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Tracy is a B!tch!
Started by johnnyhearsLulu at 2008/09/29 01:45PMLatest post: 2008/09/30 12:58PM, Views: 630, Replies: 68
#21
2008/09/29 07:17PM
Re: Tracy is a B!tch!
BNH444 |
Quote meowbowow: Quote BNH444 I didn't think that it was so great when Tracy talked about Laura like that. I mean Luke would of been majorly peeved if he would of saw her talking like that. Not to mention Luke would of been horrified to learn that his wifey told Lulu that she would reserve a spot next to Laura in SB for Lulu before all of this happened. IMO it is those people like Tracy that is to blame for Lulu being in the situation that she is...it is because of those seeds of doubt that she is doubting herself. Tracy wasn't that bad to Laura IMO, she could have been much worse. She was trying to get it into Johnny's head what could happen to LuLu if he keeps on w/her. I don't think Luke would be horrified, he would have been happy to learn that Tracy cared enough about LuLu to try and help. The only one that is to blame for LuLu being in the situation that she is is LuLu and the choices she makes, nobody else. I thought she was pretty bad to Laura. I was wanting Laura to sit up and stand up and shut Tracy up. I think Luke would be terrribly disappointed in many people especially Tracy. Not only for basically calling Laura a vegetable but for telling Lulu she reserved a spot next to Laura at SB...that is plain Dead wrong, no way to spin it. Yes, Lulu didn't confess, she was convinced otherwise. But she wouldn't be at SB IMO if people hadn't of planted in her head that she is just like Laura. If someone keeps telling me my skin is green, I am eventually going to believe it. It is common sense to think that after someone is told something over and over agian that they will begin to believe it. |
#22
2008/09/29 07:18PM
Re: Tracy is a B!tch!
meowbowow |
Quote cardinalgirl: Quote meowbowow: Quote JesalynlovesGH: Tracy was out of line today. She has no idea why Lulu is in Shady Brook and insulted Laura in front of Johnny. While I think Tracy's heart is in the right place with Lulu, she always goes about things in the wrong way. Where is Alan when you need him?  Or Luke for that matter? Alan is only around when he thinks Tracy needed him so I guess he didn't think so today. Personally I think she did a great thing. Meow....HI! **waving** I just wanted to say that while I respect your opinion, I couldn't disagree with you more. IMHO, I think she was completely out of line in more ways than one. Even if she did think what she was saying was true (that Laura couldn't hear her or respond) what she said about Laura was about as respectful as a schoolkid pointing, laughing or making fun of someone with MD. I would have punished my child severly if they made a comment like that, and she's an adult so that makes it 10 times worse. Lulu was calm, level headed and acting just fine when she got back to SB and was with Johnny. But if you tell someone long enough that they are stupid, they start to believe it. If you tell someone long enough they are ugly...they feel ugly. If you keep telling someone they are going crazy, they feel it must be true. Waving back!! Yes LuLu was calm when she got back and that is the key, she had to go back in order to be calm again. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one tho b/c I don't think Tracy was being disrespectful, just trying to prove a point. If Laura could hear her stay it then that would be terrible. LuLu admits to needing help and agreeing to follow the SB program right? |
#23
2008/09/29 07:20PM
Re: Tracy is a B!tch!
