General Hospital - MESSAGE BOARDS

Hi!

I guess we all agree that the Niz and LnL2 triangle is very soapy now that TSW are showing Liz come to the realization that she is still in love with Lucky. When she told Lucky last night at the studio that it has taken her a long time to get to the same place as Lucky or something to effect, I really felt it. When she was reminiscing about that Valentine's Day ten years ago in the church with LnL2 exchanging their vows, I felt her love for Lucky. The way her face lit up when Lucky showed up with the bouquet of white roses was beautiful. That felt real, not forced.

I am not sold that Liz has genuine feelings of love for Nik. I think that there is friendship love that grew out of their high school years with Emily and Lucky. On a psychological level, Liz may believe that she has feelings of love for Nik to rationalize her actions to herself. It feels like TSW have shifted Nik's POV slightly - he is becoming more stalkerish and pushing himself on Liz. In the ABC promo preview, there is a moment when Nik seems to be pushing himself on Liz by saying don't you want this or something like that. Given Liz's rape history, I could see her giving into Nik. Nik seems to be bullying Liz in that he is imposing his will on Liz. Lucky would never push himself physically onto Liz after what Liz went through with the rape. I also could see that Nik doesn't see himself as pushing himself on Liz. Nik has convinced himself that Liz wants him and that he is only doing the right thing by pursuing Liz. Nik definitely become obsessive and stalkerish.

The Niz s/l is too plot driven but I understand why they are doing it if the theory that this Niz affair is to drive a wedge between Lucky and Nik and reignite the Spencer/Cassadine feud. I wish that TSW didn't throw Liz under the bus for a S/C feud. It's not fair.

I would have preferred it if TSW took the time to craft a Niz s/l that felt organic and in keeping with Liz's character and history. Then we the viewers who love Liz would be really torn between her love for Lucky and Nik. I sometimes get the feeling that some viewers like Nik because they really dislike Lucky as opposed to loving Nik with Liz because it makes so sense and it felt like it was real love forming. We Liz fans want Liz happy and if Nik could do that, not Lucky, I could see myself getting behind Nik.

Even as I write, I am not even sure if TSW could pull that off because Nik's one true love was Emily. It was heartbreaking when Emily was killed and Nik's reaction to it. There is no way that after seeing his grief over Emily's death, one could get behind Nik falling for Liz. It's not real. It's his grief speaking. That's why I can't get behind the Niz affair because Liz deserves a man who will love her for her, not because he is griefing for another woman who died tragically.

Now if viewers don't want to see LnL2 redux, I understand. I really want to see Liz happy. Lucky's drug addiction, his affair with Maxie, Jake's paternity issue, Jake's kidnapping were all terrible experiences for Liz. She really was put through the ringer. I wish that Liz could be happy with Lucky (or another man) for a while before some soapy trouble. There just hasn't been too much time between all those problems and Liz being happy. I want to see Liz happy.

I am looking forward to Liz today at Emily's crypt, although I am not looking forward to her telling Emily about her feelings for Nik. Again, it's a contrivance, her supposed feelings for Nik for the service of another s/l coming down the pike. However, I will take any LnL2 scene and Liz scene that comes my way. Liz and LnL2 are the only reasons why I am watching GH regularly again! Go Liz!

Coming in to support Becky/Lizzie. I enjoyed the scenes today between Nik and Lucky and Lizzie and Rebecca. Nik's pov in the cemetery at Emily's crypt was interesting. I wished Nik was allowed to say more before Lucky interrupted. Lizzie is very conflicted; but, I believe she told a deceased Emily the truth. She was conflicted with Jason and Lucky and now she is conflicted with Lucky and Nik. Lizzie needs to get a clue. Better yet she needs to stop being a coward and start being honest with herself and stop the lying. I wonder was her mother a Mormon? Anyway, Lizzie I got news for you only men in the Mormon religion can have more than one mate. I can see my Lizzie being a bigamist.

Hi everyone!

Today's epi really got to me. I love Liz and really want to show my support for her. She is my favorite GH female character but today's epi was much, too much for me. I just couldn't bear her monologue at Emily's crypt. The stuff that she said so disrespectful to Lucky and to their love. Her self-destructiveness seems to know no bounds. At least, she admitted that this thing with Nik is an obsession. The only bright spot was the level of her honesty which I appreciate. However, her duplicity, betrayal and disrespect of Lucky ...

