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What happened to Michael was horrible. No doubt about it in anyway, shape or form. |
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Quote GHSince1999: What happened to Michael was horrible. No doubt about it in anyway, shape or form. How Claudia manipulated Michael was so wrong. No excuse for it. She used a vulnerable child for her gain. HOWEVER- like Claudia told Carly- she was protecting herself and Johnny. Sonny would have had them both killed. She was protecting herself and her family. That is the same justification that Sonny and Jason use for all of their actions. They have to protect their own-- same as Claudia. If Claudia knew that there was one chance in a million Michael would have been hurt-- the hit would have been delayed until no innocents would have been hurt. Yes, she hired Ian Devlin but he fired the gun. He is the guilty party for what happened to Michael. Bc since Sonny believes that he can do away with anyone- the same should thought should be able to be shared by his enemies. How many hits has Jason carried out? How many times as Sonny ordered for someone to be killed? Claudia, not innocent by any means and she has done things that made her character unlikable, should not have to take full responsibility for what happened to Michael. Sonny, Jason, and Carly, IMHO are just as much to blame bc they brought him into the life. Claudia didnt bring him into a life of violence- he was a tragedy waiting to happen. Claudia's brother was taken and beaten for something he didnt do. What would Sonny or Jason do if the person they loved most was in jeopardy like Johnny was? Try take out the enemy- like Claudia. Violence creates violence- which it seems is all that happens on GH Dont mean to sound preachy or anything. The double standard just really ticked me the wrong way today i actually agree with EVERYTHING that you said. i don't really like claudia, and i feel like she lied and manipulated everyone for toooooo long, but... i do agree about the double standard. and what would have jason done if it were him that inadvertently caused the same thing? sooo... great post. i agree... even though i will be glad when claudia is gone. lol |
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Quote GHSince1999: What happened to Michael was horrible. No doubt about it in anyway, shape or form. How Claudia manipulated Michael was so wrong. No excuse for it. She used a vulnerable child for her gain. HOWEVER- like Claudia told Carly- she was protecting herself and Johnny. Sonny would have had them both killed. She was protecting herself and her family. That is the same justification that Sonny and Jason use for all of their actions. They have to protect their own-- same as Claudia. If Claudia knew that there was one chance in a million Michael would have been hurt-- the hit would have been delayed until no innocents would have been hurt. Yes, she hired Ian Devlin but he fired the gun. He is the guilty party for what happened to Michael. Bc since Sonny believes that he can do away with anyone- the same should thought should be able to be shared by his enemies. How many hits has Jason carried out? How many times as Sonny ordered for someone to be killed? Claudia, not innocent by any means and she has done things that made her character unlikable, should not have to take full responsibility for what happened to Michael. Sonny, Jason, and Carly, IMHO are just as much to blame bc they brought him into the life. Claudia didnt bring him into a life of violence- he was a tragedy waiting to happen. Claudia's brother was taken and beaten for something he didnt do. What would Sonny or Jason do if the person they loved most was in jeopardy like Johnny was? Try take out the enemy- like Claudia. Violence creates violence- which it seems is all that happens on GH Dont mean to sound preachy or anything. The double standard just really ticked me the wrong way today Your totally right. There is a double standard. Jason almost shot Karpovs daughter in a warehouse himself. Mistakes are made. Like Kristina running Claudia off the road. According to the life they lead Michael getting shot should have been forgotten especially since Sonny knew retailiation would come his way after what he did to Johnny. With the Z family wanting to break away from Sonny, Claudia could have went against him. Not shown her loyalty in PR and he would probably have died there. Claudias sin should have been cancelled out especially with Michael walking around. |
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I have no sympathy for Sonny or Jason either. Claudia's schemes were certainly no worse than anything those two have done or are doing now. |
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Quote ghfanfare: I have no sympathy for Sonny or Jason either. Claudia's schemes were certainly no worse than anything those two have done or are doing now. However, I must say that in watching those riveting scenes today, IMHO it wasn't written sympathetically for any of the mobsters at all. Instead, I felt it showcased the fallout and tragedy of their violent lifestyle on innocent bystanders like Michael, Kristina, and mother-to-be Carly. Yes! And yes again. |
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I totally agree. I don't like the character of Claudia either or many of the other mob characters for that matter. Mac was right when he said the cycle of violence needs to end. Sonny and Jason have done much worse than Claudia. I think Sonny was right when he said he got the wife he deserved. If anyone was his match it was Claudia. Love SJB, MB, JT, etc. I will just be happy to see the mob take a backseat storyline wise. |
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Sonny's character needs to grow up some now, he's getting too repetitive, even tho he's a good actor. Let him mature some, writers, please. His kids are getting too old for a mobster only father. Kristina is a joke; not cute, just a brat. Michael needs to settle down & Sonny needs a strong woman, not the likes of the trashy Olivia with the horrible accent & trashy low necked dresses. Yuck. They don't have to be all maniacs. I miss the old GH when there was more humor with the Q's & other's. Oh, for the old days of Luke & gang, laughing & lots of humor. They lost that somehow & only show the mobster part of them & is getting old. Let the new/old Lucky lose that little nerdy piece of hair under his lip. Ooh, that's ugly. Come on, show some other characters on the show also & the good side of them some. This is getting too depressing & dark. |
