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Started by liz-fan at 2007/10/26 09:55AM
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#6721   2009/11/06 04:26AM
Re: Liz Fans only ........... Please No Bashers Thanks!
lovelyliz
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Good Morning!


Hera, I'm with you I don't want Liz back with Jason either. He has did too many things for me to ever want her to go back to him. If the rumors turn out to be true Liz go missing
and Jason finds her to me they are writing Lucky the same way making him look bad and Jason the hero again. At first I wanted Niz I'll admit but when JJ came back I wanted Liz with him. The closet scene should have been cut it's just nasty. Gh sure know how to ruin things that is way their ratings has fallen and will continue in my opinion.

Franco is not going to save them or JJ. What will in my opinion get rid of the problem that is frons and the rest of his crew. Bring families back show Liz with her boys more and let her meet someone new. Bring the Webbers and Spencers back instead of Alexis and her family I could care less about them except Molly I like Molly.

Well heading out to work I'll drop in later. Everyone have a nice Day and a safe one too.

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#6722   2009/11/06 07:10AM
Re: Liz Fans only ........... Please No Bashers Thanks!
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Quote meowbowow:
Quote hera: Hi everyone! I was thrilled that RH was on today, but I wish that it was longer. I am so glad that she visited Lulu. I guess with Lucky being in the field, he couldn't show up and I think that I am glad that he didn't. Imagine all of them in the same room with Luke! Yikes!

There have been lots of posted interviews with JJ. Some good stuff. JJ really gets that the last 10 years doesn't jive with LnL2 history and he doesn't give too much away but I get the feeling that he wants LnL2 to happen as well. I am sure that both JJ and RH want LnL2 to find their way back to each other.

Maybe I am projecting onto LnL2 my own hopes, but RH's Liz seems to radiate more since JJ returned. I always thought that RH was absolutely gorgeous and beautiful, but she just seems to glow nowadays. It gotta be because of JJ being back and the LnL2 love story getting back on track. Again is that wishful thinking on my part as a LnL2 supporter? I am a huge Audrey Hepburn and sometimes I look at RH and she has this very classy, old fashioned, sweet, kind aura about her, just like Audrey Hepburn. JJ also has that same aura. I think that that's what I find so appealing about JJ and RH together. There is something beautifully wholesome about the two of them. Both of them look like sweet, beautiful and kind people.

I am really hoping that Liz and Lucky appear on tomorrow's epi. I wonder if tomorrow's epi is going to be the one with Niz in the hospital supply closet and Lucky standing outside it talking to the mayor. Did anyone hear about Lucky giving Liz a ring or some kind of gift and a romantic evening coming up?


I for one never want LL2 again. Just b/c it's JJ playing the role again doesn't mean that Lucky still didn't do any of those awful things to her. IMO way too much water has gone under the bridge for these two to try it YET AGAIN. They couldn't make the last 2x work so I don't think 3rd time would be the charm either. It would also be appreciated if u didn't put spoilers in regular threads, thx!!


Hi meowbowow! I am sorry about putting spoilers in my comments.

As a huge LnL2 fan, I really struggle with the history of Lucky's horrible treatment of Liz, too many to list. I know what you mean about JJ now being back doesn't make all of that bad Lucky behavior go away. I know, I know ... I so want JJ to fix the mess of the last 3 years but it's unfair to place that kind of burden on an actor when the problem lies with the writing and the s/l that TPTB dictate. I feel that the last 2x didn't work because it wasn't JJ as Lucky. It makes no sense, I know, but I love JJ as Lucky so much that I can't help but feel that way.

I really want Liz to be happy and she does love Lucky very much. So I am hopeful that the TSW will fix Lucky and find a way to reunite them. Maybe all that spoiler talk about ending LnL2 was before JJ came back as Lucky and now the TSW/TPTB are trying to figure out how to do it.

#6723   2009/11/06 07:41AM
Re: Liz Fans only ........... Please No Bashers Thanks!
hera
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Quote lovelyliz: Good Morning!


