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Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.

Started by genhospchat at 2008/06/02 01:09PM
Latest post: 2008/06/24 08:19AM, Views: 1695, Replies: 153
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#11   2008/06/02 03:44PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
stormy1000
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My biggest problem with Sam, is her new found interest in Spinelli.

When has Sam ever done more than tolerated Spinelli? When her and Jason were together she was very mean to Spinelli and only dealt with him when she wanted to use him for something.

She would snap on him and say mean things to hurt his feelings to the point that Spinelli once considered moving out.

I absolutely think she has an hidden agenda. If it wasn't about Jason, why the little dig about "talking to a brick wall wearing on a girl"? Oh really?

If Sam thought she had half a chance, she certainly wouldn't mind jumping that "brick wall".

Her apartment would have worked just as well as Jason's apartment if she really was sincere about trying to help Spin.

#12   2008/06/02 03:47PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
meowbowow
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Quote Kamino: Yeah...Sam has an apartment of her own & they have been there to do their stuff. I'm guessing she was there because she took Spinelli home from the gun range.

I know the fact that they used to date would be a reason for her not to be there but she's there for Spinelli. Spinelli lives there & she's there as his guest. Your right about Spinelli being more respectful but if Jason had a problem with it, he could have told her to leave as soon as he saw her.

But I really don't see any harm in her being there. If it was for other reasons...Yeah. But I don't think that the case so I'm cool with it.


Sam could have just as easily taken him to her apartment to do the "training." They shouldn't have to go to the PH at all. She can be there for Spin at her place. We don't know what Jason will say about Sam being there b/c that was the end of the show. I will be interested to see if he comments about it.

#13   2008/06/02 03:51PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
meowbowow
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Quote genhospchat:
Quote cupcake12: I doubt anything is going on or the chick is up to anything so Jasam like shared scenes today that stinks I wanted to see their scenes without each other in them I really with as a fan of both characters that TPTB will never let them share scenes again and Spin and Sam should have been at her apartment what is up with that


I'm sorry but I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying. Can you please explain a little more with more than one sentence running together.

I don't think Sam is up to anything, I am just saying it's wrong and disrespectful of Sam and Spin both to have their "meetings" at Jason's.

At the least, Spin should have asked Jason first.


ITA. Instead of having Jason be surprised at her being there that is the least he could have done. She has a perfectly good apartment, meet there and stay away from the PH.

#14   2008/06/02 03:54PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
Maniac
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Sam was never mean to Spinelle. Any time she snapped at him it was usually when she was very upset already,or he intterrupted Jason and her at a bad time. And she always said she was sorry later. That's more than Jason does. Most people use him as needed,and tolerate him at other times.

#15   2008/06/02 03:54PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
meowbowow
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Quote Angel929:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote Kamino: Yeah...Sam has an apartment of her own & they have been there to do their stuff. I'm guessing she was there because she took Spinelli home from the gun range.

I know fact that they used to date would be a reason for her not to be there but she's there for Spinelli. Spinelli lives there & she's there as his guest. Your right about Spinelli being more respectful but if Jason had a problem with it, he could have told her to leave as soon as he saw her.

But I really don't see any harm in her being there. If it was for other reasons...Yeah. But I don't think that the case so I'm cool with it.


Spin could have come home on his own OR they could have gone to Sam's apartment. Jason and Sam dating before doesn't bother me for her being there, it's the fact of the other stuff she has done that makes it wrong for her to be there. She has been disrespected Jason and throwing little snary comments at him for over a year and then has the nerve to go into his apartment and everything should be ok now? I just think it's completely wrong.

Regardless of whether she's Spin's guest, it is disrespectful of her to be having a candlelight dinner there..period. They should be meeting at her place. JMO


Even today Sam threw snarly comments. When she said Spin's mistake was trying to act like Jason, she was nice. I gave her the benefit of the doubt because she was right. Later she turned her back to Jason and said "Trust me...talking to a brick wall starts to wear on a woman."

