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JASON Fans ONLY Thread

Started by liasonliveson at 2007/09/16 09:19PM
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#7461   2009/10/25 03:11PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
katie28
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Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28: J09- i can simplify everything for you very easily in regards to jason. the truth is... the whole truth.... people are upset because jason is with sam. that's the bottom line... because i know.... I DEFINITELY WITHOUT A DOUBT KNOW that if jason were doing all of these "ooc" things, but he was still with elizabeth... there would be no debate. there would be NO... jason is so ooc... he must be jerry or on drugs. that's it. it's a fact. and it doesn't matter to me what anyone says about my comment, because i, like many other posters on this board... KNOW THIS IS TRUE!


That seems like a scapegoat comment don't you think? Don't discuss anything let's just make it all about Sam? "I" personally have stated MANY TIMES that if Jason was acting this way IF with Liz, I STILL would have HUGE issue with it! Do I think that Jason being with Sam is part of his OOC well YES because of things that Sam HERSELF did and how Jason has always been, not JUST BECAUSE she's Sam! There weren't these HUGE debates when Jason was with Sam before because before Sam HADN'T betrayed Jason in this way but she DID so NOW there are debates.

How can you even make a statement like that and say IT IS TRUE when in fact it's what YOU think, not necessarily what others KNOW? The fact that you are speaking for hundreds of thousands of people I think you are thinking too much of yourself and what YOU THINK because you have NO IDEA how all those people think and while there may be some that DO think that way, I would say the ratio, just from who I've talked to from this board itself, is 98% don't think that way. As for the others that think as you do, they too are ALSO completely wrong!

If you want to THINK THAT, go right ahead but please don't say "that's how it is" when you have NO IDEA how it is.


i go by what i read... by you... and by others. it's MY FACT.

#7462   2009/10/25 03:13PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
katie28
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Quote Wishing4Liason:
Quote katie28: J09- i can simplify everything for you very easily in regards to jason. the truth is... the whole truth.... people are upset because jason is with sam. that's the bottom line... because i know.... I DEFINITELY WITHOUT A DOUBT KNOW that if jason were doing all of these "ooc" things, but he was still with elizabeth... there would be no debate. there would be NO... jason is so ooc... he must be jerry or on drugs. that's it. it's a fact. and it doesn't matter to me what anyone says about my comment, because i, like many other posters on this board... KNOW THIS IS TRUE!


I can see why you may feel this way Katie and can also agree that there may be some people that may find Jason out of character because of who he is paired with but your statement is all about "knowing" wording it as that is why MOST if NOT all have an issue with Jason...You and some others may have that opinion but that is all that really is!! It is an opinion NOT a fact!!

Just because I like a certain pair doesn't mean I am blinded or my objectivity is lost because it...overall I am a Jason fan...I have enjoyed almost every single relationship that Jason has been in even if it wasn't my first choice!!

There have been things I like about Jason and others that I don't care for, but the bottom line for me was there was some sort of staples of Jason's core, I could at least "follow" and get why he made the choices he did!!

If Jason was making some of the decisions he is regardless of who he is with or even by himself, I would have to question the way the character is NOW being written!!


i still see people NOT LOOKING at the whole picture and seeing what they want to see. that's all there is to it. it may not be YOUR fact, but again, i go by what i read.

#7463   2009/10/25 03:15PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
katie28
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Quote onlygh: I never post in here. Hello Jason fans!

I like SuperJase just fine; I believe he's being written pretty much exactly the same as he's always been written...no hint of OOCitis there, IMHO. I would just like to note that he should receive some kind of medal (big, bright and shiny) for going after Claudia like a rabid dog. I, for one, am delighted by his tireless pursuit of this vile character and I could care less what his motives are. He probably feels the same way a lot of us on the board do...he just thinks she's horrid and Port Chuck would be better off without her.


only- to be honest... it is your opinion, and other posters like yourself that i respect the most. you are not clouded by anything. (as i can be) and you see things for what they are...without any extra nonsense. you look at the soap for what it is... a soap. and i agree... port charles would be much better without claudia!