Hera, I'm with you I don't want Liz back with Jason either. He has did too many things for me to ever want her to go back to him. If the rumors turn out to be true Liz go missing
and Jason finds her to me they are writing Lucky the same way making him look bad and Jason the hero again. At first I wanted Niz I'll admit but when JJ came back I wanted Liz with him. The closet scene should have been cut it's just nasty. Gh sure know how to ruin things that is way their ratings has fallen and will continue in my opinion.

Franco is not going to save them or JJ. What will in my opinion get rid of the problem that is frons and the rest of his crew. Bring families back show Liz with her boys more and let her meet someone new. Bring the Webbers and Spencers back instead of Alexis and her family I could care less about them except Molly I like Molly.

Well heading out to work I'll drop in later. Everyone have a nice Day and a safe one too.


Good morning!

I really don't want Jason back with Liz. The chemistry between them may be hot, but Jason's way of life and thinking is so at odds with Liz's. For them to get back together especially after what has happened with Michael and Claudia is ridiculous. Jason had a direct hand in Michael becoming a killer. Claudia's death was vicious and shocking, regardless of the question of whether Claudia deserved it or not.

I really hope that what you said in your post about Liz and Jason isn't going to happen. If it happens, I want Lucky to be the one to save Liz. TSW has got to see that Lucky being the one is the only choice that makes sense. Lucky was always saving Liz. Lucky was Liz's hero when LnL2 were teens. I don't understand why they brought back JJ as Lucky, only to end LnL2. Well, that s/l may have been thought-out and written before JJ returned. TSW's best option is to rehabilitate Lucky as a character, so that viewers could warm to the idea of another LnL2.

I agree that James Franco and JJ can't save GH unless GH has more of a balance of families and s/l. I doubt that Frons will be fired by ABC executives, but we do need a head writer who knows the craft of storytelling. Maybe ABC could bring back Claire Labine but that would probably be too controversial. As exciting as the mob stories may be for some viewers who want to see them all the time, there has to be more balance in stories. The writing tends to be uneven and sloppy at times. Characters with great potential come and go because of blotted s/l. We need more character driven s/l, instead of plot all the time. Again there has to be a balance of plot driven and character driven stories.

ITA that we need the Webber and Spencer families rebuilt. I think that TSW made a big mistake with killing Alan and Emily. The Davis family is not appealing to me. I don't really like Alexis unless she is with Diane. Kristina is not a likeable person and is so snarky that I have no sympathy for her. I don't even care that Kiefer is abusive towards Kristina. Molly, however, is a sweetheart.

The recent ratings for GH is terrible. It's falling past AMC which is now the top rated ABC soap. TPTB needs to stop making Jason the hero. The TSW needs to figure out a way to rehabilitate Lucky or JJ's return is going to be a disaster. Then another golden opportunity will be lost.

That upcoming Niz scene should have been cut but I guess the TSW want to humiliate Liz even more and make her look even more trashy. I find it outrageous that Jason saw Niz in the hospital corridor making out and then Luke on the docks/piers again seeing Niz making out. People who are having secret affairs don't do that. It's not realistic. it's just all plot driven that makes no sense. Ugh ... TSW needs to show more respect to Liz and Lucky and begin to write them properly.

#6724   2009/11/06 05:42PM
Re: Liz Fans only ........... Please No Bashers Thanks!
JASONandLIZf...
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my girl was on the 3rd page wtf? that aint right.

supporting rh always

#6725   2009/11/06 07:31PM
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Coming in to support the lovely RH....hoping to see the END of Niz soon...RH is too talented and beautiful to be wasted in such a horrible story...but I have to admit I love seeing her on screen...no matter what cr*p the idiots write for her

#6726   2009/11/06 08:18PM
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hera
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Me too showing my love for RH/Liz.

Only a minute today but it was worth it. She looked great as always. I liked her hair. I wish that we could have seen the full picture of Cam's drawing. I am missing Cam and Jake. When are they going to show the four of them together?

