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Is Liason being methodically destroyed?

Started by stormy1000 at 2008/10/02 12:02PM
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#1   2008/10/02 12:02PM
Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
stormy1000
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It is no secret to us who have loved Elizabeth's and Jason's story for years, that TPTB don't like them as a couple and that Bob Guza, who once liked them as a couple, is no longer interested in writing a viable lovestory for them.

Those of us who have kept up with the backstage politics that has been raging over Liason, know that the recent halt to Liason's story was only turned around because of the huge backlash from Liason lovers in the form of over 3000 calls and letters to TPTB at ABC.

Now, after watching Jason basically crawl out of bed with Liz to wipe Carly's tears over her latest self-caused disaster,

watching Jason leave the mother of his child anxiously waiting for him at the airport while he did his usual job of being Sonny's whipping boy and servant,

watching Jason try to shove down Liz's throat that she is gonna end up shot to death if she stays with him,

and watching Jason drop everything and run off and leave Liz at the hospital because Carly summoned him,

I ask myself this question: Are the writers writing Liason this way to force us to turn away from them?

To divide Liason fans against themselves? Into Liz supporters who want Liz to dump Jason and into Jason supporters who want to see Jason with a woman firmly entrenched in his moblife.

To cause us to give up the hope that we have been holding on to for this couple to have some happiness together as a family?

The writers have the power to twist and turn, with the stroke of their pen, Liason's story any way they want to. They can write moblife as dangerous as they want or as safe as they want.

They can write a wonderfully romantic story for Elizabeth and Jason or they can write the stuff that we have watched playing on our screens since Jason asked Liz to marry him and then broke up with her hours later.

Are the writers taking every single dream that we have had for Liason and deliberately destroying them one by one?

We want them married, Micheal gets shot and now they both have decided that they have no future together.

The trip to Italy was like a sacred dream we all had for Jason and Elizabeth, the writers managed to create a scenario to crash and burn that dream for us.

What's next? Are they gonna burn Liz's studio down? Send that up in ashes? They have already effectively given Jake to Lucky.
Liz just stated the other day, that Jason would never ever be around Cake.

Are the writers systematically writing a story that will eventually make us, as fans, give up on Liason?

Accept that it really IS too dangerous for them to be together, that Sonny and Carly will always be Jason's first and only love, and that it is a good thing for Lucky to raise Jason's only son to a grown man?

Are they forcing us to turn away from Liason first, to keep themselves out of the hotseat when they decide to shut Liason down again?

Sorry about the long post, but I am so disappointed and angry at how TPTB have chosen to write Liason's story.

I am starting to feel like such a sucker and a fool for believing that GH would ever honor our loyalty as fans of their show and this couple by writing a story that we could cherish.

Am I the only one asking these questions or feeling this way?

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#2   2008/10/02 12:14PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
onlygh
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Great post Stormy! ITA with you. I'd like to add one thing. Clearly, Jason is written as a hero on the show and has been for sometime. Much of the action on a day-to-day basis focuses on him. He has grown into a character others come to for advice and counsel. Yes, he is a criminal but his character's face to the audience is one of quiet strength and determination. With the crummy way Liason is being written (especially for the last several months), my fear is that Super Jase will start to be perceived as a dead-beat dad and worse. We see him offering no financial or other support to Liz or her children (not that she would accept it). We haven't even seen him in the same vicinity as his children in quite some time. I just can't stand to see this negative perception overtake the character whose traits most of us have come to love.

#3   2008/10/02 12:19PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
genhospchat
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There's not much I could add to this AMAZING post Stormy but to say no, you're NOT the only one and I too feel that they have COMPLETELY let down the fans who have stuck with this show for MANY years and don't give a damn what we fans think or want! I am COMPLETELY appalled that this show ALWAYS revolves around Sonny and Carly (who aren't even a potential couple) and my faves, Jason and Liz, are always the one's to lose out in the end to them! TPTB will be losing A LOT of viewers (and MANY long time viewers at that), and have NO ONE ELSE to blame but themselves!

#4   2008/10/02 12:20PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
shelrick
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Quote stormy1000:

Are the writers systematically writing a story that will eventually make us, as fans, give up on Liason?



As you probably know, I in fact feel it is the exact opposites. I feel that these are the challenges that Liason faces and that they will overcome them. And hurdle by hurdle they are going to mark them off the list so that once they are together it will take heaven and earth to break them apart.

As you said Guza has been on board with couple and I feel he still is. Also as you stated TPTB did NOT want this couple. So, I feel it is partly Guza using what he can to make this a couple that TPTB can't tear apart without the fans causing a bigger uproar than they are now.