BTW, in Sam's head, she wasn't being disrespectful to Jason. When Spin said it could be uncomfortable, Spin went into a spiel about how she was devasted but has gotten over that she it was fine for her to be there. She made it sound like it was her choice to stay away from Jason because she was upset about the break-up but now that she is over it, she can be around him. It was all about her.

Finally, Sam saying that she doesn't "have an agenda." If you don't have an agenda, why are you even bringing it up?


Excellent point!! LOL. Of course she has an agenda for being at the PH, to see Jason. I highly doubt she is over him.

#16   2008/06/02 03:56PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
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Quote Maniac: I see absolutely nothing wrong with Sam being in the PH. She has been trying to come when Jason isn't home. Jason didn't seem to have a problem with it either,or he would have asked her to leave. They have been trying to get along with each other. They do live in the same town and share some of the same friends. The good times they shared greatly out number the bad. Jason would not hesitate to go to her place if he needed to.


I have to disagree about the good times outweighing the bad, far from it!! She put Jason's son in danger twice and that's not very forgivable, at least not for Jason Morgan.

#17   2008/06/02 04:00PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
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Is it because she is in Jason apartment or are the fan's complaining because they might become friend's again.if I was Sam I wouldn't go near Jason, he's not worth it, she put his son in danger, yet he stole one, and put one in danger also, so one is no better than the other,

#18   2008/06/02 04:09PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
Maniac
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Quote meowbowow:
Quote Maniac: I see absolutely nothing wrong with Sam being in the PH. She has been trying to come when Jason isn't home. Jason didn't seem to have a problem with it either,or he would have asked her to leave. They have been trying to get along with each other. They do live in the same town and share some of the same friends. The good times they shared greatly out number the bad. Jason would not hesitate to go to her place if he needed to.


I have to disagree about the good times outweighing the bad, far from it!! She put Jason's son in danger twice and that's not very forgivable, at least not for Jason Morgan.


But everyone is suppose to forgive and forget that Jason helped keep his own brother's son away from him. Look were Micheal is now. If he had left him alone he would be with his family. I'm not saying Sam didn't do wrong. But I get so tired of everything Jason does being okay. He has no right to stand in judgement over anyone. He killed Algazar while his baby girl was right up stairs.
By "good times" I meant all the times they were always there for each other,before things went bad.

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#19   2008/06/02 05:02PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
fireball
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I see your point Gen, although I am enjoying seeing Kemo, I agree I wouldn't want to come home to see one of my ex's there for any reason; Spin is Jason's guest and that does not give him free reign to have anyone over that would make it uncomfortable for Jason.

#20   2008/06/02 05:03PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
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Quote Maniac:
Quote meowbowow:
Quote Maniac: I see absolutely nothing wrong with Sam being in the PH. She has been trying to come when Jason isn't home. Jason didn't seem to have a problem with it either,or he would have asked her to leave. They have been trying to get along with each other. They do live in the same town and share some of the same friends. The good times they shared greatly out number the bad. Jason would not hesitate to go to her place if he needed to.


I have to disagree about the good times outweighing the bad, far from it!! She put Jason's son in danger twice and that's not very forgivable, at least not for Jason Morgan.


But everyone is suppose to forgive and forget that Jason helped keep his own brother's son away from him. Look were Micheal is now. If he had left him alone he would be with his family. I'm not saying Sam didn't do wrong. But I get so tired of everything Jason does being okay. He has no right to stand in judgement over anyone. He killed Algazar while his baby girl was right up stairs.
By "good times" I meant all the times they were always there for each other,before things went bad.


You darn right everybody is supposed to forgive and forget when it comes to Jason!

The man is who he is because of brain damage. If Jason's brain had never been injured he would have been Jason Quartermaine M.D. But his brain got irreversibly damaged when he was a first year Med student.

Jason did not realize stealing Micheal was wrong. Everyone close to him told him he was doing the right thing.He had nothing to compare with as far as experience.