#7464   2009/10/25 03:17PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
katie28
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oh, and one of the main reasons that i say jason is not OOC with this whole claudia thing is because i have seen him... MANY TIMES... obsess over who did what to whom. with aj, faith, lorenzo, ian.... the list goes on and on. he is always, as cincy put it, like a rabid dog when it comes to the people he cares about.

#7465   2009/10/25 03:20PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
Jasam09
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Quote onlygh: I never post in here. Hello Jason fans!

I like SuperJase just fine; I believe he's being written pretty much exactly the same as he's always been written...no hint of OOCitis there, IMHO. I would just like to note that he should receive some kind of medal (big, bright and shiny) for going after Claudia like a rabid dog. I, for one, am delighted by his tireless pursuit of this vile character and I could care less what his motives are. He probably feels the same way a lot of us on the board do...he just thinks she's horrid and Port Chuck would be better off without her.


What an absolutely REFRESHING post. I too, am not into this whole OOC thing/debate/whatever you want to call it, and I'm glad to see others who agree. And you're right, Jason has every right to go after CLAWS. Its not like she doesn't deserve it. I for one would be confused if wasn't reacting the way he is. This woman has been lying for more than a year. All she does is cover up something that Jason has been tirelessly trying to solve for the same amount of time. This is the first time in so long where leads are actually working towards something, and now he has PROOF that completely corroborates his instincts. Yeah he's angry sometimes, but he has been angry before. On top of that, at least we are not the only ones noticing his level of fury. Spinelli has, Sam has, and they have both spoken up about. The other day Jason was seriously exhibiting confirmation bias. This is when people look for information that will confirm their theories, while ignoring the information that will refute it. Although his initial instincts were correct, he was still looking for something that he wasn't sure was there. At that point, Spinelli called him out on it, and then Sam did too. So, I think that is a step in the right direction.

Again, Claudia deserves it, so I'm not so broken up about Jason being angry.

#7466   2009/10/25 03:39PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
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okay...there is a fanfic out there...its a liason fan fic but it's about Madea (Tyler Perry) being Epiphany's mother.

Well, I HAVE to read it (because it screams funny) but I keep getting these ideas in my head if Jason Morgan were to have to deal with Madea Simmons

Can you imagine?

ROTFLMAO

#7467   2009/10/25 03:41PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
katie28
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Quote alikat: okay...there is a fanfic out there...its a liason fan fic but it's about Madea (Tyler Perry) being Epiphany's mother.

Well, I HAVE to read it (because it screams funny) but I keep getting these ideas in my head if Jason Morgan were to have to deal with Madea Simmons

Can you imagine?

ROTFLMAO


that would be hysterical!

#7468   2009/10/25 03:48PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
Wishing4Liason
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Oh yes I think there are people that ONLY see what they want to see..NOT really sure what that fact has to do with anything unless you are saying that people can't be objective either can be rather presumptuous!!

Ah and you bring up Faith, Lorenzo, Ian (which by the way had to do with Jason working off of Sonny's orders)..AJ again was Sonny and Carly had been a part of...again though I think many are missing the point of WHY people like myself have an issue with Jason in the whole Claudia mess and find him either hypocritical or out of character...I personally find him hypocritical in THIS particular s/l because he has Sam connected at his hip while doing it!! Katie you brought up those other people and again while I get and can understand Jason being mad because he is protective over those he holds dear, GH wants the best of both worlds when it doesn't work for many...Obviously for SOME it works..But for others it does NOT...Is Jason the Jason of old that does NOT stand for people to go after his loved ones, and if you do there will be consequences (consequences for those that are closer to him are usually harsher than those that are NOT) or is Jason NOW someone that is willingly to let bygones be bygones?? Cause Jason at this point should just warn Claudia NOT to mess with his loved ones again and go on his merry way!! Especially since the person that actually pulled the trigger Ian is dead!!

Katie you go by what you read can also be the result of INTERPRETATION!! But whatever we can go back and forth on what YOU FEEL is FACT...in the end that is just what YOU believe and are entitled to your OPINIONS!!

