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Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!

Started by Taye322 at 2008/10/29 11:23PM
Latest post: 2008/11/15 12:04AM, Views: 3697, Replies: 280
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#131   2008/11/12 08:22PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
meowbowow
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Excellent post Wish and they r AMAZING together. I really don't see how anybody can deny that!!

#132   2008/11/12 08:28PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
liz-fan
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Quote Taye322:
Quote cincyghfan: But Jason has made his choice, he has chosen to be a mobster. He could have left with Liz and the boys and started a life with them, he chose not to. I just dont understand why Jason keeps making decision that take him further and further away from Liz, the Liason fans clamp on tighter to the idea of them. Don't you want Liz and the boys to be happy?


That's a question I have for Liason fans, Jason CHOSE the mob, and u can't get out alive, so wouldn't a real Liason romance (not hidden) be putting Liz and her boys in constant danger, I am no Liz fan but after watching Carly delt/deals with concerning her children being associated with Sonny/Jason why would u want Liz to go thru that? I'm no fan but doesn't she/her boys deserve more than that. I love JaSam but Sam can handle the mob, she has no problem with danger and she has no children to worry about constantly(if she did I may think differently).


Howdo you feel bout Jasam? Why do you want Sam with a mn that threaten to kill her? Because you love the pairing. Am i right and you can see that Sam was shot so just because she can handle a gun doesn't make her bullet proof. Last If i'm not mistaken Sam wants kids. So all the same resons for us being ok with Liason and danger would apply to Jasam also. So just think about how you feel for Jasam and that is how we feel for Liason.

Last Jake is Jason's son. Not a could be, not a future. He is here and someone will find out then the safest place for Jake and Liz will be with Jason as it always was the safest place. JMO.

#133   2008/11/12 08:30PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote Taye322:
Quote meowbowow:
Quote Taye322

That's a question I have for Liason fans, Jason CHOSE the mob, and u can't get out alive, so wouldn't a real Liason romance (not hidden) be putting Liz and her boys in constant danger, I am no Liz fan but after watching Carly delt/deals with concerning her children being associated with Sonny/Jason why would u want Liz to go thru that? I'm no fan but doesn't she/her boys deserve more than that. I love JaSam but Sam can handle the mob, she has no problem with danger and she has no children to worry about constantly(if she did I may think differently).


I for one am going to wait and how Liason plays out b4 I make any comments on Liz putting her kids in danger. As has been said several times b4 by Liason fans, Jake's paternity will have to be outted b4 Jason will finally see that he can keep them safe better together than apart.

I didn't say Liz was putting her kids in danger, I asked wouldn't they ALL(Liz included) be in danger? I'm not bashing Liz or accusing her of anything, I'm just curious why u Liason fans want Liason even though Jason's life/world woiuld/could put Liz in the line of fire.


LOL I get what you are saying but again I think we are far past this issue or at least I am....the fact is that Elizabeth has been in Jason life and has been his only staple outside of Carly and Sonny over the years!!

Elizabeth has been in the line of fire before...has been used to get a Jason...however to me Elizabeth isn't this little mousey woman....Again it goes to how viewers see Elizabeth...she isn't one that is naive and has said she is one that has been scared into making the right decisions rather than what is going to make her happy....Making decisions in which she felt others would look at as the "right decision"....I want to see Elizabeth be HER...because as a teenager she was rebellious, a freakin' hand full for Audrey...but still had that spunky fun side to her!!

Sure being with Jason is dangerous...(however for my soap couple) BRING THEM ON BABY!!!

Elizabeth and Jason will take every precaution they need to in order to ensure the safety of the boys however bottom line is that Jake is ALREADY HERE....He has Jason's blood coursing thru his viens and Jason loves his son!!

Liason could be the OPPOSITE of CarSon....what I mean by that is that CarSon didn't really think things thru and at times what happened to their family was their own doing...I want to see Elizabeth standing next to Jason because it would be interesting and take that stereo type some viewers seem to have about Elizabeth and smash it to show who she really is because I think she hides behind what others think she should be...I don't believe we have seen all of Ms. Elizabeth Imogene Webber!

#134   2008/11/12 08:36PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote Wishing4Liason

Liason could be the OPPOSITE of CarSon....what I mean by that is that CarSon didn't really think things thru and at times what happened to their family was their own doing...I want to see Elizabeth standing next to Jason because it would be interesting and take that stereo type some viewers seem to have about Elizabeth and smash it to show who she really is because I think she hides behind what others think she should be...I don't believe we have seen all of Ms. Elizabeth Imogene Webber!


