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Let's Talk About Lucky.

Started by LadyCass at 2008/08/19 09:47PM
Latest post: 2008/08/27 06:24AM, Views: 1282, Replies: 139
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#11   2008/08/20 06:35AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
frenchmocha83
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The next day? By the time Lucky arrived to Lulu's side, she had already watched her bf get beaten by his colleagues, been strapped in a straight jacket, been sedated, had 1 therapy session, had seen blue logan, and had been visited by the Q's and Alice.

Lucky is a moron ...especially now that he he is Sam's B****. They need to revoke his Spencer card, because he is not a true Spencer. The speech they gave the Q's about limiting visits to non-family should've been given to Lucky as well.

#12   2008/08/20 08:21AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
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Quote aerinha: I find Lucky very emotionally abusive to Lulu. He doesn't like JOhnny and tries to use Laura's condition to whip her into doing what he wants. Given his own history with drugs and infidelity he is in no position to know best for anyone. I think his issues are more anger over his childhood and his parents' relationship (the rape) and its impact on Laura's condition and he's taking it out (subconsciously) on Lulu. I am so hoping Nik or Lainey tells Lucky part of Lulu's problem is people like him using Laura against her.


I always though Lucky was emotionally abusive to Liz. I didn't think about it with Lulu. But it makes sense.

As far as Lucky having issues because of his childhood and doing things subconsciously.... do you really think the writers are putting that much thought into this character?? Because I don't. If they actually were then it would be great to see a grown man face and deal with these issues. And GV would be great w/ a s/l like that.

JOHNNYLOVER: It also infuriated me when Lucky of all people started threatening Lulu with 'You'll turn out like Mom if you stay with Johnny'. It didn't surprise me when it came from Maxie or even Tracy. But it was horrible coming from Lucky. It was not only horrible to Lulu but to him Mom too.

GEN: I have to word this very carefully. But I am not a LuSam fan either. More because I don't like the performances that come out of the actors when paired together. I feel like their better work comes when they are not working together.

#13   2008/08/20 08:29AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
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Quote LadyCass:
Quote aerinha: I find Lucky very emotionally abusive to Lulu. He doesn't like JOhnny and tries to use Laura's condition to whip her into doing what he wants. Given his own history with drugs and infidelity he is in no position to know best for anyone. I think his issues are more anger over his childhood and his parents' relationship (the rape) and its impact on Laura's condition and he's taking it out (subconsciously) on Lulu. I am so hoping Nik or Lainey tells Lucky part of Lulu's problem is people like him using Laura against her.


I always though Lucky was emotionally abusive to Liz. I didn't think about it with Lulu. But it makes sense.

As far as Lucky having issues because of his childhood and doing things subconsciously.... do you really think the writers are putting that much thought into this character?? Because I don't. If they actually were then it would be great to see a grown man face and deal with these issues. And GV would be great w/ a s/l like that.

JOHNNYLOVER: It also infuriated me when Lucky of all people started threatening Lulu with 'You'll turn out like Mom if you stay with Johnny'. It didn't surprise me when it came from Maxie or even Tracy. But it was horrible coming from Lucky. It was not only horrible to Lulu but to him Mom too.

GEN: I have to word this very carefully. But I am not a LuSam fan either. More because I don't like the performances that come out of the actors when paired together. I feel like their better work comes when they are not working together.


I've said this before, but I would love for someone to turn to Lucky and ask if anyone warned Sam he could turn out like dad and become a rapist. It's the same thing he did to Lulu when he asked Johnny if he knew Laura was in ShadyB.

I think they are putting some thought into Lucky, after all Sam commented he was trying to be a good dad because Luke was such a disaster. Lucky jumped to Luke's defense because he was a good dad to him and didn't say how neglectful Luke was of Lulu. Jason or Nik is Lulu's dad if you ask me.

#14   2008/08/20 08:31AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
Jolufreak08
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Okay I will try to understand where Lucky is coming from I really especially since Lulu never had her parents around and lost alot of time because of that and so Lucky has to act like the surrugate father in a way towards her. I can understand that, but the way he goes about its so condesendingm and controllin person and thats not the way you should be helping someone in dire of need.