#7469   2009/10/25 04:10PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
katie28
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Quote Wishing4Liason: Oh yes I think there are people that ONLY see what they want to see..NOT really sure what that fact has to do with anything unless you are saying that people can't be objective either can be rather presumptuous!!

Ah and you bring up Faith, Lorenzo, Ian (which by the way had to do with Jason working off of Sonny's orders)..AJ again was Sonny and Carly had been a part of...again though I think many are missing the point of WHY people like myself have an issue with Jason in the whole Claudia mess and find him either hypocritical or out of character...I personally find him hypocritical in THIS particular s/l because he has Sam connected at his hip while doing it!! Katie you brought up those other people and again while I get and can understand Jason being mad because he is protective over those he holds dear, GH wants the best of both worlds when it doesn't work for many...Obviously for SOME it works..But for others it does NOT...Is Jason the Jason of old that does NOT stand for people to go after his loved ones, and if you do there will be consequences (consequences for those that are closer to him are usually harsher than those that are NOT) or is Jason NOW someone that is willingly to let bygones be bygones?? Cause Jason at this point should just warn Claudia NOT to mess with his loved ones again and go on his merry way!! Especially since the person that actually pulled the trigger Ian is dead!!

Katie you go by what you read can also be the result of INTERPRETATION!! But whatever we can go back and forth on what YOU FEEL is FACT...in the end that is just what YOU believe and are entitled to your OPINIONS!!


wishing- i have stated that jason is getting a bit carried away with the whole claudia thing, however, this is not the first time... nor the last time he will go against sonny.

also, it all boils down to claudia and sam. for me, sam is nothing like claudia. sam actually owned up to her mistakes. she apologized... YEARS LATER... she didn't come up with new ways to hide what she had done. also, she has proven herself to be a good person... there for her sisters, and there for spinelli... and many other people including jason. claudia just uses people and PRETENDS to care....just to hide the fact that she was responsible for michael's shooting. i am not going to focus on things that sam did over 2 years ago. what matters is how she has come out of those mistakes.... and obviously, jason knows sam and knows that they were just that... mistakes. if i focused on what every character did 2+ years ago... and if the writers did... the soap would go nowhere.

i'm not saying that you or anyone else is wrong for feeling the way you do. however, it does boil down to... as you stated above... that jason is with sam... and in your eyes.. that makes him hypocritical. so, my point has been proven. it is about him being with sam.

#7470   2009/10/25 04:18PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
dalal01
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Quote katie28:
Quote Wishing4Liason: Oh yes I think there are people that ONLY see what they want to see..NOT really sure what that fact has to do with anything unless you are saying that people can't be objective either can be rather presumptuous!!

Ah and you bring up Faith, Lorenzo, Ian (which by the way had to do with Jason working off of Sonny's orders)..AJ again was Sonny and Carly had been a part of...again though I think many are missing the point of WHY people like myself have an issue with Jason in the whole Claudia mess and find him either hypocritical or out of character...I personally find him hypocritical in THIS particular s/l because he has Sam connected at his hip while doing it!! Katie you brought up those other people and again while I get and can understand Jason being mad because he is protective over those he holds dear, GH wants the best of both worlds when it doesn't work for many...Obviously for SOME it works..But for others it does NOT...Is Jason the Jason of old that does NOT stand for people to go after his loved ones, and if you do there will be consequences (consequences for those that are closer to him are usually harsher than those that are NOT) or is Jason NOW someone that is willingly to let bygones be bygones?? Cause Jason at this point should just warn Claudia NOT to mess with his loved ones again and go on his merry way!! Especially since the person that actually pulled the trigger Ian is dead!!