I am hopefully that in the not so distant future that we will see that Liason is a strong couple with one of the most solid foundation ever created in tv history.

#5   2008/10/02 12:44PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
genesis07073
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Quote genhospchat: There's not much I could add to this AMAZING post Stormy but to say no, you're NOT the only one and I too feel that they have COMPLETELY let down the fans who have stuck with this show for MANY years and don't give a damn what we fans think or want! I am COMPLETELY appalled that this show ALWAYS revolves around Sonny and Carly (who aren't even a potential couple) and my faves, Jason and Liz, are always the one's to lose out in the end to them! TPTB will be losing A LOT of viewers (and MANY long time viewers at that), and have NO ONE ELSE to blame but themselves!


ITA...the writers will probably pair Liz and Jason on September 30, 2009...one day before SB's contract is up and kill him off Oct. 1, 2009

#6   2008/10/02 02:31PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
frenchgirl
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I have been feeling the same way Stormy for quite sometime now. Liason has been written into a corner in which there is no way these two could really be together. As cardgirl said in another thread Skate is being used as an example as to what would result if Liason come out in the open with their relationship.

Lucky continues to act as the father for both boys - to my disappointment - even Sam is part of the happy family...I won't even touch that one Jason has no relationship with the boys...and the shootings have only solidified the fact to him that it is too big of a risk to be in their lives.

Like you said tptb could have written these two living a happy life as a family together a long time ago...it shouldn't have taken them this long to put them together if that is their intention. Look at how many couples have been put toegether in such a short time.

#7   2008/10/02 02:37PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
House Calls
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I'm a Chicago sports fan, so I'm used to being disappointed.
I gave up on Liason already. I love them together, but every time it looks like they are finally going to get together, something happens and they don't. It's VERY frustrating!

#8   2008/10/02 02:49PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
stormy1000
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Quote genesis07073:
Quote genhospchat: There's not much I could add to this AMAZING post Stormy but to say no, you're NOT the only one and I too feel that they have COMPLETELY let down the fans who have stuck with this show for MANY years and don't give a damn what we fans think or want! I am COMPLETELY appalled that this show ALWAYS revolves around Sonny and Carly (who aren't even a potential couple) and my faves, Jason and Liz, are always the one's to lose out in the end to them! TPTB will be losing A LOT of viewers (and MANY long time viewers at that), and have NO ONE ELSE to blame but themselves!


ITA...the writers will probably pair Liz and Jason on September 30, 2009...one day before SB's contract is up and kill him off Oct. 1, 2009


That would be extremely unfortunate if the writers did that.
Gh would gain so much more by writing a temporary real truce in the mob violence.

Real enough to put everyone at ease so that Jason ,Liz and Cake can be together for awhile as a real functioning family until the next sweeps.

I don't understand why GH does not seem to value our investment in Liason's story.

It is absolutely necessary for the viewers to be invested in a couple and a storyline in order for it to be successful enough to translate into ratings points.

Our investment in Liason certainly does transfer into ratings point because it has been proven that there have been increases in GH's ratings during times when Liason have been featured.

So I am puzzled as to why the writers won't put them together, happy. Instead of every interaction between them has to always have Jason spouting the tired, tired, worn out, done to death "I am too dangerous to be around" speech.

Too bad love does not conquer all on General Hospital.
Too bad that evil overpowering good seems to be the message these days.

#9   2008/10/02 03:28PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
lovelyliz
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Quote stormy1000: It is no secret to us who have loved Elizabeth's and Jason's story for years, that TPTB don't like them as a couple and that Bob Guza, who once liked them as a couple, is no longer interested in writing a viable lovestory for them.

Those of us who have kept up with the backstage politics that has been raging over Liason, know that the recent halt to Liason's story was only turned around because of the huge backlash from Liason lovers in the form of over 3000 calls and letters to TPTB at ABC.

Now, after watching Jason basically crawl out of bed with Liz to wipe Carly's tears over her latest self-caused disaster,

watching Jason leave the mother of his child anxiously waiting for him at the airport while he did his usual job of being Sonny's whipping boy and servant,

watching Jason try to shove down Liz's throat that she is gonna end up shot to death if she stays with him,

and watching Jason drop everything and run off and leave Liz at the hospital because Carly summoned him,

I ask myself this question: Are the writers writing Liason this way to force us to turn away from them?

To divide Liason fans against themselves? Into Liz supporters who want Liz to dump Jason and into Jason supporters who want to see Jason with a woman firmly entrenched in his moblife.

To cause us to give up the hope that we have been holding on to for this couple to have some happiness together as a family?

