General Hospital - MESSAGE BOARDS

Stormy, if you needed to vent and feel better I am happy for you and anyone else that needed to do that.


If I can point out one other thing and I might open my mouth and stick my foot in but I am ok with that. I would like to point out that that there is more "turmoil" in our own fanbase than with the "haters". Personally I think that partly is because the arguments that they had/have with Liason have been dealt with. Just an observation.

Hey Stormy!!!

Great thread and great posts!!!

As someone with only one vested interest in Liason and that only being in the form of Elizabeth let me just say this:

The instant Jason chose to treat Elizabeth as a second-class citizen (which began during the years of LiRic and CourtHoe) I officially gave up on all things Liason and Jason.....

As a former fan watching you go through this I feel incredibly sad and mad on your behalf.....see I KNEW this would happen....I KNEW Elizabeth would never really be a priority not only for Jason but not one for TPTB either....

Rebecca Herbst is a supporting actress who has done an INCREDIBLE job carrying the burden of making the leading actors of GH look good.....but what has she got to show for it?

She gets to take on a role that I have loved since the moment of its inception and have watched it have some awesomely glorious times until there came a point when it was used to 'prop' another character to give it more depth....I won't mention names because that's not my point....

My concern is this: Liason is a train that seems to be going nowhere......no.......its actually derailing.....I find no value in scenes shared between this coupling and I find no value in watching Elizabeth Webber be systematically destroyed on the altar of proving Jason Morgan right....

Thus, the scenes I enjoy are where Elizabeth stands up for herself and where she fights for what she wants....I mostly ignore the reasons for her determination but I enjoy watching Rebecca Herbst excel at her craft.....

For me Liason was a great dream that I was rudely awakened from and now my fear is that because of Jake.....this time it will be even worse.....my fear is that Elizabeth will be portrayed by these writers as even worse off just so that when the pairing is over.....even Jason's $hit will come out smelling like roses.....

This is the only reason I will never support this pairing and it is the very same reason why I feel bad for all those Liason fans holding on to a hope that might never see fruition.....

Stormy the other day I was right where you are at to and I still am somewhat. I don't think I have ever been so mad at GH and their writers, ever! The one thing that we Liason fans hold dear was the trip to Italy and here they tease us with it and then pull it right out from under us, with a giggle attached to it. Right now GH is making me dislike Jason and this has NEVER happened before, I mean how can anyone not like him, other than Rain, but we love her anyway! If GH is trying to divide us Liason fans they are succeeding, but then I think we need to fight harder for what we want!

Can anyone else think of another hurdle/problem Liason needs to solve before they become a public couple? I can't!

I am not saying I am giving up, never will! I do think that when us Liason fans get mad we need to vent, stick together and not brush off a posters thoughts cause the post was not all sunshine and roses!

[i]I wasn't even going to post, but I said what the hell. This is a forum where all opinions should be welcomed and for the most part, I believe they are.

I as a fan have gotten to the point where I try not to get overly excited or down in the dumps blue with this couple. This is a soap and we are at the mercy of one stroke of the writer's pen. I love this couple and they are the main reason why I watch GH. When/if they put them together I will be very happy and if they don't oh well. So I will continue to hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.

Hey Shel...Me and you lady!!

As I have said before, I get frustration....As a fan I hear we have waited 9 years, however we can't forget that a whole lotta people haven't or don't even know Liason have a past!!

When I saw that they were going back down the Liason trail...my head automatically said Uh Oh...because even as a fan of theirs I will be the first to acknwoledge that the pairing has some past issues then add to that NEW viewers tht were saying WTH?? Liason so doesn't make sense....So TPTB in my opinion had really an uphill battle on their hands!!

However I certainly don't see TPTB tearing the couple apart or the characters being brought down, in fact we have actually gotten the Return of Lizzie, with some freakin' backbone back!! (I rejoice to that) Jason isn't a jerk, he FINALLY has acknowledged what he is most scared of and that is losing Elizabeth!!

As for others couple having screen time, loving and all that stuff....where is Liason not loving one another?? Not to mention for all the other couples that you are referring to Stormy, where are they NOW?? On line I have seen banters about NOT having strong couples, that pairings are thrown together with little or no foundation....then the show dismantles them just as fast....I for one want the foundation...I want a STRONG couple that will be around for time!!

I certainly didn't want them thrown together because I have seen skeptic and haters alike have one big complainant and that is that Jason only loves Elizabeth because of Jake...So I am glad that they kept them apart for a while...Jason and Elizabeth are working thru issues...They are so different then any other couple....If they just said whatever forget the danger, wouldn't that make them like CarSon??