Katie you go by what you read can also be the result of INTERPRETATION!! But whatever we can go back and forth on what YOU FEEL is FACT...in the end that is just what YOU believe and are entitled to your OPINIONS!!


wishing- i have stated that jason is getting a bit carried away with the whole claudia thing, however, this is not the first time... nor the last time he will go against sonny.

also, it all boils down to claudia and sam. for me, sam is nothing like claudia. sam actually owned up to her mistakes. she apologized... YEARS LATER... she didn't come up with new ways to hide what she had done. also, she has proven herself to be a good person... there for her sisters, and there for spinelli... and many other people including jason. claudia just uses people and PRETENDS to care....just to hide the fact that she was responsible for michael's shooting. i am not going to focus on things that sam did over 2 years ago. what matters is how she has come out of those mistakes.... and obviously, jason knows sam and knows that they were just that... mistakes. if i focused on what every character did 2+ years ago... and if the writers did... the soap would go nowhere.

i'm not saying that you or anyone else is wrong for feeling the way you do. however, it does boil down to... as you stated above... that jason is with sam... and in your eyes.. that makes him hypocritical. so, my point has been proven. it is about him being with sam.



So I guess I'm not banned anymore, cuz its letting me post. But Katie, I applaud you. I dont even know why you bother. LOL. Anyways, I agree, Sam has owned up to all of her mistakes, and obviously Jason has gotten passed it. Oh and has anyone put thought, maybe Sam should have forgave Jason too? I mean it goes both ways, they both screwed up and gotten passed it.

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#7471   2009/10/25 04:26PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
Jasam09
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Quote dalal01:
Quote katie28:
Quote Wishing4Liason: Oh yes I think there are people that ONLY see what they want to see..NOT really sure what that fact has to do with anything unless you are saying that people can't be objective either can be rather presumptuous!!

Ah and you bring up Faith, Lorenzo, Ian (which by the way had to do with Jason working off of Sonny's orders)..AJ again was Sonny and Carly had been a part of...again though I think many are missing the point of WHY people like myself have an issue with Jason in the whole Claudia mess and find him either hypocritical or out of character...I personally find him hypocritical in THIS particular s/l because he has Sam connected at his hip while doing it!! Katie you brought up those other people and again while I get and can understand Jason being mad because he is protective over those he holds dear, GH wants the best of both worlds when it doesn't work for many...Obviously for SOME it works..But for others it does NOT...Is Jason the Jason of old that does NOT stand for people to go after his loved ones, and if you do there will be consequences (consequences for those that are closer to him are usually harsher than those that are NOT) or is Jason NOW someone that is willingly to let bygones be bygones?? Cause Jason at this point should just warn Claudia NOT to mess with his loved ones again and go on his merry way!! Especially since the person that actually pulled the trigger Ian is dead!!

Katie you go by what you read can also be the result of INTERPRETATION!! But whatever we can go back and forth on what YOU FEEL is FACT...in the end that is just what YOU believe and are entitled to your OPINIONS!!


wishing- i have stated that jason is getting a bit carried away with the whole claudia thing, however, this is not the first time... nor the last time he will go against sonny.

also, it all boils down to claudia and sam. for me, sam is nothing like claudia. sam actually owned up to her mistakes. she apologized... YEARS LATER... she didn't come up with new ways to hide what she had done. also, she has proven herself to be a good person... there for her sisters, and there for spinelli... and many other people including jason. claudia just uses people and PRETENDS to care....just to hide the fact that she was responsible for michael's shooting. i am not going to focus on things that sam did over 2 years ago. what matters is how she has come out of those mistakes.... and obviously, jason knows sam and knows that they were just that... mistakes. if i focused on what every character did 2+ years ago... and if the writers did... the soap would go nowhere.

i'm not saying that you or anyone else is wrong for feeling the way you do. however, it does boil down to... as you stated above... that jason is with sam... and in your eyes.. that makes him hypocritical. so, my point has been proven. it is about him being with sam.



So I guess I'm not banned anymore, cuz its letting me post. But Katie, I applaud you. I dont even know why you bother. LOL. Anyways, I agree, Sam has owned up to all of her mistakes, and obviously Jason has gotten passed it. Oh and has anyone put thought, maybe Sam should have forgave Jason too? I mean it goes both ways, they both screwed up and gotten passed it.


