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Dependency problems
Started by McLovinSam at 2008/08/22 04:51PMLatest post: 2008/08/23 06:16PM, Views: 809, Replies: 105
#51
2008/08/22 08:20PM
Re: Dependency problems
JOHNNYLOVER |
Quote meowbowow: Quote JOHNNYLOVER He is BY LAW her step-cousin. But how? Like I said he's a Q by blood and I'm not sure what u mean by law. They r nowhere near related. There cousins by marriage. When Luke married Tracy(Jasons aunt), Luke became Jasons uncle by marriage. Lulu is Lukes daughter and that is how they are related. They are related becasuse Luke married Tracy. Lulu is related to the Q's by marriage. |
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2008/08/22 08:22PM
#52
2008/08/22 08:23PM
Re: Dependency problems
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JOHNNYLOVER |
Quote meowbowow: Quote JOHNNYLOVER I was just pointing out that he is in fact a family member by law. Lainey said a family memeber could sign her out. What does BY LAW mean? It means that he can legally sign her out of shadybrook. |
#53
2008/08/22 08:24PM
Re: Dependency problems
meowbowow |
Quote JOHNNYLOVER There cousins by marriage. When Luke married Tracy(Jasons aunt), Luke became Jasons uncle by marriage. Lulu is Lukes daughter and that is how they are related. They are related becasuse Luke married Tracy. Lulu is related to the Q's by marriage. Oh OK. I guess I still don't see them as related tho. |
#54
2008/08/22 08:36PM
Re: Dependency problems
Canadiana |
Quote JOHNNYLOVER: Quote meowbowow: Quote JOHNNYLOVER I was just pointing out that he is in fact a family member by law. Lainey said a family memeber could sign her out. What does BY LAW mean? It means that he can legally sign her out of shadybrook. I think this is very doubtful. I'm sure only immediate family can do so. If this were the case, every relative no matter how meagre the connection could take charge of Lulu's care. |
#55
2008/08/22 08:43PM
Re: Dependency problems
Charlchris48 |
I was under the impression that Lulu wanted to say some last words to Johnny before she was afraid of slipping away. To me , Lulu was anxious to say some final words to Johnny whether it was ILY, goodbye, or whatever. It was to see him one last time before she lost it. I don't know if that has to do with dependency or not but if I was in Lulu's shoes I would have said anything to at least have a final word to your loved one. I think anyone in that situation would have. If you knew your time was limited, wouldn't you go see your loved one and have final words with them. Even more Johnny, since he can't just go and visit her anytime being in prison. That is what she was trying to tell Jason and Jason agreed or else he wouldn't have taken her. I can see Lulu somewhat dependent because she is young and this is her first true love. I don't know if Lulu will even have a chance to say to Johnny what she wanted to say because she had the vision. So who knows until Monday the outcome. I think her breakdown on Monday will have to do with the fact that she has a vision and it interferes with what she wanted to tell Johnny and the fact that she won't be able to because she will be taken away from Johnny once again. Yes, she is dependent on Johnny but she also deeply loves him and needs his support. |
#56
2008/08/22 08:52PM
Re: Dependency problems
pegrckr |
Quote meowbowow: Quote pegrckr He most certainly does and should not be allowed in to see Johnny since all he wants to do is attack him. I was glad when Claudia hollered for help b/c he was practically beating up on Johnny. More police brutality. The PCPD really needs to watch that. I was glad to see that also as he was out of line. I realize it's his sister, but he should be sidelined on this one. |
#57
2008/08/22 09:00PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote Canadiana I think this is very doubtful. I'm sure only immediate family can do so. If this were the case, every relative no matter how meagre the connection could take charge of Lulu's care. ITA!! I don't buy Jason being able to sign her out as he is only a distant relative and as I said I don't really consider him a relative at all. At least not one that can sign her out. That would only be Nik, Lucky, Luke and maybe Tracy but I'm not even sure about her. |
#58
2008/08/22 09:06PM
Re: Dependency problems
LadyCass |
Doesn't anyone remember being that young and feeling that way. I do. It's intense and dramatic. It's the first time you feel that way and it's all consuming. Add to that you think you are losing your mind. |
