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I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!

Started by bigtimesoapfan at 2009/11/06 06:17AM
Latest post: 2009/11/08 08:12AM, Views: 710, Replies: 32
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#11   2009/11/06 12:03PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
katie28
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: Some of it? All of it directly leads back to him!! He put this in motion!! When he bought a gun played with it and left Kate for dead!! This(imo)is yet another time he did wrong and basically got off scott free!! and all they are teaching him is to be another Jason!! Im sorry but I want M's actions(including shooting Kate to come out) he needs to learn that NO ONE is above the law!! Not even the Corinthos'!! and all our actions have consequences whether they may be good or bad, we have to live with them!! IMO what they are creating in Micheal is a psychopath!!


okay, i am stopping at this post to respond. how exactly is it that you can blame a CHILD, because that is what michael was when he ACCIDENTALLY shot kate...a child.. for being brought up in a world of violence?? it is not his fault that his mother chose to be with sonny. it is not his fault that sonny is a mobster. it is not his fault that he is around all that death and violence. it is the parents' fault. that's a reality.

#12   2009/11/06 12:05PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
katie28
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Quote genhospchat: Sonny and Carly are to blame for how Michael is and what lead up to these events and AGAIN are protecting/covering up for him from something HE did. Since neither is ever accountable for their OWN actions, how can we expect they would put these feelings onto their child? I just hope that the influence of Jax as well as the lack of Sonny in his life makes a difference in Morgan, as it SEEMS TO SO FAR have already done. Jax gives Morgan stability, all Sonny gave him was his DNA.

I was HAPPY that Alexis kept Kristina from Sonny because Sonny is NOT a good influence on ANY kids! I am saddened that they are making Sonny the victim as far as seeing Kristina yet then turn around and he is PROUD of Michael for killing Claudia! I think Alexis was the smart one here!


GREAT post, GEN! i completely agree with you!

#13   2009/11/06 12:07PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
genhospchat
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Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat: Sonny and Carly are to blame for how Michael is and what lead up to these events and AGAIN are protecting/covering up for him from something HE did. Since neither is ever accountable for their OWN actions, how can we expect they would put these feelings onto their child? I just hope that the influence of Jax as well as the lack of Sonny in his life makes a difference in Morgan, as it SEEMS TO SO FAR have already done. Jax gives Morgan stability, all Sonny gave him was his DNA.

I was HAPPY that Alexis kept Kristina from Sonny because Sonny is NOT a good influence on ANY kids! I am saddened that they are making Sonny the victim as far as seeing Kristina yet then turn around and he is PROUD of Michael for killing Claudia! I think Alexis was the smart one here!


GREAT post, GEN! i completely agree with you!


Thanks Katie! Btw, I came on looking for the Live Thread, what's going on??

#14   2009/11/06 12:11PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
katie28
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Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat: Sonny and Carly are to blame for how Michael is and what lead up to these events and AGAIN are protecting/covering up for him from something HE did. Since neither is ever accountable for their OWN actions, how can we expect they would put these feelings onto their child? I just hope that the influence of Jax as well as the lack of Sonny in his life makes a difference in Morgan, as it SEEMS TO SO FAR have already done. Jax gives Morgan stability, all Sonny gave him was his DNA.

I was HAPPY that Alexis kept Kristina from Sonny because Sonny is NOT a good influence on ANY kids! I am saddened that they are making Sonny the victim as far as seeing Kristina yet then turn around and he is PROUD of Michael for killing Claudia! I think Alexis was the smart one here!


GREAT post, GEN! i completely agree with you!


Thanks Katie! Btw, I came on looking for the Live Thread, what's going on??


oh sheesh. i didn't even realize what time it was. but i can't even watch. i'm at work... and sitting with the two boys that i take care of.... sneaking in some board time lol. shell wasn't around yesterday either, so i dunno who is available to do it today!

#15   2009/11/06 12:16PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
genhospchat
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Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat: Sonny and Carly are to blame for how Michael is and what lead up to these events and AGAIN are protecting/covering up for him from something HE did. Since neither is ever accountable for their OWN actions, how can we expect they would put these feelings onto their child? I just hope that the influence of Jax as well as the lack of Sonny in his life makes a difference in Morgan, as it SEEMS TO SO FAR have already done. Jax gives Morgan stability, all Sonny gave him was his DNA.

I was HAPPY that Alexis kept Kristina from Sonny because Sonny is NOT a good influence on ANY kids! I am saddened that they are making Sonny the victim as far as seeing Kristina yet then turn around and he is PROUD of Michael for killing Claudia! I think Alexis was the smart one here!


GREAT post, GEN! i completely agree with you!


Thanks Katie! Btw, I came on looking for the Live Thread, what's going on??


oh sheesh. i didn't even realize what time it was. but i can't even watch. i'm at work... and sitting with the two boys that i take care of.... sneaking in some board time lol. shell wasn't around yesterday either, so i dunno who is available to do it today!


