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Spixie Discussions!

Started by jcrobinsonADMIN at 2009/04/02 09:51AM
Latest post: 2009/11/21 07:38PM, Views: 61152, Replies: 2541
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#31   2009/04/03 03:34PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
auntdoe
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Quote NewWaterfordGirl: Maxie was on today but not Spin. Jason asked Maxie to go to the apartment to ask her about Ian Devlin. Maxie discussed what she remembered with him. She didn't mention Spin beyond asking about him (at least they included that). Maxie was nice today. She was the Maxie I like...spunky yet calm and more mature. I miss this Maxie and want her to come back full time.

(supporting Spixie!)


DRAT!!! my DVR did not record the show now I either have to suffer through Sonny and Claudia. Prepare myself emotionally for Robin/Carly or record it tonight and watch tomorrow to see Maxie.

#32   2009/04/03 03:40PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
NewWaterford...
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Quote M.Alongi:
Quote NewWaterfordGirl: If anyone wants to come in and discuss Spixie, please feel free to do so. This is a Spixie discussion thread.


I just want to tell Spin/maxi fans who I am sure are in the minority like the Jo/Lo fans are right now, to know changes are made on a drop of a dime on this show. If you like your couple stick with them because one day they are broken apart and a month later they are loving each other more than ever. If soaps have vampires, people coming back from the dead, ghosts or whatever, couple can get past cheating. Every soap has it and it is something that is to be expected at some point. Both Spin & Maxi and Jo/Lu have something special and the best time to realize what you had is when it is gone. Hopefully BF will realize the couple choices he is making are not working.


Welcome back!! I was hoping that you would pop in again!

Thanks for the info. and the encouragement! I agree with auntdoe, they really missed a great opportunity with a Spixie/Jolu friendship. It really is like Mac/Felicia/Lucy/Kevin (I miss those four). They had a fun dynamic. I wonder if TPTB watch the show. I am still keeping the faith for both Spixie and Jolu. Everything is up in the air right now and there are re-writes galore. I am even hopeful that down the road the friendship can be repaired.

Thank your for your encouragement and support! Drop by any time.

#33   2009/04/03 04:57PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
auntdoe
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?) Since the Admin did not put in the title Spoilers Welcome does that mean we can not discuss/debate Spoilers in this thread?

The DD IL page 119 the top thread on the page talks a little about Spixie also mentions JoLu. Of course we need to take with a GOS since we know that is not what is happening in the immediate future. Interesting what it says what Guza wanted versus Frons regarding JoLu.

Of course there was backlash about the quad what did they think was going to happen anyway!!!!!

#34   2009/04/03 05:06PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
M.Alongi
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Quote auntdoe: Since the Admin did not put in the title Spoilers Welcome does that mean we can not discuss/debate Spoilers in this thread?

The DD IL page 119 the top thread on the page talks a little about Spixie also mentions JoLu. Of course we need to take with a GOS since we know that is not what is happening in the immediate future. Interesting what it says what Guza wanted versus Frons regarding JoLu.

Of course there was backlash about the quad what did they think was going to happen anyway!!!!!



I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING. THE THREAD THAT jcrobinson closed was a spoilers thread. Perhaps an admin can add SPOILERS to this one they created to take its place.

#35   2009/04/03 05:15PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
auntdoe
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Quote M.Alongi:
Quote auntdoe: Since the Admin did not put in the title Spoilers Welcome does that mean we can not discuss/debate Spoilers in this thread?

The DD IL page 119 the top thread on the page talks a little about Spixie also mentions JoLu. Of course we need to take with a GOS since we know that is not what is happening in the immediate future. Interesting what it says what Guza wanted versus Frons regarding JoLu.

Of course there was backlash about the quad what did they think was going to happen anyway!!!!!



I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING. THE THREAD THAT jcrobinson closed was a spoilers thread. Perhaps an admin can add SPOILERS to this one they created to take its place.


That would be a good thing; I would not want them to delete yet another thread because we had spoilers in here and was not supposed too. Very frustrating!!!!

#36   2009/04/03 05:19PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
aerinha
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Quote auntdoe:

Of course there was backlash about the quad what did they think was going to happen anyway!!!!!


A very good question that I asked when I read that particular drop too. The only answer I could give myself was that they expected Maxie fans to roll their eyes and says that was her being her and failed to see it as the slap in the face it was to the Spixie fans. They also thought Johnny was popular to weather this and didn't take into account that no one wanted to see him become Logan, least of all a year after the Logan cheated on Lulu with Maxie. It also wasn't a fair couple swap. Lulu and Spinelli had been tested and failed. It wasn't like Maxie was with Matt and while Maxie was out with Johnny we had Lulu and Matt out bonding so that we had to tempted pairs. They set it up as Lulu/Spinelli being the "losers" club and no one wanted to see them dumped on like that. Everything they did encouraged fans of the pairings and of the individual characters to become enraged.

