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Dependency problems

Started by McLovinSam at 2008/08/22 04:51PM
Latest post: 2008/08/23 06:16PM, Views: 810, Replies: 105
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#21   2008/08/22 05:58PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote Jmm1:
Quote pegrckr:
Quote meowbowow:
Quote McLovinSam: OK...is it just me or does anyone elde think Lulu's dependency on Johnny is EXTREMELY unhealthy? I understand she is in love but her depending on johnny is out of control. Dependency can range from having dependent behaviors to having an extreme need to be taken care of by another person. This need can become so strong that it results in submissive and clinging behavior. The dependent person may fear being alone or separated. And IMO Lulu needs to get better without Johnny holding her hand.

I know alot of people thought Lucky should have taken her to see Johnny but I would have done the same thing in his shoes.


OMG I thot this same thing yesterday already!! I don't think Jason should have taken her to see him. All week she whined about seeing Johnny but look what happened when she did, she saw Logan again. ITA that LuLu needs to get better w/o Johnny holding her hand.


I agree with you on this one! If she only sees Logan when she's with Johnny, then she doesn't need to be seeing Johnny. All she complains about is her putting him in jail. She will never get better until everyone knows the truth about what happened.


She also saw Logan at Shadybrook...remember Nik was walking towards her room and she was screaming...so it is not only when she is with Johnny


I remember that now, it was when she first got there.

#22   2008/08/22 05:58PM
Re: Dependency problems
McLovinSam
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Quote BNH444: Ha. Silly me, here I was thinking that people are supposed to be dependent on the people they love for support when they have a mental breakdown. Boy, I guess I had that wrong.

In conclusion, I don't think that Lulu is being too dependent on Johnny in the least. Johnny has always been Lulu's "safe place".


I agree that when going through hard times we need to lean on our loves ones but she is not just leaning...she is giving up any will to live if Johnny isnt around and that isnt healthy.

And it is great that Johnny is lulu's "safe place" but Lulu needs a safe place within herself to be able to get through things. Johnny cant be the only thing.

#23   2008/08/22 06:00PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote joe2811:
Quote JOHNNYLOVER: I think that Jason is her step-cousin by law. So he is family, I don't know why she said he was her brother when she could have said cousin. I do NOT think that she is to dependent on Johnny. She doesn't know who to trust right now and it says something that she trust Johnny and feels safe with him. If you tear them a part then she isn't going to listen to anyone. At least now with Johnny she hears him telling her to listen to the doctors and that she is not going to go crazy like her mother. Which is all Lucky keeps telling her. Lucky IMO just wants to be in control. His way is always the right way. I truly think that Nick/Johnny have her best intrest at heart and are the only ones that support her and understand her enough to listen and not Judge her no matter what. Lucky is very Judgemental. Johnny is what she needs to feel safe. He is very claming (sp) to her. I think that if Johnny is who she feels she needs then let her have him. If Lucky can't handle that, then Lucky should butt out. He's not helping her, he's hurting her. IMO Lucky is part not all, but part of the reason that Lulu is in the state that she is. It doesn't help her to hear that he thinks she is going to go Crazy like there mom ALL THE TIME. I think that if she has to choose a brother to trust while Johnny is in jail then I would go with Nick and totally block everything that Lucky says out.


IMO- It is sad that Jason knows Lulu better then Lucky.


wait, how is Jason her step-cousin?

I think someone here said they didn't like Lulu "pulling the Jake card" actually, I liked that she did that. Jason seemed sensitive to her and was willing to discuss it with Lulu. I loved all of Jason & Lulu's scenes today. But to keep on topic here I do think that Lulu is too dependent on Johnny, but it is good set up for her pending insanity. It seems to fit right now. We shall see how it progresses.



Jason Morgan Quartermaine is his full name.. Tracy Quartermain is his aunt (his fathers sister) and Lulu's step mother.

#24   2008/08/22 06:00PM
Re: Dependency problems
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nevermind i already said what I was going to say...sorry it is like double posting

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#25   2008/08/22 06:00PM
Re: Dependency problems
pegrckr
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Quote McLovinSam:
Quote BNH444: Ha. Silly me, here I was thinking that people are supposed to be dependent on the people they love for support when they have a mental breakdown. Boy, I guess I had that wrong.

In conclusion, I don't think that Lulu is being too dependent on Johnny in the least. Johnny has always been Lulu's "safe place".


I agree that when going through hard times we need to lean on our loves ones but she is not just leaning...she is giving up any will to live if Johnny isnt around and that isnt healthy.

And it is great that Johnny is lulu's "safe place" but Lulu needs a safe place within herself to be able to get through things. Johnny cant be the only thing.


Amen! She told Jason today she wanted to see Johnny one more time before she totally loses it. So it's not even trying to find a place within herself!

#26   2008/08/22 06:01PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote McLovinSam:
Quote BNH444: Ha. Silly me, here I was thinking that people are supposed to be dependent on the people they love for support when they have a mental breakdown. Boy, I guess I had that wrong.