#59
2008/08/22 09:07PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote Charlchris48: I was under the impression that Lulu wanted to say some last words to Johnny before she was afraid of slipping away. To me , Lulu was anxious to say some final words to Johnny whether it was ILY, goodbye, or whatever. It was to see him one last time before she lost it. I don't know if that has to do with dependency or not but if I was in Lulu's shoes I would have said anything to at least have a final word to your loved one. I think anyone in that situation would have. If you knew your time was limited, wouldn't you go see your loved one and have final words with them. Even more Johnny, since he can't just go and visit her anytime being in prison. That is what she was trying to tell Jason and Jason agreed or else he wouldn't have taken her. I can see Lulu somewhat dependent because she is young and this is her first true love. I don't know if Lulu will even have a chance to say to Johnny what she wanted to say because she had the vision. So who knows until Monday the outcome. I think her breakdown on Monday will have to do with the fact that she has a vision and it interferes with what she wanted to tell Johnny and the fact that she won't be able to because she will be taken away from Johnny once again. Yes, she is dependent on Johnny but she also deeply loves him and needs his support. Once she finds out that Laura is there to talk her through this and support her, the more Lulu will be willing to stay put at Shadybrook to get better. IA w/u to some extent but Johnny is the reason she's even there. If she could have confessed, she wouldn't be in this position. Plus btwn Lucky telling her and her telling herself about going crazy like her mother it's bound to happen. If she could learn to think positively about that she would probably get better. Besides the writers have it wrong, Laura's condition IS NOT hereditary!! |
#60
2008/08/22 09:08PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote pegrckr I was glad to see that also as he was out of line. I realize it's his sister, but he should be sidelined on this one. Yes he should. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Johnny b/c of it. Neither should Scott for that matter. |
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2008/08/22 09:09PM
#61
2008/08/22 09:16PM
Re: Dependency problems
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pegrckr |
Quote meowbowow: Quote pegrckr I was glad to see that also as he was out of line. I realize it's his sister, but he should be sidelined on this one. Yes he should. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Johnny b/c of it. Neither should Scott for that matter. Oh definitely Scott should be sidelined that is for sure! |
#62
2008/08/22 09:37PM
Re: Dependency problems
ShadoeCoon |
Quote meowbowow: Quote Canadiana I think this is very doubtful. I'm sure only immediate family can do so. If this were the case, every relative no matter how meagre the connection could take charge of Lulu's care. ITA!! I don't buy Jason being able to sign her out as he is only a distant relative and as I said I don't really consider him a relative at all. At least not one that can sign her out. That would only be Nik, Lucky, Luke and maybe Tracy but I'm not even sure about her.  I thought the staff at Shadybrook were under the impression that Jason was a brother (Lulu lied, big surprise). I remember the one staff memeber speaking to Lucky saying about her brother taking her...Lucky thought Nik but as she went on to say about the motorcycle, Lucky immediately knew it was Jason. Even though the connection is there by marriage, that is not the connection that was used to get her out of Shadybrook....Lying was. Just like Lulu lied to get to speak to Johnny earlier. Lulu definitely knows how to play the men in her life. Lucky is the only one, right now, not buying it. For once he doesn't have his head up his arse. |
#63
2008/08/22 09:45PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Canadiana |