Ok then I'll let it go this time I wish I could do it but I can't pay attention to the show and write about it at the same time (I tried in the past), kudos to you girls. I also always miss the first few minutes because I never pay attention to the time but catch up in the live thread.

#16   2009/11/06 12:18PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
katie28
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Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat: Sonny and Carly are to blame for how Michael is and what lead up to these events and AGAIN are protecting/covering up for him from something HE did. Since neither is ever accountable for their OWN actions, how can we expect they would put these feelings onto their child? I just hope that the influence of Jax as well as the lack of Sonny in his life makes a difference in Morgan, as it SEEMS TO SO FAR have already done. Jax gives Morgan stability, all Sonny gave him was his DNA.

I was HAPPY that Alexis kept Kristina from Sonny because Sonny is NOT a good influence on ANY kids! I am saddened that they are making Sonny the victim as far as seeing Kristina yet then turn around and he is PROUD of Michael for killing Claudia! I think Alexis was the smart one here!


GREAT post, GEN! i completely agree with you!


Thanks Katie! Btw, I came on looking for the Live Thread, what's going on??


oh sheesh. i didn't even realize what time it was. but i can't even watch. i'm at work... and sitting with the two boys that i take care of.... sneaking in some board time lol. shell wasn't around yesterday either, so i dunno who is available to do it today!


Ok then I'll let it go this time I wish I could do it but I can't pay attention to the show and write about it at the same time (I tried in the past), kudos to you girls. I also always miss the first few minutes because I never pay attention to the time but catch up in the live thread.


i was just trying to post the recaps from madcaps... but this stupid laptop won't copy and paste!!!!

#17   2009/11/06 12:22PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
pcnut
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Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat: Sonny and Carly are to blame for how Michael is and what lead up to these events and AGAIN are protecting/covering up for him from something HE did. Since neither is ever accountable for their OWN actions, how can we expect they would put these feelings onto their child? I just hope that the influence of Jax as well as the lack of Sonny in his life makes a difference in Morgan, as it SEEMS TO SO FAR have already done. Jax gives Morgan stability, all Sonny gave him was his DNA.

I was HAPPY that Alexis kept Kristina from Sonny because Sonny is NOT a good influence on ANY kids! I am saddened that they are making Sonny the victim as far as seeing Kristina yet then turn around and he is PROUD of Michael for killing Claudia! I think Alexis was the smart one here!


GREAT post, GEN! i completely agree with you!


Thanks Katie! Btw, I came on looking for the Live Thread, what's going on??


oh sheesh. i didn't even realize what time it was. but i can't even watch. i'm at work... and sitting with the two boys that i take care of.... sneaking in some board time lol. shell wasn't around yesterday either, so i dunno who is available to do it today!


Ok then I'll let it go this time I wish I could do it but I can't pay attention to the show and write about it at the same time (I tried in the past), kudos to you girls. I also always miss the first few minutes because I never pay attention to the time but catch up in the live thread.


i was just trying to post the recaps from madcaps... but this stupid laptop won't copy and paste!!!!


Hey guys, I'm around, but I don't know how to open the thread. I can try to recap if someone can open the thread.

#18   2009/11/06 06:06PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
cherrycola
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: Some of it? All of it directly leads back to him!! He put this in motion!! When he bought a gun played with it and left Kate for dead!! This(imo)is yet another time he did wrong and basically got off scott free!! and all they are teaching him is to be another Jason!! Im sorry but I want M's actions(including shooting Kate to come out) he needs to learn that NO ONE is above the law!! Not even the Corinthos'!! and all our actions have consequences whether they may be good or bad, we have to live with them!! IMO what they are creating in Micheal is a psychopath!!


The show has lost it's balance. We never see right overcome wrong anymore. It used to be that the main cast were basically decent people and the bad influences were special characters written to be there for a short time and then get their just due or to appear only now and again (like Faison and Helena) Now the criminals and evil-doers are the main characters.

But for Michael, I lay 99% of the blame directly on Sonny and Carly. He is the poster child for forced sterilization, and she's always had questionable ethics. (When she first got involved with Sonny, she had preciuos little common sense, either.)

#19   2009/11/06 07:03PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
marty12
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Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat:
Quote katie28:
Quote genhospchat: Sonny and Carly are to blame for how Michael is and what lead up to these events and AGAIN are protecting/covering up for him from something HE did. Since neither is ever accountable for their OWN actions, how can we expect they would put these feelings onto their child? I just hope that the influence of Jax as well as the lack of Sonny in his life makes a difference in Morgan, as it SEEMS TO SO FAR have already done. Jax gives Morgan stability, all Sonny gave him was his DNA.

I was HAPPY that Alexis kept Kristina from Sonny because Sonny is NOT a good influence on ANY kids! I am saddened that they are making Sonny the victim as far as seeing Kristina yet then turn around and he is PROUD of Michael for killing Claudia! I think Alexis was the smart one here!


