General Hospital - MESSAGE BOARDS

First, I would like to mention that as far as I can see Wish has not been in this thread!

Second, though I doubt that you will agree with anything I have said, I have gone through and answered each part of the original post the way I see.

“Now, after watching Jason basically crawl out of bed with Liz to wipe Carly's tears over her latest self-caused disaster.” I know that we fundamentally disagree with this but I do believe that Elizabeth pushed Jason to take care of Carly. Several times Jason tried to object.

”Watching Jason leave the mother of his child anxiously waiting for him at the airport while he did his usual job of being Sonny's whipping boy and servant.” Why Jason would plan a plane trip to take off minutes after Sonny’s ceremony I don’t know. But I also know that things occur off screen and we never know what they are. As I explained in the thread that was started. We don’t know if he tried and couldn’t get through. We don’t know if things were so crazy that he didn’t realize how much time went by. Are you telling me that you have never left a loved one wondering where you are when you are in the middle of a crisis? Sorry but I know for a fact that I have and I have been that family member. When there is a crisis (as someone getting shot is) certain rules go out the window in my opinion.

”watching Jason try to shove down Liz's throat that she is gonna end up shot to death if she stays with him” Why is it hard to believe that this is Jason’s biggest fear? Frankly the fact that he is even speaking of it shows growth in his character. There is constant complaint that we don’t see growth. Well here is a perfect example. Jason acknowledging a fear, speaking of it. It is possibility that it could happen to Elizabeth. They both have to come to terms with it and the way to do that is to talk about it. Which I believe they are doing.

” watching Jason drop everything and run off and leave Liz at the hospital because Carly summoned him” Carly isn’t a threat to Liason and even Elizabeth knows this and has mentioned as much to Robin. The thing is that we look at all the examples of when someone has summoned Jason and left Elizabeth but we forget to look at the times when Jason has put others on hold for Elizabeth. Jason was suppose to work when he found Elizabeth on the ground when she was pregnant with Jake. Jason was anxiously waiting Elizabeth call last fall and walked out of a meeting with Sonny. When Elizabeth needs Jason he is there for her. And when ANYONE be it Carly, Sonny, Maxie, etc needs Jason he is there for them.

”I ask myself this question: Are the writers writing Liason this way to force us to turn away from them?” Again I would say that we went through so of these issues last time and the way they were dealt with, the outcomes etc. were different. Comparing the history of Liason to the present I believe that it is obvious that this time is different.

”To divide Liason fans against themselves? Into Liz supporters who want Liz to dump Jason and into Jason supporters who want to see Jason with a woman firmly entrenched in his moblife.” Frankly, I haven’t seen a Liason who is might side more with Jason asking for him to be with someone else. I have seen more Liason fans that support Elizabeth that want her to move on. I for one like them both but do tend to see things more in lines with Jason.

”To cause us to give up the hope that we have been holding on to for this couple to have some happiness together as a family?” Not sure what to tell you here because not everyone is giving up. And honestly I find this to be an odd time to be giving up. I haven’t really seen anything lately. If people wanted to give up after Michael I would understand better than now.

”The writers have the power to twist and turn, with the stroke of their pen, Liason's story any way they want to. They can write moblife as dangerous as they want or as safe as they want.” But the idea of the worry and danger of the moblife has always been an issue with Liason. First, Elizabeth didn’t want to be involved in it. And as she said during NOP that after having Cam Jason was the risk she just couldn’t take. And for Jason, losing Elizabeth he feels is something that he can’t do and if it were to be because of him that would break him.

”They can write a wonderfully romantic story for Elizabeth and Jason or they can write the stuff that we have watched playing on our screens since Jason asked Liz to marry him and then broke up with her hours later.” Again, I think that this was necessary. Michael being shot was throwing what could happen Cake and any other children Liason might have in THEIR faces. And when they deal with it and know what they are getting involved in and not pretending (like Olivia said Kate was doing) than they will be stronger for it.

”Are the writers taking every single dream that we have had for Liason and deliberately destroying them one by one?” You can see my previous post where I said no.

”We want them married, Micheal gets shot and now they both have decided that they have no future together.” Now? Now we have Elizabeth saying I know what I am getting into I am willing to take that risk. Even the trip to Italy was a sign that Jason thought there was a future for them.

”The trip to Italy was like a sacred dream we all had for Jason and Elizabeth, the writers managed to create a scenario to crash and burn that dream for us.” Why would they give it to us? And if we were going to get it why would it be now? More I think that this was a notation that they know that it is important to them and that it is important to the fans. Those tickets can be rescheduled. They are still valid. I fully believe that we will be getting that trip.

”What's next? Are they gonna burn Liz's studio down? Send that up in ashes? They have already effectively given Jake to Lucky.” Giving Jake to Lucky? WOW! I would think the exact opposite. Lucky seems to spend little time with Jake and Cam. Lucky was very upset about Elizabeth possibly going away with Jason.

”Liz just stated the other day, that Jason would never ever be around Cake.” Never say never especially in a soap because the exact opposite will happen. Isn’t that rule #1.

Third, I am not a writer, I do not know any of these things for a fact. All I can say is if in 6 months they aren’t together and are in the same place or have moved on just say I told you so. But frankly, by that point I would imagine that most Liason fans would be gone because we threaten to walk all the time.