As a Jason fan he has been written so in character that it isn't even funny....Jason issue has always been that he put Elizabeth up on a pedastal....some thing that he couldn't obtain...he treated her like a china doll...So NOT wanting to risk anything happening to her yet his heart can't quit loving her is PURE Jason...With that stubborness and way of thinking though also is why Jason is where he is in the fact that he doesn't understand that Elizabeth knows all that...she herself addressed this issue...To me again their dialogue is very important...It isn't Jason's call to make as he is slowly learning!!

As for all the things that fans wanted yet not getting...again to me I find it as TPTB are trying to show with the Italy trip that Liason do have history...It was Jason's idea, so for those that say he just left her at the airport what a jerk...SERIOUS?? He freakin' planned the trip...but in the convo about Italy it was showing that they discussed Italy before as well as a mention of the globe..(Marking off that Liason doesn't have history off the list)

Oh and for the comment about taking ownership of a thread, I found to be rude...For me I am opinionated as heck and don't apologize for it, but I also listen to varying opinions and views however I feel a certain way and give clear examples with why I feel that way and I know Shel does the same thing....So going in a thread and stating that some of us do not feel negative or positive isn't taking ownership...it is called having an OPINION that is different then some one elses!!

People want to bag on Liason, then have at it....I as well as a few others are giving why we see things differently..however I have seen some twist screen in order to complain (not in this thread) and when some one comes in a states differently what is the issue??

I was answering Stormy because she made a point about Jason and as a HUGE Jason fan, I am finding TPTB are giving him some much needed growth....He is learning that some choices that he has made he has to live with and understanding consequences...So for one this Jason fan is very much enjoying his part!!

P.S Stormy you know I love reading your opinion and go elsewhere to even read your stuff!!

There have been some great posts in here ladies. I don't think I can add anything that hasn't already been said.

Venting cleanses the soul, so I am going to vent alittle here. I am so disappointed the writers have put the its too dangerous routine back in here.

Everytime our couple takes two steps forward they take five back. It's very frustrating and annoying for me.

The writers use Liason like a puppet. They are constantly pulling the strings to pull us in, and they they jerk us away with the all the angst and the danger.

I'm not looking for a perfect ending here, but what's wrong with giving them more than five minutes of happiness at any given time.

Liason has a huge fan base, and it's almost like we are being dismissed again. Do we only get results when we flood the comment line and write in? I just don't get how it's the Sonny Carly hour. I for one tune out and don't watch the show when they only show case them.

Both Steve B and Rebecca H. have done an amazing job with these characters. And the fan base is there because of them. They want Liason as a couple, we want Liason. How hard is it to put pen to paper and make it happen.

Interesting topic.

I am new to the board and this topic caught my attention because I was one that wasn't big on the pairing of Jason and Liz to begin with. I wasn't captured by their first go around and didn't pay that much attention to them but this time around I have to say they are hooking me into their story.

I am a bit flabberghasted because I feel some of us veiwers that were not fans before or maybe just new to the show needed some of what the producers/writers are telling us. I really forgot about their past. Sorry but I am not a long term fan and in no way can recite this pairings history. For me I needed these little reminders.

The story has now captured me due to the story that is being unfolded. My take is that Jason and Liz have had roadblocks in their path before. I know for me they did, and I find that the people in charge are addressing those barriers and helping me understand this couple.

I have seen character growth and layers added to each character yet still handling the core of the character with respect.

Liz is alot more enjoyable to watch now that she has that attitude back she did when she came onto the show, I often wondered if they forgot who she was. She was lost in the Lucky pairing, therefore the enjoyment of watching her became less.

Jason my soap gods where do I start? This guy was complexed a very layered character yet with the past 4 years he was stale. He was in relationships that didn't warrant change in him, perhaps that is why the show paired him with those others ladies.

I was a skeptic of this couple however with the change and how the story is mirroring that of Jason and Liz of old, hand holding some of us to show their bond. I was often one that yearned for a good strong relationship on daytime, and now here comes one.

If I was a fan for as long as some of you claim to be, I think I would be estatic that a story I waited so long to be told is being told, and try and understand that not everyone was a previous fan, I can see where the show wants to reel in more fans and address what seems to be old issues. They have reeled me in a bit.

Good luck to those that at least try and see the positive in the story and sorry that the story might have been told at a slow pace in order to catch up folks like me.