Now they are scratching their heads wondering where the fans went and insist on forging ahead with an unpopular idea instead of dropping it and moving on. They do this all the time, instead of admitting it was a mistake they try to fix it and only wind up dragging it out until it's a mess and then they drop it, but by then they've lost people for good.

#37   2009/04/03 05:39PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
beenafan4ever
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If TPTB changed a storyline everytime there was backlash, the fans would never have closure, we would never understand what was happening....oh right, that is what is happening. But anyway, I was rooting hard for the friendship foursome....Maxie and Lulu..frenimeis, prickly with each other, but always got each others back when the time came. Spin and Johnny with a quirky but sincere friendship, born of being outsiders. What is so wrong with that. Spixie forever...

#38   2009/04/03 05:42PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
auntdoe
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Quote aerinha:
Quote auntdoe:

Of course there was backlash about the quad what did they think was going to happen anyway!!!!!


A very good question that I asked when I read that particular drop too. The only answer I could give myself was that they expected Maxie fans to roll their eyes and says that was her being her and failed to see it as the slap in the face it was to the Spixie fans. They also thought Johnny was popular to weather this and didn't take into account that no one wanted to see him become Logan, least of all a year after the Logan cheated on Lulu with Maxie. It also wasn't a fair couple swap. Lulu and Spinelli had been tested and failed. It wasn't like Maxie was with Matt and while Maxie was out with Johnny we had Lulu and Matt out bonding so that we had to tempted pairs. They set it up as Lulu/Spinelli being the "losers" club and no one wanted to see them dumped on like that. Everything they did encouraged fans of the pairings and of the individual characters to become enraged.

Now they are scratching their heads wondering where the fans went and insist on forging ahead with an unpopular idea instead of dropping it and moving on. They do this all the time, instead of admitting it was a mistake they try to fix it and only wind up dragging it out until it's a mess and then they drop it, but by then they've lost people for good.


Well I love Spixie but if they really thought fans of Spixie/JoLu were going to let it slide that was just plain stupid.

I am not fond of newbies but they need another female in Maxie/LuLu's age range on the show. There are too many males for the two of them so they just try each male out with one then the other after all the only story anyone can tell is a triangle making one female always the loser and the other always the bad one stealing the other one's guy because there there just no other stories than can be told after all (trying a hand at sarcasm but I am not good at it).

JoLu/Spixie could have been fun they could have gone a different route they could've had internal angst for each couple that was character driven but they chose to take the uglier path instead. Johnny/Spin, LuLu/Maxie could have bonded after fights etc. Kind of like Kevin/Mac, Felcia/Lucy after Lucy/Kevin fights/misundersandings.

Sigh as you can tell I am obsessing just a little much about what could have been. Need to shake it off and let it go.

#39   2009/04/03 05:45PM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
auntdoe
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Quote beenafan4ever: If TPTB changed a storyline everytime there was backlash, the fans would never have closure, we would never understand what was happening....oh right, that is what is happening. But anyway, I was rooting hard for the friendship foursome....Maxie and Lulu..frenimeis, prickly with each other, but always got each others back when the time came. Spin and Johnny with a quirky but sincere friendship, born of being outsiders. What is so wrong with that. Spixie forever...


I dunno they sure screwed that up royally. It could have been great.

Supporting Spixie!!!

#40   2009/04/04 04:46AM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
auntdoe
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Morning Still no answer about whether we can have spoilers here. Have not watched yesterday's shows yet either

#41   2009/04/04 07:52AM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
M.Alongi
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moderator
The thread you deleted and replaced with this one was a spoiler thread. Can you make this one a spoiler thread also? Thank you.

Modified 1 times(s), last time at: 2009/04/04 07:56AM
#42   2009/04/04 08:00AM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
aerinha
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Quote auntdoe:
Quote aerinha:
Quote auntdoe:

Of course there was backlash about the quad what did they think was going to happen anyway!!!!!


A very good question that I asked when I read that particular drop too. The only answer I could give myself was that they expected Maxie fans to roll their eyes and says that was her being her and failed to see it as the slap in the face it was to the Spixie fans. They also thought Johnny was popular to weather this and didn't take into account that no one wanted to see him become Logan, least of all a year after the Logan cheated on Lulu with Maxie. It also wasn't a fair couple swap. Lulu and Spinelli had been tested and failed. It wasn't like Maxie was with Matt and while Maxie was out with Johnny we had Lulu and Matt out bonding so that we had to tempted pairs. They set it up as Lulu/Spinelli being the "losers" club and no one wanted to see them dumped on like that. Everything they did encouraged fans of the pairings and of the individual characters to become enraged.