In conclusion, I don't think that Lulu is being too dependent on Johnny in the least. Johnny has always been Lulu's "safe place".


I agree that when going through hard times we need to lean on our loves ones but she is not just leaning...she is giving up any will to live if Johnny isnt around and that isnt healthy.

And it is great that Johnny is lulu's "safe place" but Lulu needs a safe place within herself to be able to get through things. Johnny cant be the only thing.


Great post McLovin.

Imagine what would happen if Johnny does go away to prison; is Lulu just going to give up trying to get better because she can't be with him? I hope not.

#27   2008/08/22 06:03PM
Re: Dependency problems
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ok, lucky - though as dumb as a stack of bricks - doesn't deserve all this blame. He is being lied to about a murder...that never should have been covered up in the first place.....b/c all evidence pointed to self-defense. If I thought a sibling was obsessing over a murderer, i can't say i'd be chauffering her to visit him in jail. and i seriously doubt people saying she was gonna end up like her mom if she mingled w/ criminals and murderers and sociopaths was what pushed her over the edge....
i am just annoyed w/ the crappy logan ghost and lulu's crying/screaming face mixed w/ pouting and alternately whining jooohhnnnyyy, lllooogggaaannn.
this s/l couldn't end soon enough.
one positive - genie's return. yay!

#28   2008/08/22 06:03PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote pegrckr: But then why does she still see Logan only when she's with Johnny. If he's her safe place she shouldn't be seeing Logan then...jmo.


IMO I think that because Johnny does make her feel safe is why her mind lets her she Logan. She saw Logan with Nick too and in my opinion Nick is the brother that she is the most close too.

#29   2008/08/22 06:05PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote JOHNNYLOVER:
Quote joe2811:
Quote JOHNNYLOVER: I think that Jason is her step-cousin by law. So he is family, I don't know why she said he was her brother when she could have said cousin. I do NOT think that she is to dependent on Johnny. She doesn't know who to trust right now and it says something that she trust Johnny and feels safe with him. If you tear them a part then she isn't going to listen to anyone. At least now with Johnny she hears him telling her to listen to the doctors and that she is not going to go crazy like her mother. Which is all Lucky keeps telling her. Lucky IMO just wants to be in control. His way is always the right way. I truly think that Nick/Johnny have her best intrest at heart and are the only ones that support her and understand her enough to listen and not Judge her no matter what. Lucky is very Judgemental. Johnny is what she needs to feel safe. He is very claming (sp) to her. I think that if Johnny is who she feels she needs then let her have him. If Lucky can't handle that, then Lucky should butt out. He's not helping her, he's hurting her. IMO Lucky is part not all, but part of the reason that Lulu is in the state that she is. It doesn't help her to hear that he thinks she is going to go Crazy like there mom ALL THE TIME. I think that if she has to choose a brother to trust while Johnny is in jail then I would go with Nick and totally block everything that Lucky says out.


IMO- It is sad that Jason knows Lulu better then Lucky.


wait, how is Jason her step-cousin?

I think someone here said they didn't like Lulu "pulling the Jake card" actually, I liked that she did that. Jason seemed sensitive to her and was willing to discuss it with Lulu. I loved all of Jason & Lulu's scenes today. But to keep on topic here I do think that Lulu is too dependent on Johnny, but it is good set up for her pending insanity. It seems to fit right now. We shall see how it progresses.



Jason Morgan Quartermaine is his full name.. Tracy Quartermain is his aunt (his fathers sister) and Lulu's step mother.


right, I totally forgot that Tracy was in the picture here. I'm aware that Jason is a Quartermaine, I just forgot that Tracy was Lulu's step-mother.....oops. I also didn't watch the other day when the Q's went to Shadybrook.

#30   2008/08/22 06:07PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote pegrckr

I agree with you on this one! If she only sees Logan when she's with Johnny, then she doesn't need to be seeing Johnny. All she complains about is her putting him in jail. She will never get better until everyone knows the truth about what happened.


No she won't and Johnny is in jail b/c of his own making but LuLu is blaming it on herself, hence why she is in Shadybrook. I don't think seeing him is helping the situation at all and IMO she IS too dependent on Johnny.

#31   2008/08/22 06:07PM
Re: Dependency problems
pegrckr
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Quote JOHNNYLOVER:
Quote pegrckr: But then why does she still see Logan only when she's with Johnny. If he's her safe place she shouldn't be seeing Logan then...jmo.


IMO I think that because Johnny does make her feel safe is why her mind lets her she Logan. She saw Logan with Nick too and in my opinion Nick is the brother that she is the most close too.


You could be right who knows.

#32   2008/08/22 06:08PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote McLovinSam:
Quote BNH444: Ha. Silly me, here I was thinking that people are supposed to be dependent on the people they love for support when they have a mental breakdown. Boy, I guess I had that wrong.

In conclusion, I don't think that Lulu is being too dependent on Johnny in the least. Johnny has always been Lulu's "safe place".