I completely agree. There are definitely things that Jason needs forgiveness for. I think that is why the reunion happened the way it did. With him going after her, and not the other way around, and in a way that demonstrated her resistance or apprehension. He did things that brought about EVERYTHING that happened. He started all of it the moment he walked away from her when she got shot. So, you're right, we are always talking about how we all have forgiven Sam, or some of need to forgive Sam, or some of us will never forgive Sam. But what about Jason? He's not a saint in all this.

#7472   2009/10/25 04:34PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
dalal01
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Quote Jasam09:
Quote dalal01:
Quote katie28:
Quote Wishing4Liason: Oh yes I think there are people that ONLY see what they want to see..NOT really sure what that fact has to do with anything unless you are saying that people can't be objective either can be rather presumptuous!!

Ah and you bring up Faith, Lorenzo, Ian (which by the way had to do with Jason working off of Sonny's orders)..AJ again was Sonny and Carly had been a part of...again though I think many are missing the point of WHY people like myself have an issue with Jason in the whole Claudia mess and find him either hypocritical or out of character...I personally find him hypocritical in THIS particular s/l because he has Sam connected at his hip while doing it!! Katie you brought up those other people and again while I get and can understand Jason being mad because he is protective over those he holds dear, GH wants the best of both worlds when it doesn't work for many...Obviously for SOME it works..But for others it does NOT...Is Jason the Jason of old that does NOT stand for people to go after his loved ones, and if you do there will be consequences (consequences for those that are closer to him are usually harsher than those that are NOT) or is Jason NOW someone that is willingly to let bygones be bygones?? Cause Jason at this point should just warn Claudia NOT to mess with his loved ones again and go on his merry way!! Especially since the person that actually pulled the trigger Ian is dead!!

Katie you go by what you read can also be the result of INTERPRETATION!! But whatever we can go back and forth on what YOU FEEL is FACT...in the end that is just what YOU believe and are entitled to your OPINIONS!!


wishing- i have stated that jason is getting a bit carried away with the whole claudia thing, however, this is not the first time... nor the last time he will go against sonny.

also, it all boils down to claudia and sam. for me, sam is nothing like claudia. sam actually owned up to her mistakes. she apologized... YEARS LATER... she didn't come up with new ways to hide what she had done. also, she has proven herself to be a good person... there for her sisters, and there for spinelli... and many other people including jason. claudia just uses people and PRETENDS to care....just to hide the fact that she was responsible for michael's shooting. i am not going to focus on things that sam did over 2 years ago. what matters is how she has come out of those mistakes.... and obviously, jason knows sam and knows that they were just that... mistakes. if i focused on what every character did 2+ years ago... and if the writers did... the soap would go nowhere.

i'm not saying that you or anyone else is wrong for feeling the way you do. however, it does boil down to... as you stated above... that jason is with sam... and in your eyes.. that makes him hypocritical. so, my point has been proven. it is about him being with sam.



So I guess I'm not banned anymore, cuz its letting me post. But Katie, I applaud you. I dont even know why you bother. LOL. Anyways, I agree, Sam has owned up to all of her mistakes, and obviously Jason has gotten passed it. Oh and has anyone put thought, maybe Sam should have forgave Jason too? I mean it goes both ways, they both screwed up and gotten passed it.


I completely agree. There are definitely things that Jason needs forgiveness for. I think that is why the reunion happened the way it did. With him going after her, and not the other way around, and in a way that demonstrated her resistance or apprehension. He did things that brought about EVERYTHING that happened. He started all of it the moment he walked away from her when she got shot. So, you're right, we are always talking about how we all have forgiven Sam, or some of need to forgive Sam, or some of us will never forgive Sam. But what about Jason? He's not a saint in all this.



My point is exactly. And that's exactly why I am loving this reunion even more because he is doing the chasing. Just like he should!

#7473   2009/10/25 08:47PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
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What chasing?! When said person is at the PH 24/7 referencing to see Spinelli when she works with the guy at the same office ... I wonder if it is stalking or "chasing". I would say playing coy!

Anyway ... Rather than calling out or generalizing FANS and FANBASES, as some have done to "justify" or "excuse" their so called argument ... I will only list the REASONs why Jason fans have a hard time swallowing the horse manure GH is shoving at us right now. What I am listing are only things that DIRECTLY CONCERN JASON ... nothing previous (although there are more misdeeds).