GREAT post, GEN! i completely agree with you!


Thanks Katie! Btw, I came on looking for the Live Thread, what's going on??


oh sheesh. i didn't even realize what time it was. but i can't even watch. i'm at work... and sitting with the two boys that i take care of.... sneaking in some board time lol. shell wasn't around yesterday either, so i dunno who is available to do it today!


Ok then I'll let it go this time I wish I could do it but I can't pay attention to the show and write about it at the same time (I tried in the past), kudos to you girls. I also always miss the first few minutes because I never pay attention to the time but catch up in the live thread.


i was just trying to post the recaps from madcaps... but this stupid laptop won't copy and paste!!!!


Can someone please tell me how to find madcaps...I keep reading references to this, but don't know where to find themn. Thanks.

#20   2009/11/07 06:12AM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
bigtimesoapfan
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Just because he is a child doesn't absolve him of Blame. He set this in motion. Had he not boughtthe gun shot Kate and ran off. Sonny would not have thought Z was behind it he wouldn't have kidnaped Johnny, Claudia wouldn't have wanted revenge and it wouldn't have happened. So how is it not his fault!! Their comes a point in life when we need to stand up and take responsibility for his actions!! For Michael, imo it is well past that time!!
Yes his parents started this when Carly thought a mobster would make a better father than a drunk!(not to bright but anyway).
But M made the choice to buy that gun and imo this is all on him and im dying for someone to finally hold him accountable!! Im hoping Kate If she shows up soon will say it!!

#21   2009/11/07 06:31AM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
pegrckr
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: Just because he is a child doesn't absolve him of Blame. He set this in motion. Had he not boughtthe gun shot Kate and ran off. Sonny would not have thought Z was behind it he wouldn't have kidnaped Johnny, Claudia wouldn't have wanted revenge and it wouldn't have happened. So how is it not his fault!! Their comes a point in life when we need to stand up and take responsibility for his actions!! For Michael, imo it is well past that time!!
Yes his parents started this when Carly thought a mobster would make a better father than a drunk!(not to bright but anyway).
But M made the choice to buy that gun and imo this is all on him and im dying for someone to finally hold him accountable!! Im hoping Kate If she shows up soon will say it!!


I can agree with you on all of this actually. Michael has chosen both times his path. Yes to buying the gun that shot Kate and yes it was an accident, but I still feel he should have been held accountable for it. Yes to this time killing Claudia to protect Carly and his sister. He still needs to be made accountable for it. I think what bothers me most (I think it bothers Jason as well) is that he shows no remorse for what he did to Claudia. In fact it shows that he enjoyed it (if you want to call it that). He will keep doing what he's doing if he's not held accountable. While he isn't Sonny's blood, he is certainly Sonny's son in every other way.

#22   2009/11/07 11:37AM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
beana16
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I understand how the chain of events and choices Micheal made lead up to everything, and I think he should be held accountable for all of it. But really IMO it is all Sonny and Carly's fault for raising a child in an environment with violence where I kid would ever think it is an acceptable idea to buy or use a gun...

#23   2009/11/07 06:51PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
liz-fan
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To say Micheal has made mistake and screwed up... is hitting the nail on the head.

To say that Carly, Sonny, Claudia, Johnny, Jason, and the others involved don't share the blame.... is rediculous.

All should have made other choices and each had a choice to make.

So NO Mchael is not soldly at fault here....
He just shares in the blame...

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#24   2009/11/07 11:50PM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
2caliente
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Yes he made those choices but he was what 12 years old, seriously.I do agree that he needs to face the consequences but to place the SOLE responsibility on a child is ludicrous. It's too easy to place the blame on the CHILD and absolve parents of the wrong doing. If more parents do their jobs their kids wouldn't end up in these situations. Violence has been covered up, swept under rugs, rewarded and glorified in his life.That is his parent's doing. It's all he knows.Doesn't make it right, but it doesn't change the fact that no one in his life has a moral compass. By all means punish him and make him deal with the consequences. But make the adults in his life pay as well.

#25   2009/11/08 06:43AM
Re: I finally woke up and realized the truth. The accident was Micheals own fault!!
bigtimesoapfan
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Quote beana16: I understand how the chain of events and choices Micheal made lead up to everything, and I think he should be held accountable for all of it. But really IMO it is all Sonny and Carly's fault for raising a child in an environment with violence where I kid would ever think it is an acceptable idea to buy or use a gun...


True but he still had choices and he has repeatedly chosen to go the wrong way. imo I want someone to go over this with him does he even know that Sonny kidnapped Johnnny(because of him)? and because of that is why C put the hit on Sonny? I kinda wonder if he even has a clue since his parents want to act like he can do no wrong and good or bad they cover up his actions so nothing is ever his fault!!

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