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Jason vs Nikolas

Started by Soap Dweeb at 2008/06/19 06:03PM
Latest post: 2008/06/20 09:19AM, Views: 540, Replies: 51
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#31   2008/06/20 08:16AM
Re: Jason vs Nikolas
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Quote Wishing4Liason: I have a question SoapDweeb...I see this throw out there alot, and I have to ask...where has it ever been shown that Jason's preference is a ride or die chick??

I think it has to do with the individual...Jason met Carly at a time that he didn't care and vice versa with Carly...thru Michael and circumstances they bonded....Jason remains loyal to Carly to this day because of that bond...it doesn't have to do with ride or die...in fact Jason's personal choice for a mate that would one would consider to be his wife is the exact opposite....Jason's work is NOT all of who he is...that is where I think people get confused with his character.


I know that's not just who he is but it does make it hard for most women to deal with being with him. Robin & Liz are examples of two significant women he's been with that have allowed his 'job' to get in the way of being with him. I think that's what made him and Sam work for a while since she would do anything for Jason and accepted all of his life, not just him as a person. Regardless of him preferring his wife to be the opposite it'll be unlikey he'll find such a woman that will always be there no matter what.


Problem is, Sam WASN'T there no matter what. She started putting restrictions on him and telling him what to do, so NO she DIDN'T accept every aspect of his life. How many people's spouses are EXACTLY like them or accept every aspect of them?? NONE that I know of. As far as Sam being the only woman being there for Jason, when the going got tough, NO Sam WASN'T there for Jason all the time (sleeping with Ric, tricking him about seeing Jake, the kidnapping and guns...that was all about Sam, not Jason) and ANY woman can be there for him when he needs them. Liz has done it dozens of times over the years...even at the risk of her own career. Sam had no life OTHER than Jason so she MADE Jason her be all and end all so THAT'S why she was there at his beckon call, not because that's the kind of person Jason is MEANT to be with.


I think the fact Sam almost died because of her being with Jason made her start to set some restrictions. She got shot for heaven sake and that made it so she can't have kids. There's only so much a person can accept before they realise their lives are in danger. I'd be a little nervous as well if I was with someone that almost got me killed.

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#32   2008/06/20 08:25AM
Re: Jason vs Nikolas
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Quote GenHospitalfan: Jason and Elizabeth in the past were misunderstandings and things unsaid NOT Jason's job profession!!

Didn't Liz also sleep with Zander? Around that time, before DVR and Soapnet , I couldn't watch so I don't know too much about that time. Too bad too b/c I was a HUGE Jason/Liz fan back then...before Courtney man-arms, and I haven't been able to really get into them this time


Yes Liz slept with Zander. HORRIBLE storyline. BH was pregnant in real life and they had to have her pregnant on the show BUT with someone who wasn't going to be a part of the babies life so they had her sleep with Zander. HORRIBLE storyline.


I agree, it was a horrible storyline!

#33   2008/06/20 08:30AM
Re: Jason vs Nikolas
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Quote Soap Dweeb:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote Soap Dweeb:
Quote Wishing4Liason: I have a question SoapDweeb...I see this throw out there alot, and I have to ask...where has it ever been shown that Jason's preference is a ride or die chick??

I think it has to do with the individual...Jason met Carly at a time that he didn't care and vice versa with Carly...thru Michael and circumstances they bonded....Jason remains loyal to Carly to this day because of that bond...it doesn't have to do with ride or die...in fact Jason's personal choice for a mate that would one would consider to be his wife is the exact opposite....Jason's work is NOT all of who he is...that is where I think people get confused with his character.


I know that's not just who he is but it does make it hard for most women to deal with being with him. Robin & Liz are examples of two significant women he's been with that have allowed his 'job' to get in the way of being with him. I think that's what made him and Sam work for a while since she would do anything for Jason and accepted all of his life, not just him as a person. Regardless of him preferring his wife to be the opposite it'll be unlikey he'll find such a woman that will always be there no matter what.