Sam McCall (Con Artist, "PI apprentice")

A single and free Jason Morgan fathered a child with Elizabeth Webber. Sam found out she was not able to have children herself and her response was:

1) Lied and tried to manipulate Jason into telling her he fathered a child
2) Watched infant Jake (Jason's son) kidnapped by a mentally unstable woman from the park.
3 ) Sam claimed she "froze", but lied to the police and Jason about knowing Jake's whereabouts
4) Further impeded the investigation for Jake's disappearance by pointing the finger at Elizabeth indicating that she had something to do with his disappearance
5) Lucky and Elizabeth begged her to allow them on her TV show to plea for Jake's return and she refused them
6) She tried to deter Spinelli from helping and even sought legal advice from Alexis to see what would happen if her part in Jake's disappearance came out
7) Also, while Jake was missing she taunted the parents that their child may in fact be dead
8 ) When Jason found out Sam knew where Jake was he confronted her. She showed NO remorse and blamed Jason for her actions
9) Sam later hired two gunmen to hold Elizabeth and her two children at gun point in the middle of the park they walked through
10) When Jason found out he confronted Sam, who once again has NO remorse and claimed that she did Jason a "favor". His response was the infamous line "I will kill you" (8/27/07)
11) She continued to taunt Jason about Jake, saying that he was a bad influence and that if anyone was going to get Jake killed it would be him.
12) She knew Jake's paternity was a secret to keep him safe yet she told said secret to Carly Jacks.
13) She also threatened to turn Elizabeth, Jason's girlfriend/Mother of his child, into the police for a crime she didn't commit
14) Overall, Sam used and targeted a child and his mother instead of directly confronting the man she felt responsible for her plight

Yea ... and yet ppl think we are missing the bigger picture... rather I think I am one of the few actually seeing the bigger picture.

If you don't like my post, move on ... I am not get into the back / forth or some bait!

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#7474   2009/10/25 09:02PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
Jasam09
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Quote esprit: What chasing?! When said person is at the PH 24/7 referencing to see Spinelli when she works with the guy at the same office ... I wonder if it is stalking or "chasing". I would say playing coy!

Anyway ... Rather than calling out or generalizing FANS and FANBASES, as some have done to "justify" or "excuse" their so called argument ... I will only list the REASONs why Jason fans have a hard time swallowing the horse manure GH is shoving at us right now. What I am listing are only things that DIRECTLY CONCERN JASON ... nothing previous (although there are more misdeeds).


Sam McCall (Con Artist, "PI apprentice")

A single and free Jason Morgan fathered a child with Elizabeth Webber. Sam found out she was not able to have children herself and her response was:

1) Lied and tried to manipulate Jason into telling her he fathered a child
2) Watched infant Jake (Jason's son) kidnapped by a mentally unstable woman from the park.
3 ) Sam claimed she "froze", but lied to the police and Jason about knowing Jake's whereabouts
4) Further impeded the investigation for Jake's disappearance by pointing the finger at Elizabeth indicating that she had something to do with his disappearance
5) Lucky and Elizabeth begged her to allow them on her TV show to plea for Jake's return and she refused them
6) She tried to deter Spinelli from helping and even sought legal advice from Alexis to see what would happen if her part in Jake's disappearance came out
7) Also, while Jake was missing she taunted the parents that their child may in fact be dead
8 ) When Jason found out Sam knew where Jake was he confronted her. She showed NO remorse and blamed Jason for her actions
9) Sam later hired two gunmen to hold Elizabeth and her two children at gun point in the middle of the park they walked through
10) When Jason found out he confronted Sam, who once again has NO remorse and claimed that she did Jason a "favor". His response was the infamous line "I will kill you" (8/27/07)
11) She continued to taunt Jason about Jake, saying that he was a bad influence and that if anyone was going to get Jake killed it would be him.
12) She knew Jake's paternity was a secret to keep him safe yet she told said secret to Carly Jacks.
13) She also threatened to turn Elizabeth, Jason's girlfriend/Mother of his child, into the police for a crime she didn't commit
14) Overall, Sam used and targeted a child and his mother instead of directly confronting the man she felt responsible for her plight

Yea ... and yet ppl think we are missing the bigger picture... rather I think I am one of the few actually seeing the bigger picture.