Liz is not herself and she is really lost to herself. She needs understanding, not recrimination. The thing is that Lucky would give her that. Lucky would probably let Liz go because he loves her more than anything. As painful as it would be for Lucky, he would do that for Liz. Maybe I am idealizing Lucky and putting him up on a pedestal but I think that Lucky would have the heart to let Liz go if she told him that she just couldn't go through the engagement and broke it off. If she told him that she couldn't love him in the same way that he loved her. It's the lying that Lucky won't be able to handle. He was angry at Luke and Laura because he felt that both of them had lied to him by withholding the truth of the rape.

I am trying to keep up my level of sympathy for Liz but today's epi did me in for the time being. The way that she is disrespecting Lucky and herself is just too much for me. Lucky is so in love with her, calling her my girl and she is telling Em that she wants Nik.

To watch Nik and Liz agonize about how they are betraying Lucky but can't help it. It's just too much for me. This Niz affair is so repulsive and unpalatable. I can't stand it anymore. I want a break from this Niz affair but of course it's full stream ahead until the reveal. So I will continue to watch cringing the whole time because I really want to see the reveal. If Niz continue to carry on after the reveal, I think that it will be some time before I can show my support for Liz.

I love Liz and I want to support her but I can't stand how Liz is behaving anymore. I think that I will take a break from this thread until I feel differently about Liz. I hope that my feelings right now are just a kneejerk reaction that I will get over it quickly, once the emotions comes down a bit and be able to come back to this thread happily. Perhaps I will see some of you on the other Lucky and LnL2 threads. Have a great weekend, everyone!

Hera!

Whatever you do try not to lose support for Lizzie’s character because then the TPTB has won. I really believe they are intentionally trying to destroy, ruin and punish this character because of the Liason fan base and to make a certain female character more loved over Lizzie’s character. I believe this as a Liason fan although I have lost respect for Jason. I will always love Liason even if I don’t want them together as a couple. One thing I noticed while surfing the other boards is that no matter how horrible that other female acts were many of her supporters never gave up on this character nor did they abandoned her. It looked like the TPTB have succeeded in their agenda because the Lizzie’s hatred is overwhelming and many of her supporters are abandoning this character; but, I will never give up on Lizzie no matter how much the writers are destroying this beautiful character. I am a character supporter before I am a couple’s supporter. For the record, I don’t like her lying to Lucky; but, I don’t feel sorry for Lucky either because he is not innocent in all of this.

I don’t want an LnL2 pairing because Lizzie will always take a heavier hit than Lucky if she does anything wrong while she is with Lucky and it doesn’t matter what it is. If Lucky does anything wrong to Lizzie he will get a slap on the hand no matter what he does to her. I will never support this pairing because everything is always about Lucky.

TPTB knew what they were doing. They intentionally sabotaged this character knowing that they were trying to bring Jonathan Jackson back as Lucky Spencer all the while writing Lizzie as a horrible person. They knew Jonathan Jackson was adore as Lucky Spencer by many viewers and that writing Lizzie in a negative light would give Lucky more supporters while Lizzie’s supporters diminished.

TPTB read these boards and knew exactly what they were doing.

Wtched Elizabeth talk to Emily today....she is one confused and hurting Mommy! She needs her friend and Jason to clear her head!

Coming into support Liz tonight. Luv her. Glad my girl do not like Rebecca..I do not either. What a difference a day make..love that song. Just yesterday everything was fine but what happen to yesterday. I want to know what do Gh has plan for Liz. I keep hoping things change but they have not. The more this drag out I do not see them getting back together Lucky and Liz.

I keep hearing rumors that Liz will lose everything. She must lose her children too. I just don't understand the way they are writing Liz. The writers are not right when they can't write a good story w/o trashing someone to get it. Say if Lucky get custody of the children. I wonder who will be helping him. He has to forgive Liz one day for her sleeping with Nic. I think something will happen to bring them back together again.

No LL2 together today. All we got was them talking to other people. I like how Lucky said he was looking for his girl. The look he gave Nic at the end was awesome
Well heading out. Love Liz. Here's to the best actress Gh have. Go Liz!!! Go LL2!!! Good-nite.