I think Lucky should be talking more to her and NOT at her try to see where her head is and her feelings AND then try to help her sort them out. You dont just completely ignore what she feels and wants and try to twist it in a way YOU think will be best for her. Sorry but the way he treats lulu is like he thinks of her a a malfunction machine that constantly gets broken and constantly needs fixing when that i further from the truth.

#15   2008/08/20 08:38AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
LadyCass
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Quote Jolufreak08:
I think Lucky should be talking more to her and NOT at her try to see where her head is and her feelings AND then try to help her sort them out. You dont just completely ignore what she feels and wants and try to twist it in a way YOU think will be best for her. Sorry but the way he treats lulu is like he thinks of her a a malfunction machine that constantly gets broken and constantly needs fixing when that i further from the truth.


What a concept.... listening to someone about how they feel instead of telling them what they should feel. Hmmm.... that's just crazy enough to work!!! lol

#16   2008/08/20 08:45AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
Jolufreak08
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Quote LadyCass:
Quote Jolufreak08:
I think Lucky should be talking more to her and NOT at her try to see where her head is and her feelings AND then try to help her sort them out. You dont just completely ignore what she feels and wants and try to twist it in a way YOU think will be best for her. Sorry but the way he treats lulu is like he thinks of her a a malfunction machine that constantly gets broken and constantly needs fixing when that i further from the truth.


What a concept.... listening to someone about how they feel instead of telling them what they should feel. Hmmm.... that's just crazy enough to work!!! lol



He did it with Liz when she was struggling to want to be with Jason he will talk at her and not how she feels and that has always landed him in more trouble. Sam so far is the only one who ever told him that he was out of line or over stepping

#17   2008/08/20 08:46AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
LadyCass
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So Lucky walks all over Liz and Lulu because they let him? He has more respect for Sam because she demands it?

#18   2008/08/20 08:52AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
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Quote LadyCass: So Lucky walks all over Liz and Lulu because they let him? He has more respect for Sam because she demands it?



No not saying Lulu and Liz allowed it of course, he overcompsensates with them for some some strange reason and with Sam she will tell him to back off he starts treating her like that.

Not trying to compare the two at all cause its different I am saying that this is one character flaw that needs to be fixed in Lucky asap or else well people will continune to always hate that side of him is what i ams aying.

#19   2008/08/20 08:54AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
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Quote LadyCass: So Lucky walks all over Liz and Lulu because they let him? He has more respect for Sam because she demands it?


I think if the writers made Lucky's character consistent, that theory would make sense. But he just seems all over the place. Liz didn't really fight back that much towards the end because she felt guilty about the whole Jason thing, but Lulu usually gives it back to Lucky when he gets all nutso and tries to control her. So I don't know what his deal is.

#20   2008/08/20 08:54AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
LadyCass
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Quote Jolufreak08:

No not saying Lulu and Liz allowed it of course, he over compensates with them for some some strange reason and with Sam she will tell him to back off he starts treating her like that.

Not trying to compare the two at all cause its different I am saying that this is one character flaw that needs to be fixed in Lucky asap or else well people will continue to always hate that side of him is what i am saying.


Sorry if it seemed like I was attacking or coming on strong. I meant it more as this angle could be a good conversation. Not saying you are wrong or anything. Your comments actually got me thinking and wanting to compare the differences and why.

What do you mean by Lucky over compensates with Lulu and Liz?

#21   2008/08/20 08:56AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
LadyCass
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Quote frenchmocha83:
I think if the writers made Lucky's character consistent, that theory would make sense. But he just seems all over the place. Liz didn't really fight back that much towards the end because she felt guilty about the whole Jason thing, but Lulu usually gives it back to Lucky when he gets all nutso and tries to control her. So I don't know what his deal is.


I was thinking that too. Liz allows herself to be a door mat. Lulu does not. So why does he treat these two the same? Does he view Liz as more of a sister? He's playing the big brother role with both?