Problem is, Sam WASN'T there no matter what. She started putting restrictions on him and telling him what to do, so NO she DIDN'T accept every aspect of his life. How many people's spouses are EXACTLY like them or accept every aspect of them?? NONE that I know of. As far as Sam being the only woman being there for Jason, when the going got tough, NO Sam WASN'T there for Jason all the time (sleeping with Ric, tricking him about seeing Jake, the kidnapping and guns...that was all about Sam, not Jason) and ANY woman can be there for him when he needs them. Liz has done it dozens of times over the years...even at the risk of her own career. Sam had no life OTHER than Jason so she MADE Jason her be all and end all so THAT'S why she was there at his beckon call, not because that's the kind of person Jason is MEANT to be with.


I think the fact Sam almost died because of her being with Jason made her start to set some restrictions. She got shot for heaven sake and that made it so she can't have kids. There's only so much a person can accept before they realise their lives are in danger. I'd be a little nervous as well if I was with someone that almost got me killed.


Except she didn't. It was Jason that pushed her away and it was Sam that begged to be allowed to come home. She had no life outside of Jason and that is a dangerous prospect in any relationship.

#34   2008/06/20 08:33AM
Re: Jason vs Nikolas
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OK...I wouldn't mind Nikolas and Jason fighting. I love it when hot guys fight but not over Cluadia. It not that she isn't worth the fight because I'm a huge Claudia fan, she brings a lot of flava to the show but love is not her game. She is way to screwed up and so is Nikolas for that matter.

Jason, on the other hand, is still hung up on Elizabeth (I Love Liason)and I'm not a real big fan of the soap rebound because someone always ends up hurt. Claudia's way to territorial (look @ her, Johnny, and Lulu) and if she tried to hurt Liz I'd have to hate her. Lets just keep things simple for the time being!

#35   2008/06/20 09:10AM
Re: Jason vs Nikolas
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Quote GenHospitalfan:
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Quote GenHospitalfan: Jason and Elizabeth in the past were misunderstandings and things unsaid NOT Jason's job profession!!

Didn't Liz also sleep with Zander? Around that time, before DVR and Soapnet , I couldn't watch so I don't know too much about that time. Too bad too b/c I was a HUGE Jason/Liz fan back then...before Courtney man-arms, and I haven't been able to really get into them this time


Yes Liz slept with Zander. HORRIBLE storyline. BH was pregnant in real life and they had to have her pregnant on the show BUT with someone who wasn't going to be a part of the babies life so they had her sleep with Zander. HORRIBLE storyline.


Thanks for the re-cap. Were her and Jason together at the time....did she cheat?


You're welcome and no they weren't together at the time.

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#36   2008/06/20 09:18AM
Re: Jason vs Nikolas
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Quote Soap Dweeb:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote Soap Dweeb:
Quote Wishing4Liason: I have a question SoapDweeb...I see this throw out there alot, and I have to ask...where has it ever been shown that Jason's preference is a ride or die chick??

I think it has to do with the individual...Jason met Carly at a time that he didn't care and vice versa with Carly...thru Michael and circumstances they bonded....Jason remains loyal to Carly to this day because of that bond...it doesn't have to do with ride or die...in fact Jason's personal choice for a mate that would one would consider to be his wife is the exact opposite....Jason's work is NOT all of who he is...that is where I think people get confused with his character.


I know that's not just who he is but it does make it hard for most women to deal with being with him. Robin & Liz are examples of two significant women he's been with that have allowed his 'job' to get in the way of being with him. I think that's what made him and Sam work for a while since she would do anything for Jason and accepted all of his life, not just him as a person. Regardless of him preferring his wife to be the opposite it'll be unlikey he'll find such a woman that will always be there no matter what.