The writers have the power to twist and turn, with the stroke of their pen, Liason's story any way they want to. They can write moblife as dangerous as they want or as safe as they want.

They can write a wonderfully romantic story for Elizabeth and Jason or they can write the stuff that we have watched playing on our screens since Jason asked Liz to marry him and then broke up with her hours later.

Are the writers taking every single dream that we have had for Liason and deliberately destroying them one by one?

We want them married, Micheal gets shot and now they both have decided that they have no future together.

The trip to Italy was like a sacred dream we all had for Jason and Elizabeth, the writers managed to create a scenario to crash and burn that dream for us.

What's next? Are they gonna burn Liz's studio down? Send that up in ashes? They have already effectively given Jake to Lucky.
Liz just stated the other day, that Jason would never ever be around Cake.

Are the writers systematically writing a story that will eventually make us, as fans, give up on Liason?

Accept that it really IS too dangerous for them to be together, that Sonny and Carly with always be Jason's first and only love, and that it is a good thing for Lucky to raise Jason's only son to a grown man?

Are they forcing us to turn away from Liason first, to keep themselves out of the hotseat when they decide to shut Liason down again?

Sorry about the long post, but I am so disappointed and angry at how TPTB have chosen to write Liason's story.

I am starting to feel like such a sucker and a fool for believing that GH would ever honor our loyalty as fans of their show and this couple by writing a story that we could cherish.

Am I the only one asking these questions or feeling this way?


I agree with everything you said. They have destroyed most of Liason fans when Jason and Liz had a scene and the show was over GH2 board use to be lit up now i don't see it any more they have drove a lot of Liason fans away only the die-hard was are still holding on to hope that someday they will be together and a lot fans don't even watch Gh anymore not unless Jason and Liz are together in a scene.

I do believe they are forcing us to turn away from them in a very sneaky way they are very sneaky don't trust them when it comes to Liason. A lot of fans has just given up because they don't think it will ever happen for them. Whats the old saying fool me once but fool me twice shame on me thats the way i feel they have fooled me twice never no more.

Since I'am a Liz fan first what I'm concern about is Elizabeth Webber character since she has taken up with Jason her character has not had much air time, no s/l and all these newbies have more air time than her.

There ratings has decline in part because they have lost some fans of Liason and the s/l just not good anymore. When Liason started on this journey rediscovering each other i could not wait to get home to watch but now i don't even care because Jason is saying the same thing over and over again his life is too dangereous. I think its unfair for Elizabeth Webber character to take a back seat if they are not together. Give Liz a s/l please and a friend will do. Only what two years ago they discovered each other again in the nop and that produce a son for them i was so happy but it seems like everything went down hill after that somebody needs to tell the writers its getting old his life is too dangereous i don't know how the writers and Jason can justify this when every freaking day he has carly, sonny, olivia, maxie and spin in his face. I'm beginning to think maybe Jason don't care for Liz the way i wish he would like he cares for carly and the rest.

I going to start a thread for Liz because I'm concerned for this character i have loved this character the first time she came on the show I'm not concern for Jason he has millions of friends Liz has no one and it does not look like its going to change for her so frustrated for her character but Liason not that concerned because they either going to get together or not. When he starts to say this they are breaking up. Remember when he kept saying that to sam and courney till eventually they just gave up then he started to have feelings for Liz now hes telling her over and over again its too dangereous maybe the writers are planning on breaking them up it seems like they never had a chance at all now they are breaking them up before it gets started thats was pi** me off about this i would not feel so bad if they would just give them a chance life is full of chances so i think the writers need to give them a chance and if for some reason down the road it does not work out with them at least i can say as a Liason fan that we had our chance but as it stands right now we are not even getting that. I do want Liz to move on if Jason don't want to be bother with her shes still beautiful and available but its no single men in Port Charles somebody tell why do lucky and sam get to be happy and Liz don't makes no sense to me atl all. If Jason say this is it with them well i hope Liz go out and have a good time and Jason see it and see what he gave up. If the writers go there with Jason and someone else i don't know how they can justify that since he can't be with Liz I'm hating spin lately because he seems to want Jason with someone else as soon as any woman come in Jason face he want to put her in Jason orbit. Sorry for my long post. Luv Liz.

I wanted to say nice Post.

#10   2008/10/02 04:19PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
joe2811
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ah ha! Here is the thread I've been looking for!

I must have just been in the wrong thread....finally folks are feeling what I've been trying to say for several weeks!

I love Jason and Elizabeth and want a super soapy couple to gush over, but come on!? Really, they could have been together months/years ago.