Charlchris48 |
I would love for Laura to have been playing oppossum and be somewhat conscious when they came in. When Laura wakes up, I would love for her to confront Tracy and give it to her good and then tell her something like "How dead does that feel?" I would LMAO!!!! Maybe Laura would be somewhat flattered that Johnny defended her and take a quick liking to him. I am looking forward to the Luke/Laura/Scotty/Tracy storyline that will be coming up soon. |
#24
2008/09/29 07:21PM
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meowbowow |
Quote Charlchris48: First of all, I am going to defend one of my fave characters by saying that Lulu's meltdown reaction is due to her guilt in killing Logan. In her mind, she still is haunted by what she did and seeing the blood triggered it off. I do think she overcame it very well. Johnny was there to support her and she was alot better afterwards. He calmed her down. That is why in this part he is good for her. But he has had the worst luck in making decisions. Like he did with Logan's murder and when he decided to take her. I do have to say her screaming is getting on my nerves but I think it is part of her storyline. I believe they want to take her mental stability to the lowest they can only to bring it back better and stronger than it has been before. I think we will see Lulu stronger after this SB crapfest is over. I am looking forward to seeing a kicka$$, Screw you Lulu back after making her as fragile as they have. What Tracy did to Johnny is part of the process of taking Lulu to that point so I can't be that mad at her. Being a die hard Laura fan, I think the "living dead" comment was a little harsh but everything else was not. I think she loves Lulu and is not as graceful or tactful on how she shows it. If if was Laura doing the same, she wouldn't be as harsh but more motherly. Tracy is not known for her motherly ways!  Well I had forgotten about the living dead comment which u r right was harsh but again she was only trying to make a point to Johnny. And yes, her screaming worked my last nerve today!! I hope u r right about LuLu finally becoming a strong person b/c I am sure sick of this one, altho I've never really been a fan of hers to begin with. |
#25
2008/09/29 07:23PM
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BNH444 |
It may just be me but I would of reacted the same way Lulu did at the wedding. I mean she just did kill a guy and she was locked up in SB for weeks...then the first thing she sees when she gets out is Kate getting shot, come on! Her reaction was totally normal. Heck I would of been freaking out minus the whole Logan and SB thing, it isn't everyday that your boss gets shot at her wedding. |
#26
2008/09/29 07:26PM
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meowbowow |
Quote BNH444 I thought she was pretty bad to Laura. I was wanting Laura to sit up and stand up and shut Tracy up. I think Luke would be terrribly disappointed in many people especially Tracy. Not only for basically calling Laura a vegetable but for telling Lulu she reserved a spot next to Laura at SB...that is plain Dead wrong, no way to spin it. Yes, Lulu didn't confess, she was convinced otherwise. But she wouldn't be at SB IMO if people hadn't of planted in her head that she is just like Laura. If someone keeps telling me my skin is green, I am eventually going to believe it. It is common sense to think that after someone is told something over and over agian that they will begin to believe it. We'll just have to agree to disagree about this issue. LuLu should have just followed her heart on telling the truth in the 1st place. I have to credit her for wanting to do that. Leading Logan on was the biggest mistake she ever made as he wouldn't take no for an answer. That's not LuLu's fault but really in her mind she knew what a jerk he was and shouldn't have moved in w/him after only having one date. I think it all went bad from there. I know she's young and makes mistakes but here she is w/Johnny and being involved w/his dangerous family. I know fans love them together but really is that a wise choice? |
#27
2008/09/29 07:31PM
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Charlchris48 |
Quote meowbowow: Quote BNH444 I thought she was pretty bad to Laura. I was wanting Laura to sit up and stand up and shut Tracy up. I think Luke would be terrribly disappointed in many people especially Tracy. Not only for basically calling Laura a vegetable but for telling Lulu she reserved a spot next to Laura at SB...that is plain Dead wrong, no way to spin it. Yes, Lulu didn't confess, she was convinced otherwise. But she wouldn't be at SB IMO if people hadn't of planted in her head that she is just like Laura. If someone keeps telling me my skin is green, I am eventually going to believe it. It is common sense to think that after someone is told something over and over agian that they will begin to believe it. We'll just have to agree to disagree about this issue. LuLu should have just followed her heart on telling the truth in the 1st place. I have to credit her for wanting to do that. Leading Logan on was the biggest mistake she ever made as he wouldn't take no for an answer. That's not LuLu's fault but really in her mind she knew what a jerk he was and shouldn't have moved in w/him after only having one date. I think it all went bad from there. I know she's young and makes mistakes but here she is w/Johnny and being involved w/his dangerous family. I know fans love them together but really is that a wise choice? You gotta remember this is a soap. Not to be condensending but look who you are supporting. Liason's story is very similar. The difference is that Liz has small children involved and that is worse. I think people can say the same thing for her if it is wise for her to be pursuing Jason when his life is just as dangerous and it would not be safe for her kids. But it is a soap and we all love to see good soapy love stories. 
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#28
2008/09/29 07:34PM
Re: Tracy is a B!tch!