#22   2008/08/20 09:03AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
frenchmocha83
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Quote LadyCass:
Quote frenchmocha83:
I think if the writers made Lucky's character consistent, that theory would make sense. But he just seems all over the place. Liz didn't really fight back that much towards the end because she felt guilty about the whole Jason thing, but Lulu usually gives it back to Lucky when he gets all nutso and tries to control her. So I don't know what his deal is.


I was thinking that too. Liz allows herself to be a door mat. Lulu does not. So why does he treat these two the same? Does he view Liz as more of a sister? He's playing the big brother role with both?


I think it has more to do with their choices. Liz loved Jason, which Lucky didn't understand. Lulu loves Johnny, which Lucky doesn't understand. Sam, on the other hand, used his hatred of Jason to get him, and in this aspect, Sam thinks like he does. According to her, she was scared of Jason's life and stupid to love him, blah blah blah.

Even though she is tango dancing with the mob now, it's for a good cause. Didn't she say some crap about the little girl that got sick from the fake drugs reminded her about her would-be little girl. Sorry. Didn't mean to call it crap. It just seemed like a lame excuse to get involved. Anyways, this reasoning makes sense to Lucky, so he's going along with it. I bet that if Sam became friends with Sasha and wanted to protect her, Lucky would flip out on her like he does with Liz and Lulu.

Does any of this make sense? I feel like I'm rambling.

#23   2008/08/20 09:08AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
Jolufreak08
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Quote LadyCass:
Quote Jolufreak08:

No not saying Lulu and Liz allowed it of course, he over compensates with them for some some strange reason and with Sam she will tell him to back off he starts treating her like that.

Not trying to compare the two at all cause its different I am saying that this is one character flaw that needs to be fixed in Lucky asap or else well people will continue to always hate that side of him is what i am saying.


Sorry if it seemed like I was attacking or coming on strong. I meant it more as this angle could be a good conversation. Not saying you are wrong or anything. Your comments actually got me thinking and wanting to compare the differences and why.

What do you mean by Lucky over compensates with Lulu and Liz?



When Liz was raped right, Lucky was there to help her, he saved her in a way that brought them together and help Liz become the stronger person in the end and they of course fell in love with each other . But I think back then it was suppose to be a start of Lucky character that he wanted to be the one to save the person that he loved from free falling emotionally and even though he had alot of anger towards Luke about the rape, a part of him felt helpless beecause he wanted to find ways to help Laura, it was in his instinct to be protective , wanting to save the person from themeselves and that to me has always been in character for Lucky even after he was recasted.

So what I mean by overcompensate is that, everything that he saw as a kid, with his mom and Liz his reactions are pretty much the same. Not saying he doesnt have the right to be concern, but he tends to look at things black and white and not with grey areas and thats what I think he is doing wrong with Lulu. He is telling Lulu that he is going to be like her mother if she be with johnny etc because somehow he has this notion in his head that Laura wasnt headstrong or couldnt handle being on the run with Luke etc so in turn that made her go crazy when we all know that is furtherest from the truth. and telling Lulu all his past fears on what he went through with L/L is overcompensating because Lulu shouldnt be compare to Laura, because she has clearly shown that she is headstrong, she is fearless, and that she can get past this if they believe that they can . and Lucky needs to start believing that Lulu isnt going to end up like Laura, and start encourging her to be her own person and not what everyone wants her to be like a laura.

Thats what I mean by overcompeating meaning he is putting his own fears and insecurties out on Lulu when really he should be doing the opposite. does that make sense?

#24   2008/08/20 09:12AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
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I couldn't stand Lucky when he was abusive to Elizabeth. I am actually starting to like him a little now, as well as Sam. ***ducking***

It does feel like the writing for Lucky seems more like an afterthought. Can't you see the writers all sitting around the table saying, okay, what should we do with him now?!

#25   2008/08/20 09:15AM
Re: Let's Talk About Lucky.
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Quote ghfanfare
It does feel like the writing for Lucky seems more like an afterthought. Can't you see the writers all sitting around the table saying, okay, what should we do with him now?!


LMAO.....

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