Next week is going to be great. Liz and LnL2 will be on every day, I believe, or maybe 4x next week. Lots of spoilers out there about our girl Liz. And there's a picture of LnL2 together floating around. It's a great picture of them together. I can't wait. Liz needs to be loved by a man who is madly in love with her, not lust which is what I think that she has with Nik. I don't mean to upset or offend any Niz supporters with that comment, but I don't think that Liz love Nik. It's more about lust and the excitement of danger with Nik.

I love it whenever RH/Liz in a scene, so I am very psyched for next week. Woo hoo!

Time for me to go to bed. Good night, everyone! Have a great weekend.

#6727   2009/11/06 09:05PM
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Coming into support Liz tonight. That explain it Liz was on a minute because when I went on youtube to see her scenes nothing came up. I'm like what happen because I knew she was going to be on today. I want LL2 but I want to see them some more interacting with each other and the kids because two scenes is not enough. What I have had enough of already is Jason and Lucky bonding. Well I watch the scene again. I guess I liked it because it was JJ. What a dark place PcPd.

I can't wait to next week to see how it goes. The mediapic of them all together at the table it must of been at the restaurant. I also can't believe Rebecca was not there.

Well just wanted to come in to give Liz my support. I hope she is on next week more than 2 seconds. Missing her. I missed her scenes today I don't know why it was not on You tube. Love that hair color on Becky and love her hair too.

Go Becky! The best actress Gh has in my opinion. Go Becky Go! Good-nite.

Oh one more thing did the closet scene happen? Maybe it was cut. Good-nite for sure. I hope Gh don't air it because it was suppose to be shown this week. Well going to bed for sure again. Good-nite.

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#6728   2009/11/07 06:28AM
Re: Liz Fans only ........... Please No Bashers Thanks!
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Good Morning! I got up today thinking about Liz and it dawn on me Liz has turn in to a beautiful woman. She has always been beautiful but lately she seem more so. she seem happier too. Didn't like the way Nic brush Liz off. I think their union together is coming to a close. They both now seem to resent each other. I guess that what lust does. I just don't want Liz to come between Nic and Lucky. But I guess that is too late. But it take two to tangle. Lucky will be mad at the both of them. Hopefully down the road he can forgive Liz and Nic.

I'm liking Liz this way boy was she looking good yesterday love her hair and why Jason kept looking out there he must of saw Liz and Nic. Liz has come in to her own to me.
I like the way they have been dressing her and her hair I can't say enough about that loving her hair and the color. I hope that scene was cut the closet scene. No offense to Jason but Liz seem happier and more sexier than she was with Jason but I know the writers did not want that with Liz to be sexy with Jason but oh is she sexy I think she the sexiest woman on GH. The first girl nite out prove that she was the sexiest that nite to me. Love that scene of her and Patrick. I hope Gh continue to show this sexy side of Liz & dress her in some more skirts love it. I'm glad what she is wearing clothes that compliments her shape. I say it is about time. They should have done this long ago for her. I just hope they keep it up. I hope is ok to discuss that if not I apologize.

Liz should go in to some kind of business of her own and maybe Nic and Lucky can help her or join her when all this stuff is settle. I would love to see Liz have some kind of business it would be a change for her then being at the Nurse station.

I love her makeup also it's just perfect. This is my opinion about all three gentlemen is:

Jason what can he offer Liz. To me at the time Jason did love Liz but he never did the things that a person would do for love. Of coarse he brought her art supplies, the house and a trip to Italy and propose to her but still not enough he did even give her a engagement ring. From their love it brought Jake. So glad Jake is Liz child & Luckys I hope he adopts him one day.
I'm not going to go in to the other things because everyone knows that he is wrong for going back to sam. All these things add up to me and I do not want Liz with him again.

