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Quote young at heart: People complain all the time. If you don't like a show then switch channels or turn off the TV. You can't please people all the time...but do you have to start a war over this SRMILLS. At times I FF a scene, but do not cause a big problem like you have. Goes something like this.........It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. SRMILLS just switch channels and good bye. WOW! That was out of line... SRMILLS didn't start a war, nor did she cause a big problem; but you're well on your way to doing so. People come to these message boards to talk about the show - the good AND the bad of the show. There's nothing wrong with venting. Seriously. I get why she's frustrated. Nobody is saying that ALL military veterans commit atrocities or turn into drug crazed lunatics - she was railing against Guza's propensity to do that to any vet that winds up on canvas. They had three on at one time and soooooo much potential to do right by them - they failed and failed miserably. I hate seeing that as well. They could have honored at least ONE of them by making him an actual hero, but did they? NO! In Guza-world only mobsters get to be heroes. Do you GET where her frustration is coming from? That doesn't mean that everyone who is sick of the mob violence and heroification should or wants to change the channel - there ARE other storylines... granted, not many, but they're there and they are the reason *I* stay with the show. |
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Quote Liz_n_Jason: Quote young at heart: People complain all the time. If you don't like a show then switch channels or turn off the TV. You can't please people all the time...but do you have to start a war over this SRMILLS. At times I FF a scene, but do not cause a big problem like you have. Goes something like this.........It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. SRMILLS just switch channels and good bye. This "so called" advise (to not watch or switch the channel) actually applies to everyone who made the DECISION to come into this thread and make a comment (whatever that comment may be). Anyone of us could have not replied to this thread, however it's our right to do so, as long as we are respectful :eye roll:. People need to take their own advice... Weve all had a rant, complaint, or concern with the direction of the show at one point or another. WORD! |
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First of in the real world every 2.5 seconds a woman in this country is raped. In the military out of the military the fact is the same. Military men are not exempt. The Military takes the allegations of rape very seriously. The post war psychosis is a real problem with this war. It causes these men and woman to do things that they just wouldn't normally do. Believe it or not my son knows the sister of the guy they showed on the news who through that puppy in the dessert. He said he did it cause they were bored and he snapped. Something in his head told him to. He use to be a very sweet and caring guy now hes and angry misguided young man. |
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Seems like you have made me out the bad person. OK we all have our opinions. Shepmajor, it seems like I possibly offended you, if so I didn't mean to. General Hospital is a soap opera, and for our entertainment. Some people just take it all to heart. I watch alot of shows and many times I use the fast forward button, even in a movie. Today, after months, I decide to post and I made out the bad guy. Guess I will just read the MB for awhile. |
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Quote shepmajor: Quote meowbowow: Quote shepmajor Och! Meow!!!!! Tell me you haven't gone over to the dark side and are now communicating in text speak?!!!! Come back to the light, Meow... come back to the light! LOL!! I'm not sure what u mean about text speak but this IS the way soaps have always been written. And like I said, I have 45 yrs' experience of watching!! I'm not talking about the show, I'm talking about your sudden use of "text speak"... Things like shortening words... U for you R for are PPL for people YR for you're And so on and so forth. You never used to do that before. Come on back to the light!!!! I've always done that gf, where u been? lol. I don't plan on changing my writing style after almost a whole yr!! |
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Quote young at heart: Seems like you have made me out the bad person. OK we all have our opinions. Shepmajor, it seems like I possibly offended you, if so I didn't mean to. General Hospital is a soap opera, and for our entertainment. Some people just take it all to heart. I watch alot of shows and many times I use the fast forward button, even in a movie. Today, after months, I decide to post and I made out the bad guy. Guess I will just read the MB for awhile. young at heart, their is nothing wrong with your post....I hope you come back and post I guess it is alright for some posters to say what they want but not others. |