If you don't like my post, move on ... I am not get into the back / forth or some bait!


I still am not sure what your intention is in posting this. I'm not going to talk about the specific plot details, because I have no interest in doing that, but I just don't understand why you would want to bring all of these things up when we have heard all of them a million times. You are completely entitled to your opinion, and I'm not trying to shoot down your argument, because you are frankly allowed to post whatever you please, but I still don't see why its necessary to drudge up all of this stuff when it could stay in the past. The characters have MOVED ON. Why can't WE?

I know you are trying to understand why Jason is with this woman when she did all these things, but why state them in such a way that ignores the fact that she has been redeemed? Maybe she hasn't in your eyes, but in the eyes of the writers and the rest of the characters.

And you say you are not going to get into a back and forth bait, but posting this does EXACTLY that. Again, I'm not going to go any further than express my confusion over the necessity of this post. But that is just my opinion. You can obviously do what you want. Okay, thats all I'm going to say.

#7475   2009/10/25 10:24PM
Re: JASON Fans ONLY Thread
dalal01
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Quote esprit: What chasing?! When said person is at the PH 24/7 referencing to see Spinelli when she works with the guy at the same office ... I wonder if it is stalking or "chasing". I would say playing coy!

Anyway ... Rather than calling out or generalizing FANS and FANBASES, as some have done to "justify" or "excuse" their so called argument ... I will only list the REASONs why Jason fans have a hard time swallowing the horse manure GH is shoving at us right now. What I am listing are only things that DIRECTLY CONCERN JASON ... nothing previous (although there are more misdeeds).


Sam McCall (Con Artist, "PI apprentice")

A single and free Jason Morgan fathered a child with Elizabeth Webber. Sam found out she was not able to have children herself and her response was:

1) Lied and tried to manipulate Jason into telling her he fathered a child
2) Watched infant Jake (Jason's son) kidnapped by a mentally unstable woman from the park.
3 ) Sam claimed she "froze", but lied to the police and Jason about knowing Jake's whereabouts
4) Further impeded the investigation for Jake's disappearance by pointing the finger at Elizabeth indicating that she had something to do with his disappearance
5) Lucky and Elizabeth begged her to allow them on her TV show to plea for Jake's return and she refused them
6) She tried to deter Spinelli from helping and even sought legal advice from Alexis to see what would happen if her part in Jake's disappearance came out
7) Also, while Jake was missing she taunted the parents that their child may in fact be dead
8 ) When Jason found out Sam knew where Jake was he confronted her. She showed NO remorse and blamed Jason for her actions
9) Sam later hired two gunmen to hold Elizabeth and her two children at gun point in the middle of the park they walked through
10) When Jason found out he confronted Sam, who once again has NO remorse and claimed that she did Jason a "favor". His response was the infamous line "I will kill you" (8/27/07)
11) She continued to taunt Jason about Jake, saying that he was a bad influence and that if anyone was going to get Jake killed it would be him.
12) She knew Jake's paternity was a secret to keep him safe yet she told said secret to Carly Jacks.
13) She also threatened to turn Elizabeth, Jason's girlfriend/Mother of his child, into the police for a crime she didn't commit
14) Overall, Sam used and targeted a child and his mother instead of directly confronting the man she felt responsible for her plight

Yea ... and yet ppl think we are missing the bigger picture... rather I think I am one of the few actually seeing the bigger picture.

If you don't like my post, move on ... I am not get into the back / forth or some bait!


I should've know what the he!! i was getting myself into when I said that. First off, Jason is the one pursuing Sam more. Its obvious. Maybe were not watching the same show or something?

Secondly, I don't know why you gave me a rap sheet about Sam, that was so irrelevant to what I was talking about. And nobody is innocent on a soap, so maybe you should go check out what Liz has done.

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