ITA about Liason being the total opposite of CarSon b/c where Sonny goes off half assed w/things Jason thinks w/a clear head and not his OTHER BRAIN. I don't think some ppl have really watched Liason in action b/c for one they aren't a fan, and that is fine, and they hate her for breaking up their fav couple when she DID NOT. If those ppl would really watch them I think they would totally agree w/u....... we have not seen all of Ms. Elizabeth Imogene Webber!! She is no slouch when it comes to Jason's lifestyle but one has to actually watch the show to know this!!

#135   2008/11/12 08:37PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Well I'm not happy following the eloquence of Wishing but I'll just add a few of my own thoughts. I can't improve upon her post at all, particularly regarding Jason.

At the moment, I'm not on the Liason train however I can answer about Lucky. Lucky is not the same person he was as a teenager and quite frankly neither is Liz. That time in their lives was magical (as Wish said) and they have spent a lot of time and effort trying to recapture it but they are adults now and that first love has not survived the rigors of life.

I could write a thesis about why LnL2 don't work but I'll just comment on what unequivocably ended it... for me. In another thread I said that both Lucky and Liz have committed unpardonable sins and should never be anything but friends. Lucky's sin was to turn on her when Jake was missing. The measure of someone's character is not when times are good but when times are difficult. When Liz needed him most...he turned on her. That's it for me.

Liz's sin was lying about Jake. We all know why she allowed him to believe it but when she married him while very pregnant by someone else and lied to his face...well that's just unpardonable. Make no mistake, I'm a HUGE Liz fan but she has never been a saint. IA with Wishing, that title belongs to Robin.

#136   2008/11/12 08:38PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote meowbowow:
Quote Wishing4Liason

Liason could be the OPPOSITE of CarSon....what I mean by that is that CarSon didn't really think things thru and at times what happened to their family was their own doing...I want to see Elizabeth standing next to Jason because it would be interesting and take that stereo type some viewers seem to have about Elizabeth and smash it to show who she really is because I think she hides behind what others think she should be...I don't believe we have seen all of Ms. Elizabeth Imogene Webber!


ITA about Liason being the total opposite of CarSon b/c where Sonny goes off half assed w/things Jason thinks w/a clear head and not his OTHER BRAIN. I don't think some ppl have really watched Liason in action b/c for one they aren't a fan, and that is fine, and they hate her for breaking up their fav couple when she DID NOT. If those ppl would really watch them I think they would totally agree w/u....... we have not seen all of Ms. Elizabeth Imogene Webber!! She is no slouch when it comes to Jason's lifestyle but one has to actually watch the show to know this!!


I totally agree with you both!! Liz will shine!!

#137   2008/11/12 08:40PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote hopes4liason

I totally agree with you both!! Liz will shine!!


She has shone many, many times b4 w/Jason. My most fav example would be on the ledge w/him at the B/W Ball. Her quick thinking, and WITHOUT A GUN, saved their lives!!

#138   2008/11/12 08:43PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote meowbowow:
Quote hopes4liason

I totally agree with you both!! Liz will shine!!


She has shone many, many times b4 w/Jason. My most fav example would be on the ledge w/him at the B/W Ball. Her quick thinking, and WITHOUT A GUN, saved their lives!!


That was one of my favorite episodes too!! I love how she read Jason too. She totally gets him.

#139   2008/11/12 08:49PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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First: Sam can't have kids, second Liz already has 2 little ones. I know u guys love Liason I don't doubt that for a second, that's why I asked. As I see it most Liason fans are more Liz fans than Jason fans. I'm just looking at how Carly/Sonny being together affected Michael/Morgan and even though Liz clearly thinks more than Carly she would still be in that position, always looking over her shoulder for her and her boys. And I know Sam's not bulletproof but she seems to like the danger, Liz doesn't like it but I see she tries to accept it. But thank u Liason fans for not ganging up on me here, but u guys really think they would be safer together? I guess I just don't see it but I respect those that do

#140   2008/11/12 08:51PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote hopes4liason

That was one of my favorite episodes too!! I love how she read Jason too. She totally gets him.


Oh she so totally gets him, that is the key w/that relationship IMO. I think u hit the nail on the head w/that one!! She does things quietly but gets the job done nicely. She doesn't need to come blasting in loud and long w/some huge weapon to accomplish it. That's what I love about our girl!!