Nic what can I say about him. Nic is a hypocrite to me. How can he sleep with Rebecca and turn around & want Liz. That to me is horrible. I like Nic though it is time for him to get over Rebecca and Em. Since she is leaving I wonder will they recast Em and bring her back. I do not like the sneaking around if they have feelings for each other go for it or let it go. I think Liz needs to move on because she is only lusting after Nic. What else do they have in common. I like Nic but I would not want Liz to be part of the Cassadine family. Well it is a new girl coming to town maybe Nic can court her. I like the scene of Niz yesterday it seem they are resenting each other now..I hope they regret their actions these two it would make it more better and will show Liz regretting it and hurting Lucky. I do not get some of Liz fans when they feel she should not of said that to Nic yesterday. I like what she said I saw nothing wrong with it both were being mean to each other but funny how some so called Liz fans calls her out on it but not Nic. To me they are not fans of hers u have to see both sides and I saw both sides & both are resenting each other and regretting it too. I hope their scene in the closet was cut. They need to hurry up with this s/l because Liz to me is the one getting all the blame.

Finally Lucky. To me this Lucky is playing Lucky a lot better so much so that I forget he is the one that cheated on Liz a lot of times and that can not be dismiss. I do not know if he is the man for Liz I have to see more to make that statement. I have only seen them twice together since he been back. I have to see him and Liz interact some and with the kids. At this moment I say he is because the things he says to her and the way he has treated her since JJ has taken over the role. The little things matter to me in a relationship and right off the bat he holds Liz hand, takes her out & takes her coat off for her. Rumor has it he suppose to give her an engagement ring something Jason never did or the writers did not want him to do. I hope that rumor comes true. I do feel it has been ten years the first scene both were nervous u can tell I saw it when he came to Liz house and I saw it again when both went to the haunted star. Hope it goes away for the both. I love this Lucky the the talk he gave Liz at the hospital. Lucky is a cool guy I love that about him. I hear different rumors some saying they going to be together and some saying they will end & they testing Lucky with maxie. That would not surprise me that is Gh pet maxie and sam. So no surprise there. Even if Liz don't be with him she will survide because she is a beautiful, intelligent, single woman that can take care of herself and her children she do not need Lucky, Jason or Nic. That is one thing I love about Liz character she can hook up with just about anyone on the show. I still love her and Patrick I hope one day they get together but I'm loving LL2 I hope they get a chance even with all the things they have done to each other it just seem that it does not matter. It seems like they just starting over again. That's how first loves are sometimes they meet up again and start over again. I'm liking where Liz is at now and hope she discover some more things about herself. I hope she continue to be happy, in love and keep her house. She should rent her house out she should not need any money that would bring an extra income for her and the kids if she decides to marry Lucky again. I like that Liz children are taken care of. If Liz and Lucky get back together I hope they have a child of their own a girl.

Well that is how I see the three men. If not one of them for Liz I hope she meets someone new. Sorry for the long post but I wanted give my opinion about these three guys. Go Liz! Love her. Have a nice day all.

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#6729   2009/11/07 08:18AM
Re: Liz Fans only ........... Please No Bashers Thanks!
JASONandLIZf...
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always supporting liz character..

#6730   2009/11/07 10:49AM
Re: Liz Fans only ........... Please No Bashers Thanks!
hera
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lovely liz - love your post. You made so many good observations. I especially like your critique of each of the men.

I agree that RH's Liz is looking more and more beautiful with each passing day. I have always thought that she was beautiful, in a very sweet, gorgeous, wholesome way. She has this kind face. She is someone who looks like would make a great, loyal friend. Her hair lovely. Her makeup looks flawless.

I was so happy when Liz was mean to Nik. I want to kick Nik's butt back to Greece. Liz is right that Nik shouldn't come to Lucky's place of work. She can and she was bringing Cam's coloring of the family. That makes sense that she would drop by for Lucky to have it. It will make his day, esp. after his conversation with Jason.