Again, as I mentioned in the Liason thread why on earth would they put Liason together at the end of September? Wouldn’t it make more sense to use that for sweeps? Businesswise Liason brings in a LOT of viewers. We continue to watch. If we have 1 min or 10; so why would they want to rush this? If I stand alone I don’t care I have done it before and will probably do it again but I have no idea why dealing with the problems that Liason faces before they get together is so wrong. They have systematically started to deal as a COUPLE with each of their fears, concerns and issues. And I believe that is what GREAT couples are based on. So, I will continue to watch. I will continue to search on youtube and I will continue to compare the past with the present and see the differences.

Finally, I really do not feel like debating this couple. I am happy at the moment and if there are fans that are not I am sorry. All I can say is we will have to wait and see.

I just read Shel's post... and that is exactly how I feel. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I realize that I started a thread stating that I understand why Jason is not with Liz. I didn't get it before but I do now really I do. However, that does not mean that I am not tired of the back and forth, back and forth. I have been watching for a long time, from the beginning, so, like others, I have been waiting for freaking ever.

I sat through, that nonsense with Twitney, and I tried to like him with Sam, but Jason and Liz have a chemistry that makes me love daytime. I have tried to not care about this couple, but it is not possible, I just can't not care.

So I tell myself maybe the writers who, by the way, could very well just write them together, but won't, don't put them together just so that we remember that there is always hope. They may not be together now, but look how many Liasonites there are who still will not give up even when it looks hopeless, like it does now. Maybe they just want to see how long we can or will hold out hope. Maybe they know they are gonna put them together, but amuses them when and if they come in these threads and read about our frustrations.

Maybe that is how they get their daily jollies, by knowing that we can get soooo bent out of shape by the anxt, and frustration of them not being together, while knowing that they have every intention of putting them together. They just want to see how long we will hold out.

Well, if this is so, and if they are reading this, I just want to say that, I have waited this freaking long, I can wait longer. It annoys me to wait, and yes, I could turn off the TV, but then one day I won't be watching, and that will be the day that they will FINALLY put them together, and I will have missed it because I gave up hope. And frankly, after all this time, that would really really suck.

So no, I don't think that they are trying to methodically destroy Liaison They are just screwing with us and testing us to see if we can outlast them. I for one am up for the challenge and I believe I will get what I have been waiting for. Ummm this may all be crap, but it helps me to see it this way. I have wrecked to many remotes by throwing them at my TV, so I had to come up with another coping mechanism. So far, this is working for me.

Props!! to you Stormy for saying what we all have been thinking. My disappointment in GH has been increasing daily.
I am at the point where I feel That Elizabeth deserves a better storyline. I have always hoped that Liz and Jason would finally find at least a season of happiness. I felt for sure that once Jason would finally have his own child
(NOT HIS BROTHERS) he would man-up, but he didn't. It is truly sickening to see how he is so affected by Michaels tragedy and yet he thinks nothing of Jake growing up without his true father. My girl Elizabeth deserves better than returning to Lucky. She deserves a real honest to goodness Man. Jason seems only to care about what self-induced tragedy that has befallen Carly and Sonny.
So to TPTB "Why not just let Jason, Carly and Sonny have a threesome". I have had enough of this predictable merry-go-round. Stop jerking Elizabeth Around!!!!!!!!

First of all, let me say that I do hope for the sake of the Liason fans that they will finally get their couple at some point.

However, they have already lost me. Sorry but this two years of stalling has just been too long in soap time and real time. A year would have been plenty. The outing of Jason as Jake's father at the black and white ball would have been the opportune moment. Perhaps they could have been building viewers all this time with a Liason love story and Jason embracing fatherhood instead of driving them away with more violence.

As others have pointed out, they CAN write this any way they want and I see no reason why these two couldn't have been together by now. I'm sorry to say that at this point, I don't even care.

Wow, I am in total awe of all your insightful opinions!

Thanks so much for all of your responses to my post.

First I want to say to Wish, that I mentioned your name in this thread due to a very encouraging Liason post of yours that I had previously read in another thread. Because of that, I figured you had an extra- heavy duty pair of Liason colored glasses.

Secondly, I just want to clarify that I did not start this thread to debate Liason. I started it to vent all the negative thoughts that were swirling around in my head over the GH writers choices in the direction they were taking my beloved Liason due to their storyline decisions.

In my mind, I see Bob Guza sitting at the head of this huge table surrounded by all his underling writers, laughing maniacally (like I imagine all evil geniuses laugh), with this eerie light shining on him (kinda like that light that was shining on dead Logan),and whenever one of his writers say something like "Mr. Guza, I wrote a lovely scene of Jason finally asking Liz to marry him."

Then Guza laughs and says "Yes, good scene but their marriage will never happen, cause I want Micheal to be shot in the head at the same moment, that should be enough to scare Jason out of wanting to marry Elizabeth, Who does he think he is anyway!!!Hahaha!"

Okay, I admit, I am getting a little carried away, but
it was starting to look as if a pattern was starting to arise here.

It looks as if the writers are bringing up every dream that we have for Liason, their eventual marriage, their trip to Italy, Jakes parentage being outted, and Liason spending some quality time in the bedroom loving each other up

and then countering it on every side by also choosing to script a huge interruption stemming directly from Jason's lifestyle at the same time.

I asked in this thread if anybody else thought or felt the same way as I did. Thats all.

I totally welcome all your differing opinions and thoughts, no debate or argument or bashing was intended and if I offended anyone, I am truly sorry, because that was never my intent.