He was barely 2 years out of his accident. He didn't remember his childhood, all he knew is loyalty to Carly and Carly took advantage of that.
Now he knows stealing Micheal was wrong only after becoming a father himself and having something to compare it with.

Jason is handicapped, you can't blame handicapped people for the things their handicaps limit them to.

People like Sonny, Sam, Carly, Ric and whoever else who are in full possession of all their faculties have no excuses when it comes to making damaging choices.

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#21   2008/06/02 06:26PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
meowbowow
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Quote Maniac:
Quote meowbowow:
Quote Maniac: I see absolutely nothing wrong with Sam being in the PH. She has been trying to come when Jason isn't home. Jason didn't seem to have a problem with it either,or he would have asked her to leave. They have been trying to get along with each other. They do live in the same town and share some of the same friends. The good times they shared greatly out number the bad. Jason would not hesitate to go to her place if he needed to.


I have to disagree about the good times outweighing the bad, far from it!! She put Jason's son in danger twice and that's not very forgivable, at least not for Jason Morgan.


But everyone is suppose to forgive and forget that Jason helped keep his own brother's son away from him. Look were Micheal is now. If he had left him alone he would be with his family. I'm not saying Sam didn't do wrong. But I get so tired of everything Jason does being okay. He has no right to stand in judgement over anyone. He killed Algazar while his baby girl was right up stairs.
By "good times" I meant all the times they were always there for each other,before things went bad.


What kind of father was AJ, CRAPPY!! All Michael ever was to him was a trophy and nothing else. Jason has mentioned several times already how bad he feels about that but at the time Jason was a much better father. AJ was a drunk and the reason for Jason's brain damage. I will never forgive him for that and Jason shouldn't either. Alcazar was a rotten dude as well. He kept Skye's baby away from her to make her do what he wanted. Plus he tried to kill Sonny first. I just realized this thread is not at all about that so I will stop now.

#22   2008/06/02 06:29PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
meowbowow
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Quote stormy1000:
Quote Maniac:
Quote meowbowow:
Quote Maniac: I see absolutely nothing wrong with Sam being in the PH. She has been trying to come when Jason isn't home. Jason didn't seem to have a problem with it either,or he would have asked her to leave. They have been trying to get along with each other. They do live in the same town and share some of the same friends. The good times they shared greatly out number the bad. Jason would not hesitate to go to her place if he needed to.


I have to disagree about the good times outweighing the bad, far from it!! She put Jason's son in danger twice and that's not very forgivable, at least not for Jason Morgan.


But everyone is suppose to forgive and forget that Jason helped keep his own brother's son away from him. Look were Micheal is now. If he had left him alone he would be with his family. I'm not saying Sam didn't do wrong. But I get so tired of everything Jason does being okay. He has no right to stand in judgement over anyone. He killed Algazar while his baby girl was right up stairs.
By "good times" I meant all the times they were always there for each other,before things went bad.


You darn right everybody is supposed to forgive and forget when it comes to Jason!

The man is who he is because of brain damage. If Jason's brain had never been injured he would have been Jason Quartermaine M.D. But his brain got irreversibly damaged when he was a first year Med student.

Jason did not realize stealing Micheal was wrong. Everyone close to him told him he was doing the right thing.He had nothing to compare with as far as experience.

He was barely 2 years out of his accident. He didn't remember his childhood, all he knew is loyalty to Carly and Carly took advantage of that.
Now he knows stealing Micheal was wrong only after becoming a father himself and having something to compare it with.

Jason is handicapped, you can't blame handicapped people for the things their handicaps limit them to.

People like Sonny, Sam, Carly, Ric and whoever else who are in full possession of all their faculties have no excuses when it comes to making damaging choices.


VERY EXCELLENT POST, ITA w/u 100%!!!!!!!!

