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I agree with these two posts. I think he does need to protect Jake by having guards on his house, and Elizabeth and Cam as well because they are his family. And if he needs to protect him anyway, why not openly claim him, and be a part of his life? He is obviously capable of taking care of the rest of the children of Port Charles, why not his own. I don't necessarily think it is a matter of OOC, I just think it is bad writing.[/quote]

Hi J09! I am not being argumentative here but since, in your opinion, they are not writing Jason how he SHOULD be written, and how he has ALWAYS been written, that makes him OOC right? How do you blame the writing since the writers write for ALL the characters and wouldn't that just be an easy excuse for Jason's behaviour right now?

You can't take a character that has had MANY of the same characteristics and traits and thoughts for 15 years and then in the past year, BAM, he's a different person with different character traits (taking away the one's that have made him the popular character he has been and WHY he had fans of his own, outside of ANY pairing he's ever been in) and say, "oh it's just bad writing." IMO, I still believe there is a reason he is being seen in this light and I am hoping we see it soon onscreen because he has lost a lot of HIS fans (again has NOTHING to do with a pairing because Jason had HIS OWN fans LONG BEFORE this past year) because they have changed him THAT much.

Cincy, I haven't forgotten about your questions. I need to be in the "right mood" to bore everyone to death with my long, nauseating posts.[/quote]

Gen, I didn't find this argumentative. Like always, you have a bunch of good points. I see where you are coming from, but I think it is simply a POV thing. For me, I don't see OOC, or at least I don't label it as that. Maybe what we are are seeing are the same things, but for some reason I just don't like labeling it with that word. So I guess what you like to call OOC, I like to call bad writing for that specific character. Personally, I'm pretty happy with Jason right now. The only thing that is consistently driving me crazy is him not being with Jake. But I can't personally call that out of character, because there are too many other contributing factors, that all, in my opinion, stem from bad writing, and have to do with other characters too. OOC, in that situation is too specific for me. I could get into it if you want, but I don't think it would be a good idea. [/quote]

(I had to shorten the reply because it was getting WAY too long. Not sure what I did but I had to just bold the previous posts)

That's why I said I'm not sure if it's necessarily that he's written OOC or if they are writing him this way for a REASON. Since they haven't shown us the REASONS he's acting this way, for now all I have to go on is that he is OOC for other reasons (like you, I won't get into those either lol).

I would like to think that they are doing this for a GOOD reason because it would make for a good soapy storyline to have Jason Morgan change from who he was for 15 years to who he is since he walked away from his OWN CHILD because of the choices he made YEARS AGO by going to Sonny instead of figuring out who HE IS FIRST after his accident.

If they continue on with him in this manner with NO explanation to it, well I guess I will just have to go on the assumption that this irrational, act before thinking, doesn't care about others safety while doing "mob business," (which are other reasons besides Jake that show that Jason is not who he was) is who Jason is going to be now and just say "thanks for the 15 years of a great character and now you have TWO Sonny's and good luck with that!"

Oh I wanted to ask, J09, is that James Franco in your avi pic?

Btw, sorry to all for my bad grammar, spelling and paragraph formation in my long post. I just re-read it and realized all the mistakes I made and all the paragraphs I had in the wrong places. I wrote that at like 3 am so I wasn't exactly wide awake to do the best job of proofreading so I'm glad you guys got the gist of what I was saying.

IMO, there is nothing remotely out of character for Jason Morgan. He is the SAME Jason Morgan that he has always been. The only time that I felt that he could possibly be OOC, was when he had a drunken, ONS with Liz and then all of the WTF moments that followed with their "fling" (or whatever you call it). That whole storyline was poorly written and Jason would have never momentarily fallen in love with liz, especially when his heart still (and will always) belong to Sam. Jason threatening Sam's life over a son he gave up, was an OOC moment for Jason. The whole story of liz giving birth to Jason's baby (but we don't really know if Jake could be Lucky's baby!!!) and Jason supposedly "falling in love" with liz ONLY because she was having his baby, was a contrived storyline that the writers tried to push on us and it didn't work. It failed miserably. The best way to redeem that disasterous storyline is to make Jake the biological son of Lucky. Jason rightfully being back with Sam is what makes sense and there is NOTHING remotely OOC with that. They have always and will always love each other and them being together just makes sense. I think Jason and Sam's love story is just going to strenghten the next few monthes and we will all see just how much deeply Jason really does love Sam and that she is the ONLY woman for him.

Once again the debate of the character of Jason. And I really cant not resist posting my opinion.

Disclaimer--- really dont like Jason right now and also really, really tired while typing. so going to be bitter... so read at own risk.

Jason is a hitman. He threatens and kills people. That is what he does. He is not a good man.

His job is somehow suppose to be glorifyed while the police are made to look stupid. Jason is the villian, in reality, but is portrayed as a saint. To me this is just out of hand. Years back there was still the lines of yes the mobsters were bad wth redeeming qualities. Now it is all about poor Jason, and Sonny, they are caught in ths horrile life.

The life that they choose. I dont not feel bad for Jason in regard to Jake bc he chose to let his son go. As far as I am concerned Lucky is Jake's father bc Jason does not want his son. As was pointed out earlier in the thread Jason has the opportunity multiple times to have children in his life and he has not said no, but encouraged it almost.
But when it comes to have to his own son, Jake, it not worth the trouble to make adjustments in his life.