Now they are scratching their heads wondering where the fans went and insist on forging ahead with an unpopular idea instead of dropping it and moving on. They do this all the time, instead of admitting it was a mistake they try to fix it and only wind up dragging it out until it's a mess and then they drop it, but by then they've lost people for good.


Well I love Spixie but if they really thought fans of Spixie/JoLu were going to let it slide that was just plain stupid.

I am not fond of newbies but they need another female in Maxie/LuLu's age range on the show. There are too many males for the two of them so they just try each male out with one then the other after all the only story anyone can tell is a triangle making one female always the loser and the other always the bad one stealing the other one's guy because there there just no other stories than can be told after all (trying a hand at sarcasm but I am not good at it).

JoLu/Spixie could have been fun they could have gone a different route they could've had internal angst for each couple that was character driven but they chose to take the uglier path instead. Johnny/Spin, LuLu/Maxie could have bonded after fights etc. Kind of like Kevin/Mac, Felcia/Lucy after Lucy/Kevin fights/misundersandings.

Sigh as you can tell I am obsessing just a little much about what could have been. Need to shake it off and let it go.



That’s a big problem with GH, no one has friends! Only Sonny is allowed to have friends, like Sonny is the only mobster that can date. Outside of Sonny, all the women are too busy clawing at each other over the same guy when there’s a town of single men going to waste, all the male/female friendships become cheating scenarios and all the male friendships…well there aren’t any male friendships that don’t involve Sonny.

They had a real chance to make Spixie/JoLu a quad of friends who bickered, but were there for each other and they trashed it for cheating and lies. Why? It certainly didn’t help ratings any. Couldn’t you see Maxie and Lulu ganging up on Winnie? Or Spinelli and Johnny warding off Ethan? It would have been funny and given both couples happy, non-boring time. All gone forever!

If only they had left the limo scene out it could have been fixable, but they added it and made the mess 10 times worse. They had the chance to move on like the garage never happened, maybe have it cause a misunderstanding once Maxie started keeping Ric’s secret if Spinelli blabbed to Lulu about it and allowing that to cause JoLu’s break-up, but instead they decided to proceed with making the situation worse no matter how much it damaged the characters involved (and all four of them were severely damaged here). So now in another month or so when they realize that the fix wasn’t saying Johnny/Maxie were attracted to each other and they try to send Johnny back to Lulu and Maxie back to Spinelli they’ll damage all four again because taking the cheaters back make Lulu/Spinelli look weak and asking to be taken back make Johnny/Maxie even more selfish and mean. Sort of like how they made Sam look so bad about Jake and then having her friendly with Jason and Liz now. They look bad for trusting her and she looks bad for going back to a guy that said he'd kill her.

#43   2009/04/04 11:11AM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
NewWaterford...
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Quote auntdoe:
Quote aerinha:
Quote auntdoe:

Of course there was backlash about the quad what did they think was going to happen anyway!!!!!


A very good question that I asked when I read that particular drop too. The only answer I could give myself was that they expected Maxie fans to roll their eyes and says that was her being her and failed to see it as the slap in the face it was to the Spixie fans. They also thought Johnny was popular to weather this and didn't take into account that no one wanted to see him become Logan, least of all a year after the Logan cheated on Lulu with Maxie. It also wasn't a fair couple swap. Lulu and Spinelli had been tested and failed. It wasn't like Maxie was with Matt and while Maxie was out with Johnny we had Lulu and Matt out bonding so that we had to tempted pairs. They set it up as Lulu/Spinelli being the "losers" club and no one wanted to see them dumped on like that. Everything they did encouraged fans of the pairings and of the individual characters to become enraged.

Now they are scratching their heads wondering where the fans went and insist on forging ahead with an unpopular idea instead of dropping it and moving on. They do this all the time, instead of admitting it was a mistake they try to fix it and only wind up dragging it out until it's a mess and then they drop it, but by then they've lost people for good.


Well I love Spixie but if they really thought fans of Spixie/JoLu were going to let it slide that was just plain stupid.

I am not fond of newbies but they need another female in Maxie/LuLu's age range on the show. There are too many males for the two of them so they just try each male out with one then the other after all the only story anyone can tell is a triangle making one female always the loser and the other always the bad one stealing the other one's guy because there there just no other stories than can be told after all (trying a hand at sarcasm but I am not good at it).

JoLu/Spixie could have been fun they could have gone a different route they could've had internal angst for each couple that was character driven but they chose to take the uglier path instead. Johnny/Spin, LuLu/Maxie could have bonded after fights etc. Kind of like Kevin/Mac, Felcia/Lucy after Lucy/Kevin fights/misundersandings.

