenes were somewhat tolerable. Still can't see him with Lulu though.

#28   2009/04/08 07:01AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote crystalclear: Thanks for directing me to this thread Skylie. It was getting hard to write how I really feel in the other one.

I enjoyed yesterday's show, even the Ethan scenes were somewhat tolerable. Still can't see him with Lulu though.


How did you feel about Lulu and Matt? I’m a LuThan fan, but I liked how she pulled Matt in and he jumped on board forming a cover story. I think their more friend vibe than couple, but just curious if you liked Matt better for her.

#29   2009/04/08 07:19AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote aerinha:
Quote crystalclear: Thanks for directing me to this thread Skylie. It was getting hard to write how I really feel in the other one.

I enjoyed yesterday's show, even the Ethan scenes were somewhat tolerable. Still can't see him with Lulu though.


How did you feel about Lulu and Matt? I’m a LuThan fan, but I liked how she pulled Matt in and he jumped on board forming a cover story. I think their more friend vibe than couple, but just curious if you liked Matt better for her.


I for one LOVE Matt and wish they would use him more. I just hate the fact they might put him with you-know-who, she just seems to ruin everyone she’s paired with at one time or another. IDK…maybe this will be the “Maxie has met her match” kind of s/l. I hope so cuz her trying to steal Lulu’s bf’s all the time is getting really old. I really think there is way more to Ethan than what’s being let on to the audience. I think he is more than just a pick pocket and a con so I’m not ready to rule him out just yet for Lulu. I wonder what they will do with Johnny id Luthan pass the test (as a couple) with flying colors. OH lord wouldn’t that make the diehard Jolu fans unhappy…OH my!

#30   2009/04/08 07:34AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote skylie2005:
Quote aerinha:
Quote crystalclear: Thanks for directing me to this thread Skylie. It was getting hard to write how I really feel in the other one.

I enjoyed yesterday's show, even the Ethan scenes were somewhat tolerable. Still can't see him with Lulu though.


How did you feel about Lulu and Matt? I’m a LuThan fan, but I liked how she pulled Matt in and he jumped on board forming a cover story. I think their more friend vibe than couple, but just curious if you liked Matt better for her.


I for one LOVE Matt and wish they would use him more. I just hate the fact they might put him with you-know-who, she just seems to ruin everyone she’s paired with at one time or another. IDK…maybe this will be the “Maxie has met her match” kind of s/l. I hope so cuz her trying to steal Lulu’s bf’s all the time is getting really old. I really think there is way more to Ethan than what’s being let on to the audience. I think he is more than just a pick pocket and a con so I’m not ready to rule him out just yet for Lulu. I wonder what they will do with Johnny id Luthan pass the test (as a couple) with flying colors. OH lord wouldn’t that make the diehard Jolu fans unhappy…OH my!


Well, even if LuThan pass their test, that doesn’t mean Johnny can’t swoop in to get the girl later when LuThan need angst. There are rumors Kristina will chase him. Apparently Johnny’s story is: with Lulu, gnat Maxie, chased by a teenager, with Lulu, gnat Maxie, chased by a teenager. Lucky BB. I think Johnny should have a new girl brought on for him if LuThan take off.

I have to say if my reaction to yesterday was any indication I fear for BB’s job because those Crimson scenes w/o him were so refreshing and I really didn’t miss him at all. Not that I didn’t want to smash Maxie’s face in, but having 2 “clean” guys in the mix instead of the tainted Johnny and wimpy Spinelli was just so nice to see for a change. It’s a shame they had to test JoHo in such a damaging manner instead of keeping the limo out or testing M&M from the start because I would really have enjoyed M&M yesterday if they hadn’t made me hate Maxie (and that’s not an opinion that will change now). I fear they may decide the way to smooth things over with ruffled fans is to ditch Johnny altogether instead of going the redemption through suffering route I want them to use for him.

#31   2009/04/08 07:51AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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I have to admit, I have NOT missed Johnny on my screen all that much lately either. (1) I hate him with Maxie…enough said there! (2) I’ve hated the way he can barely look at Lulu and I’m sick of the nasty looks and comments he’s been giving her! (3) I am sooooooo sick of the forehead kiss til I could just puke! (4) I’m sick of all the lying coming out of his mouth!

I would feel bad for BB if he did get the boot, but I really don’t think that will happen. Although, that seems to be the pattern with GH…a character don’t work…kill them off! OH…and them bring them back as a ghost or as another character….original Huh?????

#32   2009/04/08 07:59AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Aerinha, I would much prefer Lulu with Matt! They have a good vibe together, and he's a doctor with an edge! Lulu deserves someone of that caliber, not a con man whose specialty is picking pockets!

#33   2009/04/08 08:03AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote crystalclear: Aerinha, I would much prefer Lulu with Matt! They have a good vibe together, and he's a doctor with an edge! Lulu deserves someone of that caliber, not a con man whose specialty is picking pockets!


Can you imagine a new three stooges vying for Lulu's attention being Johnny, Ethan, and Matt instead of Dillon, Milo, and Spinelli. I think it could be hilarious. Of course, the Lulu hate would be off the charts. But, I'd find it amazingly entertaining.

#34   2009/04/08 08:13AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote crystalclear: Aerinha, I would much prefer Lulu with Matt! They have a good vibe together, and he's a doctor with an edge! Lulu deserves someone of that caliber, not a con man whose specialty is picking pockets!


Well, if M&M don’t work and Luthan don’t work, I suppose they could test Lulu and Matt, but then what do you do with Maxie? I vote throw her off a cliff! He is just so cute and I want to see him on my screen more! I still think there’s more to Ethan than the whole con thing. I’m like Aerinha, I hope he’s from a PC family and is rich!

#35   2009/04/08 08:24AM
Re: Jolu Fans Past, Past Present and Future (Spoilers OK)
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Quote crystalclear: Aerinha, I would much prefer Lulu with Matt! They have a good vibe together, and he's a doctor with an edge! Lulu deserves someone of that caliber, not a con man whose specialty is picking pockets!



If Ethan turned out to be Dante or a Cassadine who is playing a Luke style guy to gain Luke’s trust and to go after Lulu, but he came clean and then was just a charming rich guy would you like him better? I find the con man stuff funny, but agree that that’s not all he can be because it will wear thin.

FM: If they had Matt flirt with Lulu to get Maxie’s attention and had a jealous Ethan steal Matt’s wallet to gain Lulu’s attention back while a fuming Johnny had to watch what appeared to be doctor vs. con man for the mob prince’s former girl that would be hilarious. In that situation I don’t think the haters could complain too much since Matt was doing it to get another girl. Especially if once Matt was out of the picture it was Johnny and Ethan fighting over Lulu. Ethan can goad, but Johnny has that sarcastic one liner thing.

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