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Dependency problems
Started by McLovinSam at 2008/08/22 04:51PMLatest post: 2008/08/23 06:16PM, Views: 793, Replies: 105
#31
2008/08/22 06:13PM
Re: Dependency problems
meowbowow |
Quote McLovinSam Hey Soup! Things are better...for the most part. Just taking one day at a time. This topic hits a little close to home because I have a family memeber going through some mental health issues. We had him committed and we to get a conservator in place for him and he is slowly getting better. But at first we were all enabling him...we thought if we watched him, if someone was with him, if his wife stayed isntead of divorcing him then he would be ok...but he wasnt. He needs to get better for himself. After he was committed, which only last 72 hours in my state, we had an interventiopn of sorts and explained we would no longer be around him if he didnt get help. Lulu needs to do this for herself and no one else...She needs to have faith that she can do this cause if she already thinks she is going crazy she will. That's exactly what I meant when I said nobody could help LuLu but herself and the dr's, that she needs to get better for herself and NOT for Johnny or anyone else. That is no reason whatsoever to get better. She must do it b/c she wants to so she can live a good life. |
#32
2008/08/22 06:14PM
Re: Dependency problems
dimples2010 |
Quote amosgrace: ok, lucky - though as dumb as a stack of bricks - doesn't deserve all this blame. He is being lied to about a murder...that never should have been covered up in the first place.....b/c all evidence pointed to self-defense. If I thought a sibling was obsessing over a murderer, i can't say i'd be chauffering her to visit him in jail. and i seriously doubt people saying she was gonna end up like her mom if she mingled w/ criminals and murderers and sociopaths was what pushed her over the edge.... i am just annoyed w/ the crappy logan ghost and lulu's crying/screaming face mixed w/ pouting and alternately whining jooohhnnnyyy, lllooogggaaannn. this s/l couldn't end soon enough. one positive - genie's return. yay!   2 funny!
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#33
2008/08/22 06:15PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote joe2811 wait, how is Jason her step-cousin? I think someone here said they didn't like Lulu "pulling the Jake card" actually, I liked that she did that. Jason seemed sensitive to her and was willing to discuss it with Lulu. I loved all of Jason & Lulu's scenes today. But to keep on topic here I do think that Lulu is too dependent on Johnny, but it is good set up for her pending insanity. It seems to fit right now. We shall see how it progresses. I thot that same thing when I read that. I thot HUH?? Jason is in absolutely no way related to LuLu b/c he's a Quartermaine by blood. He's in no way related to the Spencers. He had no business taking her out of there. |
#34
2008/08/22 06:16PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote pegrckr He most certainly does and should not be allowed in to see Johnny since all he wants to do is attack him. I was glad when Claudia hollered for help b/c he was practically beating up on Johnny. More police brutality. The PCPD really needs to watch that. |
#35
2008/08/22 06:16PM
Re: Dependency problems
McLovinSam |
I just wanted to say I love the fact that this s/l will bring Laura back! |
#36
2008/08/22 06:18PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote BNH444: Ha. Silly me, here I was thinking that people are supposed to be dependent on the people they love for support when they have a mental breakdown. Boy, I guess I had that wrong.  Now about Lucky. I personally think that Lucky is partially to blame for the state that Lulu is in. Lucky, Maxie, and Tracy said that Lulu was going to end up like Laura in a rocking chair staring at a wall way before any of this Logan BS went down. It is like if people start telling me that my skin is green, eventually I am going to believe it. The three of them planted those seeds of doubt in Lulu's head and the worst thing she can do is doubt herself...and the worst part is that Lucky is her brother. He isn't supposed to bring up Laura's condition to try to control her,( ex. the shed ) now it has came back to bite him in the butt. In conclusion, I don't think that Lulu is being too dependent on Johnny in the least. Johnny has always been Lulu's "safe place". Johnny is 95% to blame b/c he wouldn't let LuLu confess when she wanted to. Had she been able to she wouldn't be seeing Logan and wouldn't be in Shadybrook so I fail to see how he's her safe place in this situation. |
#37
2008/08/22 06:18PM
Re: Dependency problems
JesalynlovesGH |
Lulu's "dependency" on Johnny as you may call it, is probably a little derivative of the fact he knows the truth about what happened and she feels guilty as to why he is in the situation he is in. It is very easy to make accusations, but I am sure if I were on the verge of a nervous breakdown then I would be reaching out to the person I loved the most too. I think part of healing in any kind of situation involves support. Lulu also seems to be leaning on Nik, since he is supportive of her. Lets not forget her parents are not around, and Lucky is clearly not helping matters. As she stated the other day, Johnny is the first person that has ever put her first. Usually that is one of the people you want in your life when things take a turn for the worse. IMO - there is not a dependency issue here. |
#38
2008/08/22 06:23PM
Re: Dependency problems
BNH444 |
Quote JesalynlovesGH: Lulu's "dependency" on Johnny as you may call it, is probably a little derivative of the fact he knows the truth about what happened and she feels guilty as to why he is in the situation he is in. It is very easy to make accusations, but I am sure if I were on the verge of a nervous breakdown then I would be reaching out to the person I loved the most too. I think part of healing in any kind of situation involves support. Lulu also seems to be leaning on Nik, since he is supportive of her. Lets not forget her parents are not around, and Lucky is clearly not helping matters. As she stated the other day, Johnny is the first person that has ever put her first. Usually that is one of the people you want in your life when things take a turn for the worse. IMO - there is not a dependency issue here. However, I could point out several PC citizens that have a dependency issue way before Lulu and they are out roaming the streets. LOL, so true. I FLOVE ya, mi amiga Well said, well said indeed. 