Sigh as you can tell I am obsessing just a little much about what could have been. Need to shake it off and let it go.


Wow. I'm really sorry that I missed out on this great conversation.

Aerinha and Auntdoe, ITA with everything you said. I can't believe that TPTB didn't think that there was going to be a backlash. Or, maybe they didn't think that the backlash would be as big as it has been (and as big as I hope that it continues to be). I think that TPTB really missed out on a great opportunity. I don't understand why they won't let what's working continue to work.

#44   2009/04/04 11:13AM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
NewWaterford...
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Quote beenafan4ever: If TPTB changed a storyline everytime there was backlash, the fans would never have closure, we would never understand what was happening....oh right, that is what is happening. But anyway, I was rooting hard for the friendship foursome....Maxie and Lulu..frenimeis, prickly with each other, but always got each others back when the time came. Spin and Johnny with a quirky but sincere friendship, born of being outsiders. What is so wrong with that. Spixie forever...


Welcome to the thread!! (althougth it would appear that I am a little tardy on the welcome

What you says makes great sense. I was rooting for the friendship foursome too. It may sound incredibly illogical, but I am still.

I like your tag line. Spixie forever!

#45   2009/04/04 11:35AM
Re: Spixie Discussions!
NewWaterford...
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Quote aerinha:

That’s a big problem with GH, no one has friends! Only Sonny is allowed to have friends, like Sonny is the only mobster that can date. Outside of Sonny, all the women are too busy clawing at each other over the same guy when there’s a town of single men going to waste, all the male/female friendships become cheating scenarios and all the male friendships…well there aren’t any male friendships that don’t involve Sonny.

They had a real chance to make Spixie/JoLu a quad of friends who bickered, but were there for each other and they trashed it for cheating and lies. Why? It certainly didn’t help ratings any. Couldn’t you see Maxie and Lulu ganging up on Winnie? Or Spinelli and Johnny warding off Ethan? It would have been funny and given both couples happy, non-boring time. All gone forever!

If only they had left the limo scene out it could have been fixable, but they added it and made the mess 10 times worse. They had the chance to move on like the garage never happened, maybe have it cause a misunderstanding once Maxie started keeping Ric’s secret if Spinelli blabbed to Lulu about it and allowing that to cause JoLu’s break-up, but instead they decided to proceed with making the situation worse no matter how much it damaged the characters involved (and all four of them were severely damaged here). So now in another month or so when they realize that the fix wasn’t saying Johnny/Maxie were attracted to each other and they try to send Johnny back to Lulu and Maxie back to Spinelli they’ll damage all four again because taking the cheaters back make Lulu/Spinelli look weak and asking to be taken back make Johnny/Maxie even more selfish and mean. Sort of like how they made Sam look so bad about Jake and then having her friendly with Jason and Liz now. They look bad for trusting her and she looks bad for going back to a guy that said he'd kill her.


You make a lot of really good points here Aerinha, IMO.

First of all, friendships. This show DESPERATELY needs friendships. I also think it needs more cast integration. That way if different characters are in a scene together it is not a sign of chem testing. Many of these couples are just that, couples that you can pull out and it wouldn't impact any part of the overall show. Using Scrubs for an example (because Spixie/Jolu is just such a mess right now) Robin is spending time with Jason and Patrick is spending time with Liz. Okay, good, but they don't have to have ALL of their scenes with them. Or, conversely, they should have had more scenes with them in the past so that it doesn't stand out. Friendships should be just that. Friendships. It also creates a stronger show.

I also think that TPTB have to stop mixing up couples. Why invest in any if they are just going to mix them up. If they think a couple is boring, write a good story for them. Use the uniqueness and dynamic of each character and couple to guide the storyline. For Spixie, it could be Maxie's insecurities about being left. She was at a point where it could have been done sensitively, not have her go into complete self-destructive mode. They just annoy the fans if they betray the characters/couples that they have developed and in whom the fans invested. Imagination is free and has a much bigger payoff. Changing characters to fit angst is, as auntdoe said, contrived. It is also similar to a personality transplant in characters that the fans know well.

As for the limo scene. ITA with what you say. It could have been easily resolved if they had left it out. In fact, I believe that it was resolving. I think that this was a re-write that they inserted. They were supposed to have that NASCAR guy on that day. Instead, limo sleaze. The only way to make Spin and Lulu not look like the victims is to have them both reject Maxie and Spin. However, this whole thing does not ring even slightly true to the relationships of these couples that TPTB had created up until New Years. It has been a disaster and I hope that the backlash continues. I think we can get our couples back if we keep up the support and if Maxie and Johnny are shown fighting for the ones they love.

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