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Dependency problems
Started by McLovinSam at 2008/08/22 04:51PMLatest post: 2008/08/23 06:16PM, Views: 795, Replies: 105
McLovinSam |
OK...is it just me or does anyone elde think Lulu's dependency on Johnny is EXTREMELY unhealthy? I understand she is in love but her depending on johnny is out of control. Dependency can range from having dependent behaviors to having an extreme need to be taken care of by another person. This need can become so strong that it results in submissive and clinging behavior. The dependent person may fear being alone or separated. And IMO Lulu needs to get better without Johnny holding her hand. |
Canadiana |
Quote McLovinSam: OK...is it just me or does anyone elde think Lulu's dependency on Johnny is EXTREMELY unhealthy? I understand she is in love but her depending on johnny is out of control. Dependency can range from having dependent behaviors to having an extreme need to be taken care of by another person. This need can become so strong that it results in submissive and clinging behavior. The dependent person may fear being alone or separated. And IMO Lulu needs to get better without Johnny holding her hand. I know alot of people thought Lucky should have taken her to see Johnny but I would have done the same thing in his shoes. I wholeheartedly agree. I don't really like the way Lucky handle her (because I tend to think he's a bit of a bully) but honestly, Lulu saw Johnny not 24 hours earlier and if he's the only one that can save her sanity she's in for a whole heap of trouble. |
zaria |
Quote Canadiana: Quote McLovinSam: OK...is it just me or does anyone elde think Lulu's dependency on Johnny is EXTREMELY unhealthy? I understand she is in love but her depending on johnny is out of control. Dependency can range from having dependent behaviors to having an extreme need to be taken care of by another person. This need can become so strong that it results in submissive and clinging behavior. The dependent person may fear being alone or separated. And IMO Lulu needs to get better without Johnny holding her hand. I know alot of people thought Lucky should have taken her to see Johnny but I would have done the same thing in his shoes. I wholeheartedly agree. I don't really like the way Lucky handle her (because I tend to think he's a bit of a bully) but honestly, Lulu saw Johnny not 24 hours earlier and if he's the only one that can save her sanity she's in for a whole heap of trouble. Ditto everything Canadiana just said! And IA with McLovin, Lucky was right not to take her to Johnny. I was kind of mad at Jason for letting Lulu talk him into doing that for her, it really was not his place. |
cardinalgirl |
Hi Canadiana! |
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Canadiana |
Quote zaria: Quote Canadiana: Quote McLovinSam: OK...is it just me or does anyone elde think Lulu's dependency on Johnny is EXTREMELY unhealthy? I understand she is in love but her depending on johnny is out of control. Dependency can range from having dependent behaviors to having an extreme need to be taken care of by another person. This need can become so strong that it results in submissive and clinging behavior. The dependent person may fear being alone or separated. And IMO Lulu needs to get better without Johnny holding her hand. I know alot of people thought Lucky should have taken her to see Johnny but I would have done the same thing in his shoes. I wholeheartedly agree. I don't really like the way Lucky handle her (because I tend to think he's a bit of a bully) but honestly, Lulu saw Johnny not 24 hours earlier and if he's the only one that can save her sanity she's in for a whole heap of trouble. Ditto everything Canadiana just said! And IA with McLovin, Lucky was right not to take her to Johnny. I was kind of mad at Jason for letting Lulu talk him into doing that for her, it really was not his place. Well Lulu pulled the Elizabeth/Jake card and Jason's very sensitive when it comes to that subject. Really don't like that she did that, though. |
Kelly07 |
I think the same way too, Lulu thinks her only solution is Johnny but it is not, and on the other hand Lucky doesn't know the truth about who killed Logan and he is being only prodective of his little sister so i don't blame him for not taking her to see johnny |
meowbowow |
Quote McLovinSam: OK...is it just me or does anyone elde think Lulu's dependency on Johnny is EXTREMELY unhealthy? I understand she is in love but her depending on johnny is out of control. Dependency can range from having dependent behaviors to having an extreme need to be taken care of by another person. This need can become so strong that it results in submissive and clinging behavior. The dependent person may fear being alone or separated. And IMO Lulu needs to get better without Johnny holding her hand. I know alot of people thought Lucky should have taken her to see Johnny but I would have done the same thing in his shoes. OMG I thot this same thing yesterday already!! I don't think Jason should have taken her to see him. All week she whined about seeing Johnny but look what happened when she did, she saw Logan again. ITA that LuLu needs to get better w/o Johnny holding her hand. |
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meowbowow |
Quote Canadiana I wholeheartedly agree. I don't really like the way Lucky handle her (because I tend to think he's a bit of a bully) but honestly, Lulu saw Johnny not 24 hours earlier and if he's the only one that can save her sanity she's in for a whole heap of trouble. IMO nobody can save anybody else, they have to save themselves. |
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Canadiana |