cardinalgirl |
Quote meowbowow: Quote cardinalgirl: Quote meowbowow: Quote JesalynlovesGH: Tracy was out of line today. She has no idea why Lulu is in Shady Brook and insulted Laura in front of Johnny. While I think Tracy's heart is in the right place with Lulu, she always goes about things in the wrong way. Where is Alan when you need him? Or Luke for that matter? Alan is only around when he thinks Tracy needed him so I guess he didn't think so today. Personally I think she did a great thing. Meow....HI! **waving** I just wanted to say that while I respect your opinion, I couldn't disagree with you more. IMHO, I think she was completely out of line in more ways than one. Even if she did think what she was saying was true (that Laura couldn't hear her or respond) what she said about Laura was about as respectful as a schoolkid pointing, laughing or making fun of someone with MD. I would have punished my child severly if they made a comment like that, and she's an adult so that makes it 10 times worse. Lulu was calm, level headed and acting just fine when she got back to SB and was with Johnny. But if you tell someone long enough that they are stupid, they start to believe it. If you tell someone long enough they are ugly...they feel ugly. If you keep telling someone they are going crazy, they feel it must be true. Waving back!! Yes LuLu was calm when she got back and that is the key, she had to go back in order to be calm again. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one tho b/c I don't think Tracy was being disrespectful, just trying to prove a point. If Laura could hear her stay it then that would be terrible. LuLu admits to needing help and agreeing to follow the SB program right? I always enjoy posting and discussing things with you Meow! We usually have such opposing viewpoints, yet manage to listen to and address each others views! I love that!  Yes, I agree that she admits to needing help and following the SB program, but that doesn't (and shouldn't) include having to exclude Johnny from her life. I think if Lainey knew the TRUE events as they happened, she may feel differently. After all...she is suppose to help her DEAL with the trauma, not try to seclude her or isolate her from people in her life. Besides, wouldn't she be better served helping Lulu learn HOW to handle danger and less than pleasant situations, then trying to keep her from them? Shielding her is only putting a bandaid on the problem, not fixing it. If you buy into the argument that Lulu is FRAGILE and has to be protected...then the next "tramatic" event in her life (and make no mistake...there WILL be many more) could send her "over the edge" once again. How is that helpful? |
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2008/09/29 07:35PM
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meowbowow |
Quote Charlchris48 You gotta remember this is a soap. Not to be condensending but look who you are supporting. Liason's story is very similar. The difference is that Liz has small children involved and that is worse. I think people can say the same thing for her if it is wise for her to be pursuing Jason when his life is just as dangerous and it would not be safe for her kids. But it is a soap and we all love to see good soapy love stories. I know what u r saying but there's a big difference btwn the two. Jason is a hitman and has been keeping Sonny and his family safe for yrs. Johnny's father is a crazy, dangerous lunatic who harms women/children, that is a known fact. Jason has the experience to keep a family safe, Johnny doesn't. Plus Jason doesn't have a lunatic father either to worry about. Yep, we all love a good soapy story, lol. |
#30
2008/09/29 07:37PM
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Now, I do not really like Tracy, but I do not thinks she was wrong today to show Johnny what he may be dealing with if he does not allow Lulu to get the help she needs. Tracy was not disrespectful of Laura, she only said the name of her illness and why and how she got that way. She also did not say anything that is not true, Laura cannot hear or respond to anything that is going on. Lulu imagined her awake and whether she is going to really wake up remains to be seen. |
#31
2008/09/29 07:42PM
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meowbowow |
Quote cardinalgirl I always enjoy posting and discussing things with you Meow! We usually have such opposing viewpoints, yet manage to listen to and address each others views! I love that! Yes, I agree that she admits to needing help and following the SB program, but that doesn't (and shouldn't) include having to exclude Johnny from her life. I think if Lainey knew the TRUE events as they happened, she may feel differently. After all...she is suppose to help her DEAL with the trauma, not try to seclude her or isolate her from people in her life. Besides, wouldn't she be better served helping Lulu learn HOW to handle danger and less than pleasant situations, then trying to keep her from them? Shielding her is only putting a bandaid on the problem, not fixing it. If you buy into the argument that Lulu is FRAGILE and has to be protected...then the next "tramatic" event in her life (and make no mistake...there WILL be many more) could send her "over the edge" once again. How is that helpful? Hi cardinalgirl, yes it is good that altho we usually have opposing positions we can be respectful of each other's views!! This is unlike w/yr twin who I mostly always agree with, LOL. j/k I see what u r saying about Lainey teaching LuLu how to deal w/dangerous situations she also knows how dangerous the Z family is. AZ is not yr run-of-the-mill daddy-o, he's a dangerous psycho who will do anything and everything to protect what is his and that would include having LuLu killed if he wanted to. Johnny knows this about him too. How is that keeping LuLu safe? Just giving u food for thot, lol. |