I agree that when going through hard times we need to lean on our loves ones but she is not just leaning...she is giving up any will to live if Johnny isnt around and that isnt healthy.

And it is great that Johnny is lulu's "safe place" but Lulu needs a safe place within herself to be able to get through things. Johnny cant be the only thing.


It may not be healthy but in all fairness, she has tons going through her mind and she needs someone to lean on that knows everything that went on that night. She is losing her will to live, as you say, because the man she loves is trapped in prison, quite possibly going to be convicted for a murder she committed. It like she is afraid she is going to lose him forever. We have seen it time and time again on soaps with people losing to the will to live because of the death of their significant other.

As far as the "safe place" goes, I agree that she needs to find the strength in herslef. However, I also believe that Laura will soon be her saving grace in all of this.

The reason, in my opinon, that they are having Lulu have a complete mental breakdown is so that she will totally hit rock bottom....then in with a bang comes Laura.

#33   2008/08/22 06:08PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote joe2811:
Quote JOHNNYLOVER:
Quote joe2811:
Quote JOHNNYLOVER: I think that Jason is her step-cousin by law. So he is family, I don't know why she said he was her brother when she could have said cousin. I do NOT think that she is to dependent on Johnny. She doesn't know who to trust right now and it says something that she trust Johnny and feels safe with him. If you tear them a part then she isn't going to listen to anyone. At least now with Johnny she hears him telling her to listen to the doctors and that she is not going to go crazy like her mother. Which is all Lucky keeps telling her. Lucky IMO just wants to be in control. His way is always the right way. I truly think that Nick/Johnny have her best intrest at heart and are the only ones that support her and understand her enough to listen and not Judge her no matter what. Lucky is very Judgemental. Johnny is what she needs to feel safe. He is very claming (sp) to her. I think that if Johnny is who she feels she needs then let her have him. If Lucky can't handle that, then Lucky should butt out. He's not helping her, he's hurting her. IMO Lucky is part not all, but part of the reason that Lulu is in the state that she is. It doesn't help her to hear that he thinks she is going to go Crazy like there mom ALL THE TIME. I think that if she has to choose a brother to trust while Johnny is in jail then I would go with Nick and totally block everything that Lucky says out.


IMO- It is sad that Jason knows Lulu better then Lucky.


wait, how is Jason her step-cousin?

I think someone here said they didn't like Lulu "pulling the Jake card" actually, I liked that she did that. Jason seemed sensitive to her and was willing to discuss it with Lulu. I loved all of Jason & Lulu's scenes today. But to keep on topic here I do think that Lulu is too dependent on Johnny, but it is good set up for her pending insanity. It seems to fit right now. We shall see how it progresses.



Jason Morgan Quartermaine is his full name.. Tracy Quartermain is his aunt (his fathers sister) and Lulu's step mother.


right, I totally forgot that Tracy was in the picture here. I'm aware that Jason is a Quartermaine, I just forgot that Tracy was Lulu's step-mother.....oops. I also didn't watch the other day when the Q's went to Shadybrook.



No Problem. The day that you are refering to Tracy wasen't there. I think that Edward said she was Looking for Luke.

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#34   2008/08/22 06:09PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote McLovinSam:
I agree that when going through hard times we need to lean on our loves ones but she is not just leaning...she is giving up any will to live if Johnny isnt around and that isnt healthy.

And it is great that Johnny is lulu's "safe place" but Lulu needs a safe place within herself to be able to get through things. Johnny cant be the only thing.


Such a great post, McLovin. Lulu's dependency goes WAY beyond seeing Johnny as her "safe place" at this point.

#35   2008/08/22 06:12PM
Re: Dependency problems
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Quote Canadiana:
Quote McLovinSam:
Quote BNH444: Ha. Silly me, here I was thinking that people are supposed to be dependent on the people they love for support when they have a mental breakdown. Boy, I guess I had that wrong.

In conclusion, I don't think that Lulu is being too dependent on Johnny in the least. Johnny has always been Lulu's "safe place".


I agree that when going through hard times we need to lean on our loves ones but she is not just leaning...she is giving up any will to live if Johnny isnt around and that isnt healthy.

And it is great that Johnny is lulu's "safe place" but Lulu needs a safe place within herself to be able to get through things. Johnny cant be the only thing.


Great post McLovin.

Imagine what would happen if Johnny does go away to prison; is Lulu just going to give up trying to get better because she can't be with him? I hope not.


IA....no one should be 100% dependent on anyone. However, staying AWAY from Johnny like Lucky wants will not make her well either! And being able to see Johnny verses being forced to stay away could be the best thing for her. Only thing for sure is that LUCKY (IMO) is the last one who knows whats best. He can't even make reasonable decisions for himself...much less Lulu.

I think most people agree that Lulu needs help to get past this...and yes, professional help could be the best way. But a LOT of people get professional help to deal with tramatic events...that doesn't make them Crazy and "sitting in a chair facing a wall like our mom" as Lucky so lovingly and caringly pointed out to her **DRIPPING SARCASM** with that Brotherly love and devotion he seems to have for her.

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