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Quote kylesgirl: First of in the real world every 2.5 seconds a woman in this country is raped. In the military out of the military the fact is the same. Military men are not exempt. The Military takes the allegations of rape very seriously. The post war psychosis is a real problem with this war. It causes these men and woman to do things that they just wouldn't normally do. Believe it or not my son knows the sister of the guy they showed on the news who through that puppy in the dessert. He said he did it cause they were bored and he snapped. Something in his head told him to. He use to be a very sweet and caring guy now hes and angry misguided young man. They also didn't say that he was going to rape her they said he was going to ATTACK her. And the violence against woman is not that bad on this show as is on some others. It how ever is necessary sometimes to bring to light the violence against women in real life. PSA's are brought up when they do this. I don't know your disgruntled factor about this. It happens in real life maybe in your little world it doesn't happen but women get beat and hurt and raped buy men everyday. Not all men are as loving and compassionate as we would love them to be. I am lucky I am now married to a loving and compassionate man who happens to be in the Navy but my first husband wasn't that way. Violences is something we must all face even though it is ugly it needs to be faced. You know what? We ALL know that violence exists in a wide variety of forms - military and non-military. I *think* the original complaint was that why is it usually the military guys who are always getting the "bad rap"? Thats' not to say it doesn't happen in real life - just that this particular show seems to have a penchant for painting military men in a bad light. More to the point... Soaps are SUPPOSED to be about ESCAPISM, and FANTASY - a way to "escape" the real world for a little while each day. Pretty sure THAT is the point the OP was trying to make. Yes, stuff happens... what's wrong with wanting to escape from all that for an hour or three a day? |
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Quote young at heart: Seems like you have made me out the bad person. OK we all have our opinions. Shepmajor, it seems like I possibly offended you, if so I didn't mean to. General Hospital is a soap opera, and for our entertainment. Some people just take it all to heart. I watch alot of shows and many times I use the fast forward button, even in a movie. Today, after months, I decide to post and I made out the bad guy. Guess I will just read the MB for awhile. young at heart - You are not a "bad guy" - not at all. You popped off with some attitude and I called you on it. I apologize if I made you feel badly - that was not my intent. For what it's worth? It's really easy to sit back and throw one's hands in the air and just tell someone not to watch the show, without realizing that the other poster is just venting. In this case I feel like her venting is justified. The show has progressively gotten darker and more violent when it is supposed to be an escape from all that. It's supposed to be romance and adventure, a little heartbreak, and fun. Cops are supposed to be the good guys and mobsters are supposed to be the bad guy - they've turned that around...why?! |
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Quote meowbowow: Quote shepmajor: Quote meowbowow: Quote shepmajor Och! Meow!!!!! Tell me you haven't gone over to the dark side and are now communicating in text speak?!!!! Come back to the light, Meow... come back to the light! LOL!! I'm not sure what u mean about text speak but this IS the way soaps have always been written. And like I said, I have 45 yrs' experience of watching!! I'm not talking about the show, I'm talking about your sudden use of "text speak"... Things like shortening words... U for you R for are PPL for people YR for you're And so on and so forth. You never used to do that before. Come on back to the light!!!! I've always done that gf, where u been? lol. I don't plan on changing my writing style after almost a whole yr!! Not that I noticed... but okay. |
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**Some of the rebuttals here astound me. This is how I read what some of you are saying. |
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Quote jnlforever: Quote young at heart: Seems like you have made me out the bad person. OK we all have our opinions. Shepmajor, it seems like I possibly offended you, if so I didn't mean to. General Hospital is a soap opera, and for our entertainment. Some people just take it all to heart. I watch alot of shows and many times I use the fast forward button, even in a movie. Today, after months, I decide to post and I made out the bad guy. Guess I will just read the MB for awhile. young at heart, their is nothing wrong with your post....I hope you come back and post I guess it is alright for some posters to say what they want but not others. Everybody has a right to their opinion as well. I also hope she comes back. |
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Quote Angel929: **Some of the rebuttals here astound me. This is how I read what some of you are saying. "He intended to rape her, but all he ended up doing was scaring the heck out of her, dominating her physically and calling her offensive names. So what's the big deal." "Woman have been raped on daytime television for decades. What's the big deal?" "But after a woman's attacked and brutalized and shot or stabbed or kidnapped ... man is she tough. So, what's the big deal?"** No one ever said big deal. **My feeling, when I started this discussion, and still today, is that A. woman can be portrayed as strong and independent without having to first go through a trauma. and B. GH has used this as a way to move a storyline forward quite a bit lately.