#32
2008/09/29 07:46PM
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meowbowow |
Quote cardgirl: Now, I do not really like Tracy, but I do not thinks she was wrong today to show Johnny what he may be dealing with if he does not allow Lulu to get the help she needs. Tracy was not disrespectful of Laura, she only said the name of her illness and why and how she got that way. She also did not say anything that is not true, Laura cannot hear or respond to anything that is going on. Lulu imagined her awake and whether she is going to really wake up remains to be seen. The truth is that Lulu was traumatized by what happened with Logan and then having to keep that a secret. Johnny staying around and not encouraging Lulu to tell the truth, is not helpful. Also, in Tracy's head and from what she has seen, Johnny is dangerous. Luke may have handled it differently, but I am sure the message would have been the same. The fact that Tracy has visions of Alan is realy not realavent to this situation. She knows she sees Alan, she does not deny that. Lulu on the other hand is in denial, she thinks that now that Johnny is free, she is fine. She still does not get that everyone thinks she is in SB because of Johnny being on trial. She does not even realize that she is ill because she is lying to herslef about Logan. She should just tell the truth, and say she killed Logan by accident and all of this could be over. If Johnny is not gonna allow her to do that, then he is not helping her, and he should stay away. He will never be part of the solution as long as he stays part of the problem. Taking Lulu out of Shadybrook was wrong, she was not further traumatized by seeing Kate getting shot. Which is normal, because she is lying about Logan. Ahhhh here u r, the voice of reason. Excellent post, BRAVO!! This is what I have been trying to say all thru this thread, lol. I was just telling yr twin that we almost always agree on pretty much everything, lol. I knew she was traumatized by Kate getting shot b/c the minute it happened she was like take me back, take me back, and having that meltdown I keep mentioning. |
#33
2008/09/29 07:50PM
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Quote meowbowow: Quote Charlchris48 You gotta remember this is a soap. Not to be condensending but look who you are supporting. Liason's story is very similar. The difference is that Liz has small children involved and that is worse. I think people can say the same thing for her if it is wise for her to be pursuing Jason when his life is just as dangerous and it would not be safe for her kids. But it is a soap and we all love to see good soapy love stories. I know what u r saying but there's a big difference btwn the two. Jason is a hitman and has been keeping Sonny and his family safe for yrs. Johnny's father is a crazy, dangerous lunatic who harms women/children, that is a known fact. Jason has the experience to keep a family safe, Johnny doesn't. Plus Jason doesn't have a lunatic father either to worry about. Yep, we all love a good soapy story, lol. I think Johnny has done a great job of keeping Lulu safe up to this point. Don't forget even after being mentally unstable, Lulu took Logan down! Not once but twice! Even Maxie couldn't handle Logan cuz he got the best of her and took her down. If it wasn't for Lulu's walk out in the balcony, Logan would have succeeded in getting her. Maybe Lulu needs to be protecting Johnny! Even at her mentally lowest, she still kicks a$$!  BTW, it still isn't any wiser for Liz to be with Jason then Lulu being with Johnny. Sorry but Jason didn't keep Michael safe. Sorry to bring that up. What makes you so sure it can't happen to Cake! 
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#34
2008/09/29 07:55PM
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Quote Meowbowow Hi cardinalgirl, yes it is good that altho we usually have opposing positions we can be respectful of each other's views!! This is unlike w/yr twin who I mostly always agree with, LOL. j/k I see what u r saying about Lainey teaching LuLu how to deal w/dangerous situations she also knows how dangerous the Z family is. AZ is not yr run-of-the-mill daddy-o, he's a dangerous psycho who will do anything and everything to protect what is his and that would include having LuLu killed if he wanted to. Johnny knows this about him too. How is that keeping LuLu safe? Just giving u food for thot, lol. LOL! I know my twin is very special. And like most sisters, we tend to disagree alot (especially about Johnny and Lulu) but I luv her to pieces and will defend her to my death I tell you! Johnny can't control who his family is, but he has always been trying to do his best to keep Lulu safe. Of course it doesn't always work...but neither does it in real life. Besides, with a Cassadine as a brother, a father that has been involved in danger in one form or another his entire life (and thus, by association, so has his family which INCLUDES Lulu), it's not like danger and trouble is a new experiance for her. |
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2008/09/29 07:58PM
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Quote BNH444: It may just be me but I would of reacted the same way Lulu did at the wedding. I mean she just did kill a guy and she was locked up in SB for weeks...then the first thing she sees when she gets out is Kate getting shot, come on! Her reaction was totally normal. Heck I would of been freaking out minus the whole Logan and SB thing, it isn't everyday that your boss gets shot at her wedding. So for Lulu being fresh out of SB a few hours before...I think she handled herself mighty mighty well. ITA BNH! Same here...I would have been a basket case and it would have taken me a LOT longer to calm down than it did her. Excellent point my friend!
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