I really want to see Lucky with the boys and I agree that if LnL2 does work out, it would be great to see LnL2 have a girl together. How cute will she be!!! Lucky is such a great father. I loved the scenes when they used to go to the park for picnics. It's getting cold now in PC, so there won't be those park scenes now, but it would be great to see them sitting in the living room with a fire going, hanging out and talking with each other and playing with boys.

This is my suggestion for a possible s/l - Liz quits her nursing job, takes up painting full time, sets up a proper studio, opens a gallery business and sells her art pieces and other art pieces. Liz becomes friends with Kate and they become business partners. Kate with all her high fashion friends would be great at promoting Liz's artwork. Liz becomes a famous painter. She gets to travel to Italy regularly and Lucky full supports her new art career. When they have openings at Liz's gallery, Lucky sings for all the guests. What do you think? Don't you see that working?

Per my previous posts, my position on who Liz should be with is pretty clear. Nik and Jason are just so wrong for Liz. I have nothing to say beyond that.

Lucky seems to be the one for me because of his "I don't want perfection. I want you" speech. That one did for me. It knocked me for a loop because it was so unexpected. It was so heartfelt, sincere and impassioned. It has an effect on Liz as well. And the way he didn't push Liz to make love to him also.


************ SPOILER TALK ***************************

I have seen that picture of LnL2 sitting in a restaurant. I also saw another picture of LnL2 and Niz sitting at the same table, but Lucky is blocking the view of Rebecca. I think that this must be the scene that you are talking about re. the engagement ring when Lucky gives it to Liz. Then there's the pic with LnL2 basking in the afterglow that is floating around. I have a feeling that the Niz in the hospital supple closet won't be cut, although I really hope so. It's just too uncomfortable to contemplate watching.


*********** SPOILER TALK ENDS **********************


There is so much LnL2 spoiler talk that it's making my head spin. It seems that the LnL2/Niz s/l is kicking up a couple of gears and going front burner now. Woo hoo!!! That means more Liz scenes!! RH does tears so well. Both she and JJ can turn on the water works, so it's going to be amazing. I am just beside myself with excitement!

#6731   2009/11/07 02:20PM
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Well I would not mind if Liz went in her own business but I wish it was with anyone but Kate. I guess I'm not a fan of hers too much. Liz should either open a art gallery like Linsey did on OLTL or design clothes. That would be wonderful for Lucky to support Liz in her opening of her gallery and he sings for the guests. We think alike Hera. Only if Gh does that I would be so happy. Somehow I want Gh to bring Lucky guitar on the show and sing his heart out to Liz. I want to hear him sing to Elizabeth. Sing that song he wrote for her his Elizabeth. I can't wait.

#6732   2009/11/07 02:33PM
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Just wondering where one of my fav Liz fans is, Rainstormraider.

Oh and yes still ♥ Liz even if she is lying and cheating on "new" and improved Lucky. She's been falling into old habits trying to make herself want and accept her pending marriage to Lucky.

Still not feeling Lik at all either. At least RH will be getting more airtime out of this. I just hope JJ's Lucky doesn't bring even more Liz haters out of the woodwork.

#6733   2009/11/07 02:42PM
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Quote lemone: Just wondering where one of my fav Liz fans is, Rainstormraider.

Oh and yes still ♥ Liz even if she is lying and cheating on "new" and improved Lucky. She's been falling into old habits trying to make herself want and accept her pending marriage to Lucky.

Still not feeling Lik at all either. At least RH will be getting more airtime out of this. I just hope JJ's Lucky doesn't bring even more Liz haters out of the woodwork.


I think he already have brought more haters to Liz and this story line don't help either. I just don't understand some they are ready to harp on Liz weakness but Luckys is overlooked since JJ came back. WTF. Then there are the so called Liz fans to me they are not because if u really were her fan like I'am she could do no wrong. People seem to forget that he cheated on Liz first with Liz sister and with Maxie. They were not teenagers than so I do not care if JJ is playing the part it still applies to the character. I like JJ but he have his faults too. They should be judge equally in my eyes but like always Liz is blame for every freaking thing.