Yes, I know, noble Jason is giving up Jake for his own good bc remember Jason is all knowing, sacrifying htiman. That really at this point just seems like something Jason says when he doesnt want to have to change his life. Bc Jason, like Sonny, doesnt seem to change but expects the ppl around hin to change, to adapt to him and his chosen life.

Also, I created the thread, and I kinda wanted to stick the point of the mobsters, Claudia, Sonny, Jason, not who Jason's most epic love was/is.

Though I would like point out what happens with Jason and women are he falls deeply in love, they love him after they have been trained to be dependant on him, then they are hurt in an act of mob violence, Jason drops them, usually without consulting said woman, Jason then vows that his life is too dangerous for him to be involved with anyone... till the next damsel comes along. This IMO is the repeated pattern.

And well, since I really cant resist-

Liz- Jason treated her horrible. He basically offered her the world and took it away without really caring what she thought. Breaking promises... but isnt Jason suppose to be perfect and his words be golden?

Sam- Equal destruction of each other. He threatened to kill her, and after some interpreations of that, Jason meant it IMHO. He would have killed her, he was not just saying that to break her out of her downwhirl spiral. HE is a hitman. Sam was his enemy and she was a threat that was potentially hazardous.

And SERIOUSLY not starting anything but Sam let Jake be kidnapped, he could have been killed if that chick would have flipped, it was a potentially violatile situation. Yet she is forgiven? While Claudia didnt even know Michael was in the building and would not have wanted the shot to be fired is she did know, but she is made to be the devil incarnate?

I do like Sam so not slamming her character just comparsion of right/wrong according via Jason Morgan Morality Guide.

After rethinking about Jason, Claudia really does not seem that bad. Yes, the whole Michael thing was wrong, and threatening Dante is wrong, mainly bc I think he is fine. But beyond the distrubing obsession with Johnny, all Claudia has done is try keep her family safe, gain power and respect, and have a better future. Really what is wrong with that? Her methods were wrong but I do have to ponder that when a male character manipulates they are usually written in a rose colored light...

Double standard much????

So, Jason who the heck are you to judge Claudia? Or anyone?

I just wanted to jump in here and say that I have enjoyed reading the discussion in this thread. This is how message boards should be...a respectful exchange of opinion and ideas amongst all (well, almost all) of the posters.

Thank you all, you have given me some new insight to these characters.

While nothing excuses what Claudia did to Michael, it was an accident, unlike what Sam did Jake which was on purpose not once but twice. It makes me sick to watch Jason work so hard to prove that Claudia hurt Michael, while he is sleeping with the woman who watched an unhinged woman walk off with his infant son, a woman who hired men to point loaded guns at the infant. I guess Jason figures no harm no foul. Just remember Jason, Sam is not above hurting Jake to
get back at you so be real nice to her.

The fans are divided as to which woman is Jason’s true love Elizabeth or Samantha? It is neither, Jason’s true love is Sonny, I mean come on Sonny has treated Jason like horse dung for the past two and half years. And now Jason is once again working for, cleaning up behind Sonny and Company. So yes Sam is perfect for him, Sonny and Carly now have two for the price of one. Sam has no self respect; she’ll do anything to be with Jason. I glad that she has a job now so she’ll have something else to do other than sit in Jason’s penthouse and wait for him. She will not object to either Sonny or Carly’s repeated or continuous use of Jason. By the time she gets around to objecting, Jason will either be dead or he will be in prison for the rest of his life.

There is no way that Jason could have been a husband to Elizabeth and a father to the boys and clean up after Sonny and company. Liz and the boys would have been sitting ducks. TPTB now have Elizabeth agreeing to remarry Lucky but she is sleeping with Nic. All in an attempt to get people to think that Jason sleeping with Sam is ok. It’s not; Jason is not cheating on Elizabeth he is cheating on Jake. How will he explain to Jake why he’s with the woman would tried to hurt him not once but twice?

So Sonny is setting up Claudia, with this party where he will tell all of Port Charles she is the person who got Michael shot. I wonder will he tell all:

a. He slept with her without knowing who she was
b. He insulted her every chance he got once he found out who she was
c. He kidnapped her brother Johnny and denied him food and water.
d. He married her for power, because he shot Karpov.

I don’t think that Sonny will tell all

Then there is the fact that Jax knows about Claudia, will Carly be able to forgive Jax for not telling her. I mean after all she has been such a good wife to Jax.

a. She puts Jason before Jax
b. She puts Sonny before Jax
c. She slept with Sonny twice when she was supposed to be with Jax.

Jax needs to let her go and file for custody of his child, because around Sonny the kid will be a sitting duck. Or he or she could grow up like Michael and Kristina, two spoiled rotten kids, who never have to take responsibility for what they do. I mean Michael ran away after buying a gun and accidentally shooting Kate. His punishment was they took his video games away. Did Kristina get punished for causing the car accident that cost Claudia her baby?

Jason had better start eating his wheaties because Sonny’s teenaged children will lead him and Sam on a merry chase. So I guess TPTB think the fans want to watch another 10 plus years of Super Jase to the rescue.

Well Sonny may have not of handled the situation in the best way. He could of went to the police or confronted her alone in the hotel room when he gave the witch the necklace. But I think MB did a great job on acting in the scene. I was like oh damn I'm glad I'm not Clauds!!