I totally think what Liz is doing is way out of character for her. She usually has more depth when she is so conflicted about men. Jason and her had alot of history way beyond her relationship with Lucky so when she was conflicted about them it made sense (Old flame vs Old flame) but this thing with Nic is weird. The depth always seemed to be more of a family thing than a them thing. Their history is centered around Lucky & Emily so it's weird to watch them. I also don't get where they think they would go from this point b/c Liz obviously doesn't want a future with Nic. Even when it was b/t Jason and Zander it was totally obvious her feelings were for Jason but she was fighting that and Zander was there. I don't know what do ya'll think? This Nic thing doesn't have much depth...And I'm really luving Lucky!!!

The first day JJ came back and Liz looking very sexy. I said Liz out grew him..but than that scene in the hospital
he was still the same Lucky I've known 10 years ago always giving Liz support. Thats why it would be a total of character to me if he get custody of Liz boys or take Liz to court I think he will do this out of spite.

Lucky and Liz are equal to me Lucky is the better actor than Tc that just my opinion and him and Liz plays off of each other well. They always know how to treat each other & be a couple. Love when they were young. Now they look different. Lucky do suspect something.

I know Franco is a good actor and all. Why does he comes to Port Charles and have a art show where as my girl is an artist nothing is done for her. I hope they get to meet each other because both are artist.

Lucky do have chemistry with Liz. That's why Lucky and Liz should be a couple. JJ and Becky are good actors. I don't know whats going to happen what I don't want Lucky taking liz to court. It is nothing much there with Niz except sex. Liz needs to be with Lucky. Good-nite again.

Hi!

Please excuse me for my momentary lapse of support for Liz yesterday. I am back to show my love and support for Liz, the best and most beautiful GH character!!!

I certainly hope that Lucky doesn't hurt Liz out of spite, although I could see it happening. I have heard the spoiler rumors as well about Liz losing everything. I am not sure what that means exactly.

I wonder if she has a nervous breakdown which causes her to lose the boys temporarily. Before Liz was saying how she isn't in love with Lucky, though she loves him. Now Liz is saying that she is in love with Lucky but wants Nik. So maybe she decides not to tell Lucky because she realizes that she wants him after all and she breaks it off with Nik. However, in the meantime Lucky has been putting together all the clues. He seems to be getting closer to the truth so eventually he figures it out. Later he confronts Liz, publicly or privately, I don't know, and he leaves Liz. Liz is devastated because she had finally chosen Lucky when she realized that he is the one that she has always wanted but couldn't see it for the longest time. She breaks down because everything she has ever wanted was staring her in the face and it has all slipped through her hands. She can't cope with the consequences of her actions.

I think that the moment when Lucky figures it all out and the moment when he confronts Liz are going to be powerful for both JJ and RH. With their rich history and chemistry, it's going to be heartbreaking for both of them.

I really wish that Liz had some good friends. I don't understand why TPTB won't have Liz talk with Robin. She is going to need her girlfriends to help her through the breakup and the aftermath. I really hope that her girlfriends will rally around her and support her and love her no matter what.

Everyone, have a great, blessed weekend! Thank you for being my GH blog buddies. It's really fantastic to be able to share my thoughts and comments about my favorite soap with all of you and to read your already intelligent, humorous and passionate thoughts and comments. I enjoy it so much. Take care!

Coming in to support my "Spitfire" Lizzie. Becky is doing an awesome job with this horrible script she was giving; however, I enjoy seeing the "Spitfire" side of Lizzie; but, could Lizzie for once tell Lucky the truth and stop all the lying. Anyway, only Nik can bring this "Spitfire" out of her and that is only because Lizzie can actually be herself around him and Nik knows this. I may not particular like this storyline; but, Nik and Lizzie have undeniable chemistry together and that is why I have always enjoyed watching their scenes together. At least Nik is not boring anymore.

Why can't TPTB/writers find another way to keep Niz together without using Lucky? I couldn't care less about Rebecca's character because she is still playing games and I don't trust her at all because no con artist is that stupid.

!) LovelyLiz- you brought up a good point about James Franco playing an artist who is featured. Does anyone else wonder if the fact that Liz is an artist too will come into play? could be interesting....