#6734   2009/11/07 02:53PM
Re: Liz Fans only ........... Please No Bashers Thanks!
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Quote lovelyliz:
Quote lemone: Just wondering where one of my fav Liz fans is, Rainstormraider.

Oh and yes still ♥ Liz even if she is lying and cheating on "new" and improved Lucky. She's been falling into old habits trying to make herself want and accept her pending marriage to Lucky.

Still not feeling Lik at all either. At least RH will be getting more airtime out of this. I just hope JJ's Lucky doesn't bring even more Liz haters out of the woodwork.


I think he already have brought more haters to Liz and this story line don't help either. I just don't understand some they are ready to harp on Liz weakness but Luckys is overlooked since JJ came back. WTF. Then there are the so called Liz fans to me they are not because if u really were her fan like I'am she could do no wrong. People seem to forget that he cheated on Liz first with Liz sister and with Maxie. They were not teenagers than so I do not care if JJ is playing the part it still applies to the character. I like JJ but he have his faults too. They should be judge equally in my eyes but like always Liz is blame for every freaking thing.


I think you can still be a true fan of a character even if you do think the character has done wrong.

With JJ coming on, plus tptb having Lucky not be a schmuck - Liz will be doubly hated for the hurt she will cause him.

#6735   2009/11/07 02:55PM
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I liked Kate when she first came on and was a Kate fan until they ruined her. I liked that she was sophisticated, intelligent and had style. I thought that TSW could have made her a female Ralph Lauren who changed his name and he was from a working class neighborhood in the Bronx as was Calvin Klein. They didn't have to have Kate hide her Bensonhurst background, making it seem that she was ashamed of her family. It could have been so much fun to have Kate integrate her Kate and her Connie personalities. Connie was actually a really sweet girl who had dreams. They dropped the ball on that one. Kate was shot twice, poisoned and nearly drown and I thought that she showed alot of grace towards Michael whom she saved from drowning. Then he accidentally shoots Kate and never apologizes for it. Blah! Kate had the potential to be a great female character that wasn't a mob queen or a medical professional or lawyer.

I think that Liz and Kate could have been friends because Kate could relate to someone else having creative dreams. Kate could help Liz fulfill her dream to be a painter. Anyway, that ship has sailed and I don't see TSW bringing Kate back unless they take her into a new direction, but I don't see it. What a waste of another good character.

Forgetting about that for now - yeah, can't you see it - Lucky singing his music while Liz is showing off her paintings.

TSW should have Liz reference Lucky's singing/music, how he hasn't been pursuing his music for years now, how she hasn't been painting much, and have them start a conversation about how over the years they have been so caught up with other stuff that they have forgotten about their respective dreams of painting and music. Get Liz all nostalgic and have her take stock of her life, look at where she is in her life now, though she is happy with her two boys, it wasn't what she had expected or dreamed about. This kind of conversation between LnL2 could get them to talk about all the past mistakes that they have made and how they need to make some big changes in their lives and relationship.

I was thinking about how episodes air one month after they have been taped. I don't know how many weeks in advance scripts are written, but there has to be at least one month's worth of episodes in the can now. Since TSW knew that JJ was coming back in September, one month before he showed up on October 1st for his first scenes which were air at the end of October, I am thinking that any changes to the LnL2 s/l won't show up until December if you follow me. My point being that if TSW decided to break up LnL2 and have the Cassadines come into the story causing problems, it is possible that Lucky could be Liz's hero, not Jason. TSW could change the story to suit JJ. I can't see JJ accepting Lucky not being Liz's hero because that would be out of character for Lucky and I could see JJ discussing this with TSW. Not that actors can get an audience with TSW or executive producers, but I can't imagine that JJ wouldn't put a word in about Lucky's character development. Just a thought. All of this is reiterate my love for LnL2.

Hey, wouldn't it be great if Lucky sings to Liz on the night that he gives her the engagement ring or would that be too contrived? I am thinking that Lucky does something besides give her a ring to melt her heart. And the singing popped into my head.

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