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Face it, Claudia was nuttier than fruitcake! And what I cannot believe is all these people feeling sorry for her OR trying to justify what she did by saying Jason or Sonny would do the same thing! What? Yes, Claudia could not forsee Michael getting shot and yes, she sure did not mean it BUT everything she did after that was calculated and manipulative! I for one, feel no ounce of sympathy for Claudia! She was damaged long ago by her father and she is crazy as a loon! Thank goodness she's leaving! BTW, I loved the episodes on Thursday and Friday! I do not feel sympathy for Sonny or Jason but I do for Michael and Kristina! They're growing up in a world of violence! |
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Quote ghfanfare: I have no sympathy for Sonny or Jason either. Claudia's schemes were certainly no worse than anything those two have done or are doing now. However, I must say that in watching those riveting scenes today, IMHO it wasn't written sympathetically for any of the mobsters at all. Instead, I felt it showcased the fallout and tragedy of their violent lifestyle on innocent bystanders like Michael, Kristina, and mother-to-be Carly. Carly is no innocent, she is as much at fault as Sonny and Claudia are for what happened to Michael... she knew what kind of life Sonny lived and what dangers were involved and she chose for Michael (who is not Sonny bio son) to be his son exposing him to the same danger, and she exposes everyone to Jason who is as dangerous as Sonny, and Claudia, so she is as much at fault as anyone else is. |
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Honestly the show as a whole is getting better and much less dark. Also I LOVE LOVE LOVE JJ, sparce scruff and all...but I digress. I agree I have no sympathy for Sonny. He chose to live his life this way and he knows the rules of the game.I don't fault Claudia for the hit, that's the way the mob works--it was her actions afterward that I did not like. Even so, this whole thing differently but Sonny |
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Quote switzerland: Face it, Claudia was nuttier than fruitcake! And what I cannot believe is all these people feeling sorry for her OR trying to justify what she did by saying Jason or Sonny would do the same thing! What? Yes, Claudia could not forsee Michael getting shot and yes, she sure did not mean it BUT everything she did after that was calculated and manipulative! I for one, feel no ounce of sympathy for Claudia! She was damaged long ago by her father and she is crazy as a loon! Thank goodness she's leaving! BTW, I loved the episodes on Thursday and Friday! I do not feel sympathy for Sonny or Jason but I do for Michael and Kristina! They're growing up in a world of violence! i agree totally. but i also agree both families are pretty messed up. so to pick one over the other is kinda ridiculous. they were both only protecting their own. and to make one better than the other is simply onesided. i feel sad for both.sides..yes claudia is a lunatic but sonny isnt far behind her |
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Quote LovingFan: Quote ghfanfare: I have no sympathy for Sonny or Jason either. Claudia's schemes were certainly no worse than anything those two have done or are doing now. However, I must say that in watching those riveting scenes today, IMHO it wasn't written sympathetically for any of the mobsters at all. Instead, I felt it showcased the fallout and tragedy of their violent lifestyle on innocent bystanders like Michael, Kristina, and mother-to-be Carly. Carly is no innocent, she is as much at fault as Sonny and Claudia are for what happened to Michael... she knew what kind of life Sonny lived and what dangers were involved and she chose for Michael (who is not Sonny bio son) to be his son exposing him to the same danger, and she exposes everyone to Jason who is as dangerous as Sonny, and Claudia, so she is as much at fault as anyone else is. That is true about Carly. She has been part of it, no doubt. However, the unborn child is innocent. So let me rephrase that... |
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Quote ghfanfare: Quote LovingFan: Quote ghfanfare: I have no sympathy for Sonny or Jason either. Claudia's schemes were certainly no worse than anything those two have done or are doing now. However, I must say that in watching those riveting scenes today, IMHO it wasn't written sympathetically for any of the mobsters at all. Instead, I felt it showcased the fallout and tragedy of their violent lifestyle on innocent bystanders like Michael, Kristina, and mother-to-be Carly. Carly is no innocent, she is as much at fault as Sonny and Claudia are for what happened to Michael... she knew what kind of life Sonny lived and what dangers were involved and she chose for Michael (who is not Sonny bio son) to be his son exposing him to the same danger, and she exposes everyone to Jason who is as dangerous as Sonny, and Claudia, so she is as much at fault as anyone else is. That is true about Carly. She has been part of it, no doubt. However, the unborn child is innocent. So let me rephrase that... I completely agree, the baby is an innocent, and Carly is so reckless with her child's life. Come on now, there was no real reason for her to be there but she was anyways, she caused the car accident, she is to balm for anything happening to that baby... Claudia is a lunatic, but comeone now, look at her father, anyone would be after dealing with THAT all your life, what is Carly's excuse, or even Sonny's... I really do like Claudia much more than Carly. |
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Quote missnatural01: I totally agree. I don't like the character of Claudia either or many of the other mob characters for that matter. Mac was right when he said the cycle of violence needs to end. Sonny and Jason have done much worse than Claudia. I think Sonny was right when he said he got the wife he deserved. If anyone was his match it was Claudia. Love SJB, MB, JT, etc. I will just be happy to see the mob take a backseat storyline wise. I was wondering if Mac's words were a sign of things to come as well. Maybe tptb are actually planning to wrap up these stories and backburner the mob for a while?! It would be a nice change. Seems like quite a few viewers are ready for that. |
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The fact that Morgan and Molly were running around the alleys BY THEMSELVES, getting themselves involved in rescuing Johnny, is enough to tell me that SOMETHING needs to be done for these kids and that this mob world that they are being shown is NOT how they should be raised. |
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