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#39
2008/08/22 06:24PM
Re: Dependency problems
cardinalgirl |
Quote McLovinSam: I just wanted to say I love the fact that this s/l will bring Laura back! Also I wanted to add that I understand she loves Johnny but I wish she would use her love for Johnny as a lifeline of hope and something to live for and not as a crutch. That is just the way I see, and everyone is entitled to view it different ways. I am not bashing Lulu or Johnny or their love for one another. I know, and that is what I love so much about this board, all of you wonderful ladies on this board that I post with. We all have such different viewpoints, share opinions and views with each other...even gaining a better understanding of the various viewpoints and that we can and do DO this on a consistent basis with each other. We are almost always respectful and understanding of each others viewpoints and truly want to discuss and share these topics with each other instead of attack or disrespect each other. I love this board and the people that post here...I really do! Thanks for another fantastic thought provoking and interesting topic everyone!
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#40
2008/08/22 06:24PM
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meowbowow |
Quote Jmm1 She also saw Logan at Shadybrook...remember Nik was walking towards her room and she was screaming...so it is not only when she is with Johnny Yes she did but how many dozens of times did she see him when she and Johnny were on the run? Way too many to count. She's only seen him a couple of times, maybe once, at Shadybrook. Being w/Johnny isn't healthy if it's going to cause her to see Logan. |
#41
2008/08/22 06:26PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote McLovinSam: Quote BNH444: Ha. Silly me, here I was thinking that people are supposed to be dependent on the people they love for support when they have a mental breakdown. Boy, I guess I had that wrong. In conclusion, I don't think that Lulu is being too dependent on Johnny in the least. Johnny has always been Lulu's "safe place". I agree that when going through hard times we need to lean on our loves ones but she is not just leaning...she is giving up any will to live if Johnny isnt around and that isnt healthy. And it is great that Johnny is lulu's "safe place" but Lulu needs a safe place within herself to be able to get through things. Johnny cant be the only thing. Exactly and he is right now. In fact he's her whole life and that is very wrong. |
#42
2008/08/22 06:28PM
Re: Dependency problems
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meowbowow |
Quote Canadiana Great post McLovin. Imagine what would happen if Johnny does go away to prison; is Lulu just going to give up trying to get better because she can't be with him? I hope not. I can see her doing that if that happens. If she does that she really WILL end up like her mother. She needs to be self-sufficient within herself. |
#43
2008/08/22 06:29PM
Re: Dependency problems
zaria |
Quote cardinalgirl: Quote McLovinSam: I just wanted to say I love the fact that this s/l will bring Laura back! Also I wanted to add that I understand she loves Johnny but I wish she would use her love for Johnny as a lifeline of hope and something to live for and not as a crutch. That is just the way I see, and everyone is entitled to view it different ways. I am not bashing Lulu or Johnny or their love for one another. I know, and that is what I love so much about this board, all of you wonderful ladies on this board that I post with. We all have such different viewpoints, share opinions and views with each other...even gaining a better understanding of the various viewpoints and that we can and do DO this on a consistent basis with each other. We are almost always respectful and understanding of each others viewpoints and truly want to discuss and share these topics with each other instead of attack or disrespect each other. I love this board and the people that post here...I really do! Thanks for another fantastic thought provoking and interesting topic everyone! Hey, Cardinalgirl! It's so great to see you back on the MB! I am glad that you are feeling better. Do not tire yourself out by spending too much time on here though, okay?! You have been missed! |
#44
2008/08/22 06:30PM
Re: Dependency problems
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JesalynlovesGH |
Quote meowbowow: Quote Jmm1 She also saw Logan at Shadybrook...remember Nik was walking towards her room and she was screaming...so it is not only when she is with Johnny Yes she did but how many dozens of times did she see him when she and Johnny were on the run? Way too many to count. She's only seen him a couple of times, maybe once, at Shadybrook. Being w/Johnny isn't healthy if it's going to cause her to see Logan. With that said, there is possibly some sort of psychological reasoning as to why she is seeing Logan more around Johnny than others. Personally I think it is her guilt, and she is feeling guilty for Johnny being in lock-up. I don't think it is unhealthy to see him. This is a battle she needs to face. But she has certainly seen Logan away from Johnny too. I am not a psychologist, but would not call it a dependency by any standards. |
#45
2008/08/22 06:34PM
Re: Dependency problems
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cardinalgirl |
Quote zaria: Quote cardinalgirl: Quote McLovinSam: I just wanted to say I love the fact that this s/l will bring Laura back! Also I wanted to add that I understand she loves Johnny but I wish she would use her love for Johnny as a lifeline of hope and something to live for and not as a crutch. That is just the way I see, and everyone is entitled to view it different ways. I am not bashing Lulu or Johnny or their love for one another. I know, and that is what I love so much about this board, all of you wonderful ladies on this board that I post with. We all have such different viewpoints, share opinions and views with each other...even gaining a better understanding of the various viewpoints and that we can and do DO this on a consistent basis with each other. We are almost always respectful and understanding of each others viewpoints and truly want to discuss and share these topics with each other instead of attack or disrespect each other. I love this board and the people that post here...I really do! Thanks for another fantastic thought provoking and interesting topic everyone! Hey, Cardinalgirl! It's so great to see you back on the MB! I am glad that you are feeling better. Do not tire yourself out by spending too much time on here though, okay?! You have been missed! Awww..thanks Zaria! I missed all of you too. Don't worry Kenn (hubby) won't let me. I am sure he will be taking my lifeline...oops, I mean my laptop away very soon. Heehee. Can you imagine my withdrawal after ZERO computer access for 5 days! YIKES! Besides...when the meds kick in again I will be in zzzzzzzz land for quite awhile! lol |
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