#141   2008/11/12 08:56PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote Taye322: First: Sam can't have kids, second Liz already has 2 little ones. I know u guys love Liason I don't doubt that for a second, that's why I asked. As I see it most Liason fans are more Liz fans than Jason fans. I'm just looking at how Carly/Sonny being together affected Michael/Morgan and even though Liz clearly thinks more than Carly she would still be in that position, always looking over her shoulder for her and her boys. And I know Sam's not bulletproof but she seems to like the danger, Liz doesn't like it but I see she tries to accept it. But thank u Liason fans for not ganging up on me here, but u guys really think they would be safer together? I guess I just don't see it but I respect those that do


At this point HECK yeah they would be safer together...I mean how MANY people already know about Elizabeth and her importance to Jason add to that the people that already know about Jake....Cripes almighty it is actually becoming a JOKE at this point that they aren't together....I mean what happened to Michael was because Sonny doing what Jason seems to be doing right now and that is NOT USING GUARDS..Dayum I want to smack him for not even seeing that issue!!

As for this Jason fan, I so want them together because they have traveled a VERY bumpy road together and need to put on some reality glasses at this point....Really the question is who doesn't know!! Yes while Elizabeth does have TWO children (dayum Pyro Cam is got to be the cutest)one of those children is Jason's so yeah I want to see him with his son!! Ya know as a Jason fan and all, I want what I feel is best for him!!

Good questions though Taye!!

#142   2008/11/12 08:56PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote Taye322: First: Sam can't have kids, second Liz already has 2 little ones. I know u guys love Liason I don't doubt that for a second, that's why I asked. As I see it most Liason fans are more Liz fans than Jason fans. I'm just looking at how Carly/Sonny being together affected Michael/Morgan and even though Liz clearly thinks more than Carly she would still be in that position, always looking over her shoulder for her and her boys. And I know Sam's not bulletproof but she seems to like the danger, Liz doesn't like it but I see she tries to accept it. But thank u Liason fans for not ganging up on me here, but u guys really think they would be safer together? I guess I just don't see it but I respect those that do


Carly/Sonny were totally different!! Sonny was a hothead and Jason is calm, cool, collected, and thinks things thru totally b4 ever making a move. Since Liz doesn't like the danger she will stay OUT of his business unlike Sam. That will make Jason's job much easier to keep them safe!! She has her job she loves at the hospital and is not a danger junky. We wouldn't gang up on u. You asked a question, were polite about it, and we were happy to answer. Also Sam could have children in the blink of an eye if tptb chose for her to. So I have the same question for u...... if that were to happen how would u feel about it?

#143   2008/11/12 09:05PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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This is a soap and anything is possible, Courtney supposedly couldn't have kids and she ended up preggers with Spencer. So if the soap gods decided that Sam could indeed have kids would that change your mind about Sam and Jason getting back together? Or if Sam's daughter would have survived would you have wanted her to get as far away from Jason as possible? Also Sam wanted to adopt a baby with Jason, so just because she can't get preggers doesn't mean she couldn't be a mom. I ask because I constantly see remarks made about Liz is a bad mother for wanting to be with Jason, but I wonder if the situation was reversed and it was Sam with a baby or had a baby with Jason would the Jasam fans feel the same way about Sam as they do about Liz?

I'm not trying to start an argument, like you I just wonder how the Sam/Jasam fans feel about Jasam having a family

#144   2008/11/12 09:13PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote frustratedfan: Well I'm not happy following the eloquence of Wishing but I'll just add a few of my own thoughts. I can't improve upon her post at all, particularly regarding Jason.

At the moment, I'm not on the Liason train however I can answer about Lucky. Lucky is not the same person he was as a teenager and quite frankly neither is Liz. That time in their lives was magical (as Wish said) and they have spent a lot of time and effort trying to recapture it but they are adults now and that first love has not survived the rigors of life.

I could write a thesis about why LnL2 don't work but I'll just comment on what unequivocably ended it... for me. In another thread I said that both Lucky and Liz have committed unpardonable sins and should never be anything but friends. Lucky's sin was to turn on her when Jake was missing. The measure of someone's character is not when times are good but when times are difficult. When Liz needed him most...he turned on her. That's it for me.

Liz's sin was lying about Jake. We all know why she allowed him to believe it but when she married him while very pregnant by someone else and lied to his face...well that's just unpardonable. Make no mistake, I'm a HUGE Liz fan but she has never been a saint. IA with Wishing, that title belongs to Robin.


Aaaawww Frus...Thank you for the kind words....however I want to read your thesis about LnL2....where do I need to sign up for that POV to published??

#145   2008/11/12 09:14PM
Re: Question. . .Sam/Liz Fans!
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Quote Taye322: As I see it most Liason fans are more Liz fans than Jason fans.


Actually.....sadly its quite the opposite....some Elizabeth fans.....those who are usually Liz-FF.....are actually not really big fans of Liason....there aren't many of us out there but we're there nonetheless.....

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