** You are right that woman can be strong and independent without having to go through a trauma. But how in the heck would you write a drama story without drama. I guess we could have an entire show with woman like Kate minus her shooting. Or we could have Diana in court but then they would need to bring on a bunch of male characters to commit crimes for her to defend so the women get backburned to keep them from suffering any trauma. But I also bet that the show wouldn't last long. The entire point of the woman suffering trauma is to make the woman watching the show root for them. You also need an action and a reaction for a drama. **Anyway, this is my final say on this. I really appreciate the posters who have agreed, whether in whole or part, with my grievance. It's easy to be numbed to something you witness often. I felt it was too much. ** I love the assumption that I am unfeeling if I don't agree. My close friends know my life story. My close friends tell me all the time that if my life was a soap opera, it wouldn't be believable because no one person could go through what I have in one life time. But I sure don't consider myself a victim. Someone who suffered a crime or a trauma yes but not a victim. A victim is somehow who uses what happened to them as an excuse. I've had terrible things happen to me, some have even been mentioned in your list. They happened because of bad people. But I not only learned a lot about myself because of my experiences, I've grown in ways that I never would have without those experiences. Part that growth and the biggest reason I am happy that I had those experiences is that I've been able to use my experiences to help others. And basically, that is what soap operas are about. A young woman who is raped, watching Liz get raped and the aftermath, had someone to identify with. And maybe, just maybe seeing Lucky help Liz throught that situation got that young woman to talk to someone. A woman who suffers a miscarriage or the loss of a baby, seeing Carly miscarry or Sam lose her baby, had someone to identify with. It gave her an opening to start out talking about the characters on the show then turn the conversation into what she is going through. An HIV positive woman sees Robin having a baby while HIV positive, just got hope that someday she can still have a baby. I think that is the point most of the posters, who you felt were saying big deal, were making. It is not he trauma we look forward to seeing. It is the way they handle it that makes us root for them and maybe, just maybe, at some time in our lives, we can help someone else, or be more understanding and compassionate, because we haven't experienced but we have some idea because we saw it on a soap opera. GREAT POST Angel!!! *standing and applauding* I am so sorry you had to go through the awful things you did but am glad to hear you have grown to become a strong person. |
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Quote Angel929: **Some of the rebuttals here astound me. This is how I read what some of you are saying. "He intended to rape her, but all he ended up doing was scaring the heck out of her, dominating her physically and calling her offensive names. So what's the big deal." "Woman have been raped on daytime television for decades. What's the big deal?" "But after a woman's attacked and brutalized and shot or stabbed or kidnapped ... man is she tough. So, what's the big deal?"** No one ever said big deal. **My feeling, when I started this discussion, and still today, is that A. woman can be portrayed as strong and independent without having to first go through a trauma. and B. GH has used this as a way to move a storyline forward quite a bit lately.** You are right that woman can be strong and independent without having to go through a trauma. But how in the heck would you write a drama story without drama. I guess we could have an entire show with woman like Kate minus her shooting. Or we could have Diana in court but then they would need to bring on a bunch of male characters to commit crimes for her to defend so the women get backburned to keep them from suffering any trauma. But I also bet that the show wouldn't last long. The entire point of the woman suffering trauma is to make the woman watching the show root for them. You also need an action and a reaction for a drama. **Anyway, this is my final say on this. I really appreciate the posters who have agreed, whether in whole or part, with my grievance. It's easy to be numbed to something you witness often. I felt it was too much. ** I love the assumption that I am unfeeling if I don't agree. My close friends know my life story. My close friends tell me all the time that if my life was a soap opera, it wouldn't be believable because no one person could go through what I have in one life time. But I sure don't consider myself a victim. Someone who suffered a crime or a trauma yes but not a victim. A victim is somehow who uses what happened to them as an excuse. I've had terrible things happen to me, some have even been mentioned in your list. They happened because of bad people. But I not only learned a lot about myself because of my experiences, I've grown in ways that I never would have without those experiences. Part that growth and the biggest reason I am happy that I had those experiences is that I've been able to use my experiences to help others. And basically, that is what soap operas are about. A young woman who is raped, watching Liz get raped and the aftermath, had someone to identify with. And maybe, just maybe seeing Lucky help Liz throught that situation got that young woman to talk to someone. A woman who suffers a miscarriage or the loss of a baby, seeing Carly miscarry or Sam lose her baby, had someone to identify with. It gave her an opening to start out talking about the characters on the show then turn the conversation into what she is going through. An HIV positive woman sees Robin having a baby while HIV positive, just got hope that someday she can still have a baby. I think that is the point most of the posters, who you felt were saying big deal, were making. It is not he trauma we look forward to seeing. It is the way they handle it that makes us root for them and maybe, just maybe, at some time in our lives, we can help someone else, or be more understanding and compassionate, because we haven't experienced but we have some idea because we saw it on a soap opera. Well said |
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ITA Angel! |
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