Quote ShadoeCoon: Quote meowbowow: Quote Canadiana I think this is very doubtful. I'm sure only immediate family can do so. If this were the case, every relative no matter how meagre the connection could take charge of Lulu's care. ITA!! I don't buy Jason being able to sign her out as he is only a distant relative and as I said I don't really consider him a relative at all. At least not one that can sign her out. That would only be Nik, Lucky, Luke and maybe Tracy but I'm not even sure about her. I thought the staff at Shadybrook were under the impression that Jason was a brother (Lulu lied, big surprise). I remember the one staff memeber speaking to Lucky saying about her brother taking her...Lucky thought Nik but as she went on to say about the motorcycle, Lucky immediately knew it was Jason. Even though the connection is there by marriage, that is not the connection that was used to get her out of Shadybrook....Lying was. Just like Lulu lied to get to speak to Johnny earlier. Lulu definitely knows how to play the men in her life. Lucky is the only one, right now, not buying it. For once he doesn't have his head up his arse. We weren't talking about the connection they used on the show. Some one brought up that Jason is Lulu's step cousin and we were just discussing how that relationship wouldn't work to get Lulu out. |
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#64
2008/08/22 09:52PM
Re: Dependency problems
NoSoup4you |
Quote joe2811: Quote JOHNNYLOVER: Quote joe2811: Quote JOHNNYLOVER: I think that Jason is her step-cousin by law. So he is family, I don't know why she said he was her brother when she could have said cousin. I do NOT think that she is to dependent on Johnny. She doesn't know who to trust right now and it says something that she trust Johnny and feels safe with him. If you tear them a part then she isn't going to listen to anyone. At least now with Johnny she hears him telling her to listen to the doctors and that she is not going to go crazy like her mother. Which is all Lucky keeps telling her. Lucky IMO just wants to be in control. His way is always the right way. I truly think that Nick/Johnny have her best intrest at heart and are the only ones that support her and understand her enough to listen and not Judge her no matter what. Lucky is very Judgemental. Johnny is what she needs to feel safe. He is very claming (sp) to her. I think that if Johnny is who she feels she needs then let her have him. If Lucky can't handle that, then Lucky should butt out. He's not helping her, he's hurting her. IMO Lucky is part not all, but part of the reason that Lulu is in the state that she is. It doesn't help her to hear that he thinks she is going to go Crazy like there mom ALL THE TIME. I think that if she has to choose a brother to trust while Johnny is in jail then I would go with Nick and totally block everything that Lucky says out. IMO- It is sad that Jason knows Lulu better then Lucky. wait, how is Jason her step-cousin? I think someone here said they didn't like Lulu "pulling the Jake card" actually, I liked that she did that. Jason seemed sensitive to her and was willing to discuss it with Lulu. I loved all of Jason & Lulu's scenes today. But to keep on topic here I do think that Lulu is too dependent on Johnny, but it is good set up for her pending insanity. It seems to fit right now. We shall see how it progresses. Jason Morgan Quartermaine is his full name.. Tracy Quartermain is his aunt (his fathers sister) and Lulu's step mother.  right, I totally forgot that Tracy was in the picture here. I'm aware that Jason is a Quartermaine, I just forgot that Tracy was Lulu's step-mother.....oops. I also didn't watch the other day when the Q's went to Shadybrook. The Q's at Shadybrook was the best scene all week. Believe or not it brought tears to my eyes........ the only thing miss was Alan and the green track suit. |
#65
2008/08/22 09:58PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote ShadoeCoon I thought the staff at Shadybrook were under the impression that Jason was a brother (Lulu lied, big surprise). I remember the one staff memeber speaking to Lucky saying about her brother taking her...Lucky thought Nik but as she went on to say about the motorcycle, Lucky immediately knew it was Jason. Even though the connection is there by marriage, that is not the connection that was used to get her out of Shadybrook....Lying was. Just like Lulu lied to get to speak to Johnny earlier. Lulu definitely knows how to play the men in her life. Lucky is the only one, right now, not buying it. For once he doesn't have his head up his arse. LOL, true about Lucky. She told them he was her brother. It's amazing how she can lie so easily to get what she wants. I am glad somebody is not buying it. Ppl think that Lucky is harsh w/her but he's the only one who sees her for who she really is. |
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