#23   2008/06/02 07:14PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
elwood
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IMHO, for Jason to be upset about Sam being there would mean he'd have to care. And as we all know, Jason doesn't give a rats about Sam. He's being cordial (which I think is nice), however, if she EVER messed with Liz and/or Jake again, he's already made her very aware of what he'll do. That 'cordialness' goes away instantly. As we all know, Jason doesn't make threats he won't keep

#24   2008/06/02 10:28PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
genhospchat
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Quote meowbowow:
Quote Angel929:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote Kamino: Yeah...Sam has an apartment of her own & they have been there to do their stuff. I'm guessing she was there because she took Spinelli home from the gun range.

I know fact that they used to date would be a reason for her not to be there but she's there for Spinelli. Spinelli lives there & she's there as his guest. Your right about Spinelli being more respectful but if Jason had a problem with it, he could have told her to leave as soon as he saw her.

But I really don't see any harm in her being there. If it was for other reasons...Yeah. But I don't think that the case so I'm cool with it.


Spin could have come home on his own OR they could have gone to Sam's apartment. Jason and Sam dating before doesn't bother me for her being there, it's the fact of the other stuff she has done that makes it wrong for her to be there. She has been disrespected Jason and throwing little snary comments at him for over a year and then has the nerve to go into his apartment and everything should be ok now? I just think it's completely wrong.

Regardless of whether she's Spin's guest, it is disrespectful of her to be having a candlelight dinner there..period. They should be meeting at her place. JMO


Even today Sam threw snarly comments. When she said Spin's mistake was trying to act like Jason, she was nice. I gave her the benefit of the doubt because she was right. Later she turned her back to Jason and said "Trust me...talking to a brick wall starts to wear on a woman."

BTW, in Sam's head, she wasn't being disrespectful to Jason. When Spin said it could be uncomfortable, Spin went into a spiel about how she was devasted but has gotten over that she it was fine for her to be there. She made it sound like it was her choice to stay away from Jason because she was upset about the break-up but now that she is over it, she can be around him. It was all about her.

Finally, Sam saying that she doesn't "have an agenda." If you don't have an agenda, why are you even bringing it up?


Excellent point!! LOL. Of course she has an agenda for being at the PH, to see Jason. I highly doubt she is over him.


I don't think she has the agenda to see Jason because she's not over him, but IF there was an agenda, it would be to show that she's trying to help his buddy Spin and to get on Jason's good side again. You could see he had no feeling for her whatsoever so she should be smart enough to realize that even if she did want him. he has no interest in her in ANY way.

#25   2008/06/02 10:35PM
Re: Sam has an apartment, Spin doesn't.
genhospchat
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Quote luluspencer: Is it because she is in Jason apartment or are the fan's complaining because they might become friend's again.if I was Sam I wouldn't go near Jason, he's not worth it, she put his son in danger, yet he stole one, and put one in danger also, so one is no better than the other,


As for the comment about the kids, one situation has nothing to do with the other and it's just a comment to AGAIN justify Sam's actions toward the kids and the justifications are getting old and really out there and has NOTHING to do with this thread WHATSOEVER!! Get past the justifications and comparisions and actually READ what is written instead of what you want it to be.

As for "the fans" getting upset that Sam is at Jason's, well since I'm the one that started the thread I will answer but before I do, I have a mind of my own and I speak it. If I was upset about Sam and Jason becoming friends, I would say that but if you read MY posts, you'd see that I didn't say that and the reasons that I'm upset that Sam is there. I ALSO stated that I thought it was wrong of Spin to have her there so it's not a DIG ON SAM or JASAM in any way. It has to do with respect to Jason and that was ALL. How would Sam feel if Lucky had Liz over for a faux dinner at HER apartment??? It is about respect for Jason's home, not Jason and Sam having ANY KIND of friendship. As for that though, since you mentioned it, no I'm not worried because if it ever were to happen, which I don't believe it would, I don't see it as anything more than one helping the other out during a crisis and in NO WAY meaning anything more, so no need for me (or any other "fan") to worry about that.

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