Problem is, Sam WASN'T there no matter what. She started putting restrictions on him and telling him what to do, so NO she DIDN'T accept every aspect of his life. How many people's spouses are EXACTLY like them or accept every aspect of them?? NONE that I know of. As far as Sam being the only woman being there for Jason, when the going got tough, NO Sam WASN'T there for Jason all the time (sleeping with Ric, tricking him about seeing Jake, the kidnapping and guns...that was all about Sam, not Jason) and ANY woman can be there for him when he needs them. Liz has done it dozens of times over the years...even at the risk of her own career. Sam had no life OTHER than Jason so she MADE Jason her be all and end all so THAT'S why she was there at his beckon call, not because that's the kind of person Jason is MEANT to be with.


I think the fact Sam almost died because of her being with Jason made her start to set some restrictions. She got shot for heaven sake and that made it so she can't have kids. There's only so much a person can accept before they realise their lives are in danger. I'd be a little nervous as well if I was with someone that almost got me killed.


No, that's NOT how it happened. After Sam got shot, Jason pushed her away and she BEGGED him to take her back and told him that HE can't dictate who she loves and is with and HE was who she wanted and SHE could handle the lifestyle. She NEVER had a problem with his lifestyle UNTIL she told Lucky that she was scared everyday...what was that, a year after her and Jason broke up and because it fit well into the conversation to Lucky and when she brings up she can't have kids now. She had a choice to leave after she got shot...she CHOSE to stay so NO she wasn't scared at all.

It wasn't until Jake was born that Sam started realizing that life with Jason was ending and she became obsessive and manipulative.

It's funny that it's always said that Sam is the only one that could handle his lifestyle but then comments are made that she had every reason to be scared, there's only so much she could take. Contradiction? I think so.

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#37   2008/06/20 09:19AM
Re: Jason vs Nikolas
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Quote Canadiana:
Quote Soap Dweeb:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote Soap Dweeb:
Quote Wishing4Liason: I have a question SoapDweeb...I see this throw out there alot, and I have to ask...where has it ever been shown that Jason's preference is a ride or die chick??

I think it has to do with the individual...Jason met Carly at a time that he didn't care and vice versa with Carly...thru Michael and circumstances they bonded....Jason remains loyal to Carly to this day because of that bond...it doesn't have to do with ride or die...in fact Jason's personal choice for a mate that would one would consider to be his wife is the exact opposite....Jason's work is NOT all of who he is...that is where I think people get confused with his character.


I know that's not just who he is but it does make it hard for most women to deal with being with him. Robin & Liz are examples of two significant women he's been with that have allowed his 'job' to get in the way of being with him. I think that's what made him and Sam work for a while since she would do anything for Jason and accepted all of his life, not just him as a person. Regardless of him preferring his wife to be the opposite it'll be unlikey he'll find such a woman that will always be there no matter what.


Problem is, Sam WASN'T there no matter what. She started putting restrictions on him and telling him what to do, so NO she DIDN'T accept every aspect of his life. How many people's spouses are EXACTLY like them or accept every aspect of them?? NONE that I know of. As far as Sam being the only woman being there for Jason, when the going got tough, NO Sam WASN'T there for Jason all the time (sleeping with Ric, tricking him about seeing Jake, the kidnapping and guns...that was all about Sam, not Jason) and ANY woman can be there for him when he needs them. Liz has done it dozens of times over the years...even at the risk of her own career. Sam had no life OTHER than Jason so she MADE Jason her be all and end all so THAT'S why she was there at his beckon call, not because that's the kind of person Jason is MEANT to be with.


I think the fact Sam almost died because of her being with Jason made her start to set some restrictions. She got shot for heaven sake and that made it so she can't have kids. There's only so much a person can accept before they realise their lives are in danger. I'd be a little nervous as well if I was with someone that almost got me killed.


Except she didn't. It was Jason that pushed her away and it was Sam that begged to be allowed to come home. She had no life outside of Jason and that is a dangerous prospect in any relationship.


Again, I should read other posts before I post my responses. Great minds and all that I guess. LOL

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