Quote cardinalgirl: Hi Canadiana! Hi Zaria! Two of my favorite Canadian friends!  I'm sure you know what's coming, but that's what threads are for...right? I understand what you guys are saying, but I disagree (shocker, shocker...I know). I think that Johnny and Lulu are both in the middle of a bad situation right now, and that (true enough) things have not been handled correctly up to this point. There have been numerous bad decisions across the board during this whole situation...but they cannot be undone. Is she leaning on him more than she should be? Some will say yes, others will say no...but either way....forcing them to stay apart is not the answer either (IMHO), not to mention the fact that he doesn't have the right to make that decision just because he wants to. IMO, Lucky is being a bully and self appointed guardian to someone that is NOT underage, is not under his house rules, and is probably the LAST person (aside from maybe Tracy) who has a right to take the holier than thou attitude he has. Lucky does the same thing with everyone in his life. He seems to think he is always right and can enforce rules for everyone that he wants to. Well, with his track record...he is the last person I would listen to. Finally....I personally think that Lucky is PARTIALLY responsible for Lulu being the mess she is anyway...constantly telling her he thinks shes going to end up like their mom. You tell someone long enough that they are Ugly...they start to believe it. You keeps saying someone is stupid, they feel stupid. Same applies here. IMO, of course. Anyway...good to see you guys! TTYL..... Hey cardinalgirl, well I can agree with you about the Lucky situation. As I said in my post, I think he's a bully and really doesn't know how to handle situations except to force his opinion down the person's throat. However, I think everyone including Lulu herself has said that she could become her mother. So they all seem to be driving home this point. It's crazy, IMO: my mother is insane therefore I must be too. It certainly isn't very convincing. Oh, I wanted to add two more things, yes Lulu isn't underage but she is kinda acting like it and two, Lucky and Nik are Lulu's temporary guardians while she's at Shadybrooke. They did mention that she can't leave without their permission. |
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meowbowow |
Quote Canadiana Well Lulu pulled the Elizabeth/Jake card and Jason's very sensitive when it comes to that subject. Really don't like that she did that, though. I was mad at her for that. I thot oh great LuLu, play on Jason's guilt!! |
dimples2010 |
Quote McLovinSam: OK...is it just me or does anyone elde think Lulu's dependency on Johnny is EXTREMELY unhealthy? I understand she is in love but her depending on johnny is out of control. Dependency can range from having dependent behaviors to having an extreme need to be taken care of by another person. This need can become so strong that it results in submissive and clinging behavior. The dependent person may fear being alone or separated. And IMO Lulu needs to get better without Johnny holding her hand. I know alot of people thought Lucky should have taken her to see Johnny but I would have done the same thing in his shoes. ITA Great post. |
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dimples2010 |
Quote Canadiana: Quote zaria: Quote Canadiana: Quote McLovinSam: OK...is it just me or does anyone elde think Lulu's dependency on Johnny is EXTREMELY unhealthy? I understand she is in love but her depending on johnny is out of control. Dependency can range from having dependent behaviors to having an extreme need to be taken care of by another person. This need can become so strong that it results in submissive and clinging behavior. The dependent person may fear being alone or separated. And IMO Lulu needs to get better without Johnny holding her hand. I know alot of people thought Lucky should have taken her to see Johnny but I would have done the same thing in his shoes. I wholeheartedly agree. I don't really like the way Lucky handle her (because I tend to think he's a bit of a bully) but honestly, Lulu saw Johnny not 24 hours earlier and if he's the only one that can save her sanity she's in for a whole heap of trouble. Ditto everything Canadiana just said! And IA with McLovin, Lucky was right not to take her to Johnny. I was kind of mad at Jason for letting Lulu talk him into doing that for her, it really was not his place. Well Lulu pulled the Elizabeth/Jake card and Jason's very sensitive when it comes to that subject. Really don't like that she did that, though. She knows that's his weakness and she played it big time. |
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cardinalgirl |
Quote Kelly07: I think the same way too, Lulu thinks her only solution is Johnny but it is not, and on the other hand Lucky doesn't know the truth about who killed Logan and he is being only prodective of his little sister so i don't blame him for not taking her to see johnny I don't think that would matter....he hates Johnny and nothing (it seems) will change that. I honestly think it has something to do with some held over issues he has because of Elizabeths feelings for Jason. IMO...Lucky has Control issues. |
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dimples2010 |
Quote meowbowow: Quote Canadiana I wholeheartedly agree. I don't really like the way Lucky handle her (because I tend to think he's a bit of a bully) but honestly, Lulu saw Johnny not 24 hours earlier and if he's the only one that can save her sanity she's in for a whole heap of trouble. IMO nobody can save anybody else, they have to save themselves. Sometimes we need help. |
jnlforever |
OMG, all because she wants to see the guy that she loves because she thinks she is going crazy and will never see him again!! |
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