What was the point of the invitation to Italy, or the engagement? Just to rip it away? Are these evil writers sitting at their desks laughing at the fans? It is a cruel joke! This has gone way, way beyond soapy angst. Angst is NOT "Will you marry me?" "Never mind, Michael was shot today"
or, "Let's go to Italy together" "whoops, nevermind again, Kate was shot"

ug, I didn't even watch yet today, but it seems as if there is even more reason to hate on these foolish writers.

Liason is coming? Yeah, and then in 2 days it will be gone again....dumb, dumb writing!!!!!!

phew....I feel much better now....going to go watch some youtube of Jason and Elizabeth when they were fun to watch!

#11   2008/10/02 04:31PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
esprit
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Stormy ... u know i luv ya! And I always LOVE your insights on GH. While I agree with everyone's frustrations... I gotta say I am with Shel & Wish on this one... they are basically dealing with all the scenarios that could happen to Liason before actually putting them together officially.

#12   2008/10/02 05:25PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
liz-fan
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Part of me still hopes for Wishing, Shel, and Espirt is right. However I really feel that tptb are trying to destory them systematicly! They know that they have went where Liz and Jason can't just end or they will have many fans walk. So they are trying to push them to move on.

I have moved on. I don't watch anymore i'll catch the scenes if they are on YT and if they are not movement i don't bother.

#13   2008/10/02 06:36PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
lovelyliz
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Quote liz-fan: Part of me still hopes for Wishing, Shel, and Espirt is right. However I really feel that tptb are trying to destory them systematicly! They know that they have went where Liz and Jason can't just end or they will have many fans walk. So they are trying to push them to move on.

I have moved on. I don't watch anymore i'll catch the scenes if they are on YT and if they are not movement i don't bother.


I need to do like you and not watch anymore i really don't not unless Liz is on or Liason other than that i don't. I didn't like the way Jason took Liz to kate room and said what he said in front of sonny and olivia. As a Liz i don't want her with anyone that don't want her. I just want to see Liz happy and the writers to write for her. Shes a paid actress she should not have to be seen only with jason or lucky & in the hospital show her having fun going to Jakes or something boy i miss the old days when she would just be sitting on the dock, at kellys or jakes and having some fun what happen to that Gh don't show the docks no more or kellys. Don't like the way they are doing things only concentrating on the mob and a few other characters and not Liz at all like no one has a life outside of the mob. I'm going to complain as long as Liz is on the show for her to have a s/l. When sweeps come and Liz is not part it this is one less viewer they will have. GO LIZ!

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#14   2008/10/02 07:00PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
lady red
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Good Evening...Jason and Liz are the hottest couple of GH and they boost ratings; but, I am dissapointed with the lack of progress this couple has had with their relationship and/or story line. What's frustrating to me is that this is the HOTTEST couple, but they absolutely have no love life...they are not even starting a love life...when they get close to it, they lose time they could have b/c something or someone always gets in the way. GH needs to return to some of the old ways of back in the day...GH use to have hot couples with "love in the afternoon"...but, the couples that are the dullest and most boring are the ones GH is attempting to keep together. Liason is being teased.....I desire this to stop! If they are going to be together, I would like to see more of these two moving toward being together and less interference from others and happenings.....if they are going to marry; bring it on! That's what I am waiting for...and, if sadly the couple will not marry or at least be together, just end Liason and stop leading the fans on! I still have hope but, it's very frustrating to see this couple continously being put on the back burner with their relationship!

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#15   2008/10/02 07:09PM
Re: Is Liason being methodically destroyed?
stormy1000
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Quote esprit: Stormy ... u know i luv ya! And I always LOVE your insights on GH. While I agree with everyone's frustrations... I gotta say I am with Shel & Wish on this one... they are basically dealing with all the scenarios that could happen to Liason before actually putting them together officially.


Esprit,Shel and Wish,

Can I please have a pair of those Liason Colored glasses you all are wearing? I dropped and broke mine when Jason left a vapor trail getting outta bed with Liz to listen to Carly whine.

And I "accidently" stepped on them when Jason "forgot" Liz at the airport to go get yelled at and and called a traitor by Sonny at the hospital.

It does not follow any sort of logic, when Jason has two young people, one who happens to be the Police Commishes daughter, living in his PH, being at his office, Carly comes and goes from his PH and Office, but it is too dangerous to be breathing the same air as Elizabeth.

They write what they want to write to fit whatever they need it to fit at the time, whether it makes sense or not. Just like they wrote that mysterious illness that trapped Jason and Spin in the PH together.

They could just as easily write a story that traps Jason and Elizabeth together for a week or two.

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